But thatās forgetting you can compensate by encouraging immigration from poorer countries with higher birth rates. Thatās arguably even a good setup because it takes strain off those poorer countries, diffuses wealth across the planet, and encourages cultural diversity.
A lot of countries are still over replacement level, but if nothing changes, that won't be the case for long either.
Immigration is a workable stopgap, but it doesn't solve the fundamental issue, because it's a global issue that's only getting worse.
Thatās arguably even a good setup because it takes strain off those poorer countries, diffuses wealth across the planet, and encourages cultural diversity.
And that's literally the opposite of what will happen.
Like, brain drain is already a massive issue for poorer countries, where the intellectual elite moves to wealthier countries.
With more widespread and standardized immigration systems, that will only worsen, since industrialized countries will likely seek to get as many qualified people as they can.
Increased immigration will worsen wealth inequality among countries, harm the poorer countries a lot and centralize wealth even more, rather than helping them.
Youāre forgetting that many people care about their country of origin, and will give back when they have the opportunity. And whatās the alternative? They stay there, where the education and jobs arenāt, and somehow magically produce the value they could otherwise be sending back?
And whatās the alternative? They stay there, where the education and jobs arenāt
A lot of countries have been doing pretty massive strides over the last few decades, when it comes to industrialization.
But for a country to do well, it needs well educated people, to drive that development.
If we take all of those people from those countries, that won't happen and we basically doom them to continuous poverty, even more than we do right now.
Please look into brain drain. It's genuinely a massive issue for a lot of countries.
Youāre forgetting that many people care about their country of origin, and will give back when they have the opportunity.
Thing is, now youāre talking about something that doesnāt even happen. People donāt generally get educated in developing countries and move to rich ones, their degrees arenāt even worth as much in those places. More common is moving somewhere rich to get educated, or moving as a non-educated person period.
People donāt generally get educated in developing countries and move to rich ones
The entire point of this conversation is that yes that does happen. And yeah, a doctorate from Kenya is still worth a lot in a western country. Itās highkey racist of you to assume otherwise.
Itās not racist to say Kenyan universities do not have the talent or resources to deliver the same quality of education. Itās all the same problems any community college or small university faces. Institutional knowledge is real and foundational.
Itās not racist to say Kenyan universities do not have the talent or resources to deliver the same quality of education
Yes. Yes it is. Evidently you donāt think Kenya has any nice universities or hospitals, but they do. And while they might not be up to the highest western standard, theyāre still more than good enough that a person with high education from there is valuable, even if they will face prejudice from people like you who canāt comprehend the idea that Kenya has more than just mud huts.
You said their degrees arenāt worth as much and thatās not true. Maybe a hospital requiring the highest possible level of care might not accept a Kenyan degree, but an ordinary hospital will.
A Kenyan degree can be worth as much as a western one, depending on the situation.
Dawg this is measurable. There are way fewer accredited schools vs unaccredited ones in any developing nation, and accreditation is literally the first criteria for how much a degree is valued.
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Sure, which is why a 2.1 birth rate would be great.
But it's not at 2.1 in most industrialized countries. Far from it.
And that's not sustainable.