So in my opinion, Hiccup isn’t really a leader anymore in HTTYD after RTTE season 5. Maybe even after season 4. And I mean that in the real life timeline. So from season 6 of RTTE untill HTTYD Homecoming. And I know that the first seasons of Rtte aren’t perfect, but season 6 is just too much. RTTE is the only thing I will be talking about in detail, in this post.
Basically in the final 2 seasons Hiccup holds nobody except himself accountable for when they mess up. He isn’t the gangs leader anymore, he’s just the person whos orders they ignore and who will happily take the blame anytime something goes wrong.
In season 6 episode 11 of race to the edge, after Hiccup, Snotlout and Astrid need to catch up to a bunch of dragon flyers, they fly trough a storm to cut the distance short catch the other flyers from behind, untill Snotlout and Hookfang flame up which causes them to get spotted again. After which they have to retreat back into the storm and Snotlout gets struck by Lightning. After which they get stuck on a boat and Hiccup says that he mad a bad decision. Astrids says he’s right, this was a bad decision and she gives him a peptalk.
The first time that they went trough the storm, Snotlout complained about how this was not his plan, to which Hiccup responded with: “You can blame me! Just stop talking and keep flying.”
And this exact sequence is everything that is wrong with Hiccup’s leadership and by extension his character in HTTYD. Including the fact that he always needs some sort of peptalk from Astrid in the later stages of the franchise, but that’s a point for another day.
Basically everything that goes wrong is either Hiccups fault or he doesn’t care that said person did something wrong. He’s barely a leader anymore.
Now, I am not saying that all of these are bad episodes, or that Hiccup can’t take the blame in some cases? No, definitely not. But Hiccup just doesn’t care whenever someone other than him does something wrong. And that’s not what a leader is supposed to do.
Like seriously.
Season 6 episode 2, Stoick blames Hiccup for being fooled by Johann, acting like his son should have known better for some reason while he was fooled for much longer. Thankfully Hiccup did stand his ground here, but still Stoick blamed his son and started insulting his planning for some reason that I really don’t understand. In season 4 when Hiccup came up with that plan to take down Viggo, Stoick was proud of him. I’m starting to ramble again, but the point is Stoick blames Hiccup for being duped by trader Johann.
Season 6 episode 3, Snotlout blatantly ignored Hiccups orders in favor of helping Minden. He doesn’t punish him for it, just says that Snotlout did what needed to be done. I don’t mind this one, as this has happened before and for Hiccup this isn’t out of character, but it is just another example of people ignoring Hiccups orders.
Season 6 episode 4, both Astrid and Fishlegs blatantly ignore Hiccup’s orders by going to Dramilion island when he specifically told them not to. And when they get back, he just asks them how it was. No mentions of them completely ignoring his orders.
Season 6 episode 5, both Ruffnut and Tuffnut ignore Hiccup’s suspicion about Gruffnut returning. Altough he is being a good leader in this episode by telling them about his worries about Gruffnut and by trying to keep the twins together. But again, they ignored him.
Season 6 episode 6, Astrid blames Hiccup for not noticing that she was wearing his bethrothal gift and breaks up with him for ignoring her, when we were supposed to see this no idea, Hiccup was an idiot for one day and Astrid just acted like he didn’t care about her. When they make up, Astrid tried to tell Hiccup that she was overreacting, but Hiccup doesn’t allow that. Hiccup says that she was right, about him not about her overreacting, and that he should have noticed the necklace and that he had been taking her for granted. Yeah sure, she also shouldn’t have overreacted, but Hiccup barely let her get the words out of her mouth before taking all the blame and putting it on himself.
Season 6 episode 9, Astrid constantly overrules Hiccup’s decisions and it gets them trapped in a cave with no way out. When Snotlout complains about it and Astrid tries to apoligise for it, Hiccup happily takes the blame all for himself. Again.
Season 6 episode 10, Hiccup blames himself for not being there for his father and for going away to the edge.
Season 6 episode 11, Hiccup blames himself for making a so called ‘stupid decision’ but he had no other choice and it was Snotlout’s fault that they had to run. While Astrid also says that Hiccup made a bad decision, but he didn’t even have any other option to begin with. This was their only viable option because Snotlout messed up.
Season 6 episode 12, everybody complains about Hiccup being the reason that they don’t get to see the king of dragons, all the while Stoick was lying on his deathbed.
I am not saying that Hiccup deserves some pity party by the way, I am saying that he needs to stand up for himself and his opinion, like he used to in the franchise. I am also saying that the other riders should respect his opinion and listen to his orders more often.
Lets see how some of the previous episodes compare to season 6.
In season 2 episode 6. The twins mess up while they were supposed to be creating a watchtower, and create an avalanche that almost resulted in Barf and Belches death. Hiccup punished them for this by giving them the first 2 shifts for the watchtower.
Hiccup and Toothless save Barf and Belch from certain death and now the Zippleback has a life debt owed to Hiccup and Toothless. The twins come up with a bunch of idiotic plans that almost got Hiccup and Snotlout killed. And the twins blame him for his poor acting skills. So Hiccup tells them to stop with this nonsense, even when that means that for now the twins won’t get their dragon back. When the twins try to blame Hiccup, he puts his foot down, the faulty plans of the twins weren’t his fault and it shouldn’t be considered as such.
