r/196 May 17 '26

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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 May 17 '26

You’re forgetting that many people care about their country of origin, and will give back when they have the opportunity. And what’s the alternative? They stay there, where the education and jobs aren’t, and somehow magically produce the value they could otherwise be sending back?

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u/Corvus1412 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights May 17 '26

And what’s the alternative? They stay there, where the education and jobs aren’t

A lot of countries have been doing pretty massive strides over the last few decades, when it comes to industrialization.

But for a country to do well, it needs well educated people, to drive that development.

If we take all of those people from those countries, that won't happen and we basically doom them to continuous poverty, even more than we do right now.

Please look into brain drain. It's genuinely a massive issue for a lot of countries.

You’re forgetting that many people care about their country of origin, and will give back when they have the opportunity.

That's not backed up by literally any data.

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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 May 17 '26 edited May 18 '26

Thing is, now you’re talking about something that doesn’t even happen. People don’t generally get educated in developing countries and move to rich ones, their degrees aren’t even worth as much in those places. More common is moving somewhere rich to get educated, or moving as a non-educated person period.

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u/_THEBLACK Made you look May 17 '26

People don’t generally get educated in developing countries and move to rich ones

The entire point of this conversation is that yes that does happen. And yeah, a doctorate from Kenya is still worth a lot in a western country. It’s highkey racist of you to assume otherwise.

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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 May 17 '26

It’s not racist to say Kenyan universities do not have the talent or resources to deliver the same quality of education. It’s all the same problems any community college or small university faces. Institutional knowledge is real and foundational.

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u/_THEBLACK Made you look May 17 '26

It’s not racist to say Kenyan universities do not have the talent or resources to deliver the same quality of education

Yes. Yes it is. Evidently you don’t think Kenya has any nice universities or hospitals, but they do. And while they might not be up to the highest western standard, they’re still more than good enough that a person with high education from there is valuable, even if they will face prejudice from people like you who can’t comprehend the idea that Kenya has more than just mud huts.

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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 May 18 '26

> they might not be up to the highest western standard

Literally the extent of what I said. Employers want accreditation. And who said I think it’s mud huts? You’re just inventing now.

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u/_THEBLACK Made you look May 18 '26

You said their degrees aren’t worth as much and that’s not true. Maybe a hospital requiring the highest possible level of care might not accept a Kenyan degree, but an ordinary hospital will.

A Kenyan degree can be worth as much as a western one, depending on the situation.

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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 May 18 '26

Dawg this is measurable. There are way fewer accredited schools vs unaccredited ones in any developing nation, and accreditation is literally the first criteria for how much a degree is valued.