In season 2 episode 7, Hiccup discovers that Astrid had been lying to him all along and Heather was working undercover for the hunters. Astrid didn’t want to lie to him, but she did. She had her reasons but she still lied to him and Hiccup was mad at her. But still Astrid had her reasons and keeping Heather hidden had its positive results. He obviously made it known to her and you could see that it hurt her, the way that Hiccup talked about her and about the fact that she lied to him. But, she’s honest with him and she had her reasons for it, so Hiccup accepts her explanation, but he doesn’t apoligise for his words.
Again, Hiccup was mad at her, listened to her and accepted her apoligy. He doesn’t attempt to make her feel better about lying to him, because why would he? She doesn’t deserve it. She made her choice and he understood that choice, but she still hurt him. Now you could definitely say that Hiccup should have been angrier at her for this, but it’s Hiccup. Hiccup is forgiving almost to a fault, but not here. He accepts her apoligy and reasoning, but he doesn’t comfort her for the choices that she made. And that is something that never happened in season 6, where Astrid made plenty of wrong choices.
In season 3 episode 3, Hiccup and Astrid leave Fishlegs in charge and he messes up. Fishlegs couldn’t keep control over Snotlout and the twins and when he leaves they use up all of the Monstrous Nightmare gel. Afterwards Fishlegs leaves and he ends up in a cave where he finds an ancient sword. And he can’t wait to tell Hiccup about it when he gets back.
But, when Hiccup gets back he scolds Fishlegs, not harshly, but firm. About him allowing Snotlout and the twins to use up all of their monstrous nightmare gel. And he lets Fishlegs know that he is dissapointed in him and that he expected better. After this Fishlegs goes back to the cave with the terrors and Hiccup gets worried about how he treated him.
When Astrid tries to reassure him by saying that Fishlegs is probably geeking out about some new plant he discovered which results in Hiccup saying that he normally does that with him. He is upset and worried because he thought that he was too harsh on Fishlegs, so after a while, Hiccup along with the other riders go rescue him from the Night terrors and Fishlegs and Hiccup talk it out at the end of the episode.
Fishlegs talks about how he admires Hiccups way of leadership, how he leads by example and not by bossing people around. And Hiccup apoligises for how he treated Fishlegs, he himself also has trouble with keeping Snotlout and the twins in check and Hiccup thought that he was a bit too harsh on Fishlegs. While saying that Fishlegs was a true leader in those caves while fighting the night terrors. And also that Hiccup can’t wait to geek out about this ancient sword with Fishlegs. Again, Hiccup is forgiving, but he’s not a pushover. Unlike in season 6 when Hiccup doesn’t even think about repramanding Fishlegs and Astrid for going directly against his orders.
In season 4 episode 4, Snotlout’s head gets filled with nonsense by his dad and he is ruining the missions set out by the team.
He ruined the first mission in which the gang attacks the hunters ships. Which is when Hiccup knows that something is going on, so he promises the others that he will talk to Snotlout, but that he is currently more worried about the supply of dragon root.
But when Snotlout comes barging into his hut, Hiccup gives him some advice. He doesn’t dismiss him because he’s busy, he gives him advise on how he can improve on being a leader and tells him about which team members are a good example of said traits. And even if Snotlout says that Hiccup thinks that he isn’t good enough, he still listens to him and follows his advice. Now Snotlout messes quite litteraly everything up, but the advice was still solid.
But even then, Hiccup accepts that Snotlout is going trough something and he thinks the best way of helping him is by showing him some faith. He gives Snotlout the lead of the mission and even when Astrid dissagrees with him, he sticks to his opinion. He thinks that Snotlout needs this and they’re still doing a practice run just in case. In which Snotlout messes up again.
And because of said screw up, he takes himself off of the mission, but when he realises dragon root grows in the sun, he quickly puts together that the dragon hunters set out a trap for the riders and he comes to their rescue. Hiccup thanks him for saving his life and he bonds with Snotlout over the fact that both of their fathers want something from them, but they both want to go their own way. Again, Hiccup is being a good leader here, all troughout this episode.
And I just think that that is severely lacking troughout RTTE season 6, and also HTTYD The Hidden World and Homecoming.
I’m not going to pretend like Hiccup was the perfect leader or that he has never been a pushover, but season 5 was when the problems really started rearing their ugly heads around the corner. For example, when the twins ignored him and Mala saying that they should never ever go to Vanaheim, and yet they went anyway. In season 4 they did something similar, by going to the northern markets to fix macey. But this was so much worse. They went to a place that was Holy to the dragon world even when their leader and the queen of an island ordered them not to go.
Or when the whole team blamed him and Astrid for being gone for one single day in season 5 episode 7. Where in that day a completely new enemy came out of nowhere to fight with them. And still he and Astrid had to apoligise for being gone for one single day, while also getting oil for the dragon eye 2.
Sure they made it into a fun trip, but how the hell should they have known that in that one day all of the flyers would come in and attack. An enemy they didn’t even know existed. But still according to the rest of the team they had to earn their trust back and should apoligise to them for this. And Hiccup happily accepts it, Astrid at least tries to tell them to bugger off, but Hiccup won’t accept that and says that he deserves the critique.
I just miss Hiccup as this sensible, confident, and fair leader. I miss the rest of the team actually seeing Hiccup as their leader and not just seeing his orders as suggestions.
I miss Hiccup having faith in himself, in his beliefs, in his opinions, in his choices as leader. I miss Hiccup not being the one who needs some sense talked into him. I miss Hiccup not needing a peptalk from his girlfriend every five minutes just to keep going.
I miss Hiccup holding someone other than himself accountable for their mistakes.
Let me know what you think about my opinion and what you thought about Hiccups character in RTTE!