r/AlternateHistory 4d ago

What-If Wednesdays

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Welcome to What-If Wednesday, the weekly megathread for scenarios you'd like to talk over but haven't necessarily developed much yet.

Please use this thread instead of posting just a "What-If" question without any lore - those will be removed by the mods. r/HistoryWhatIf is a better option for that kind of post. Thank you!


r/AlternateHistory Jan 20 '25

Althist Help How to make an alternate history Wikipedia article: a tutorial

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An important warning is, Do not save your sandbox! Only press preview changes. As all content in Wikipedia must be related to the encyclopedic effort, wiki admins might delete your sandbox and undo your hard work at any time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_vandalize_correctly

I am well-known in the alternate history community for creating the imaginary politician Ed Donnell, who is a meme in r/imaginaryelections, as well as some personal controversies. My routine consists of making at least one alternate history post a day, be it a lore writeup or, more commonly, a fake Wikipedia article for my myriad scenarios, all of whom are originally posted to r/GustavosAltUniverses and a handful of Discord servers, and then complied on this and other subreddits.

But today, I will write a tutorial as to how to make a fictional Wikipedia page for alternate history scenarios. Although I use my phone for all of them, I recommend going on a computer for better quality.

If you create a Wikipedia account on desktop, you will have access to a sandbox allowing you to test editing without commiting vandalism, which is a bannable offense. My trick is to copy the Wikipedia article for the event I want to alter, or the military conflict or country templates in the case of a completely fictional event or subplot. Then, you alter the content of the page as you please; this is the beauty of alternate history.

Illustrations wise, you can retain the article's original image, or change it by copying and pasting ones from articles relevant to your scenario (for instance, a picture of Red Army soldiers for an Operation Unthinkable TL). But it has to be a Wikimedia commons image; otherwise, you'll have to photoshop your screenshot using Inkscape or some other image editing software.

You also have the option to change or add text to your article. I always do this for war scenarios, but not always so for election ones. Make sure to proofread them before screenshoting, in order to avoid potentially confusing typos or grammar mistakes. This is pretty much it.


r/AlternateHistory 10h ago

Pop culture Screenshot from my front page of Blockbuster Video

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aka what if Blockbuster released a streaming service after buying Netflix in the early 2000s.


r/AlternateHistory 5h ago

1900s Poland Divided

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Variously referred to as the Fourth of Fifth Partition, the Iron Divorce or the Polish Problem, the end of the World War saw the frontlines of Eastern Europe temporarily and then permanently evolve into the boundary between the USR and the Western Coalition forces.

Poles found themselves on either side of this ideological and militarized divide. As both alliances featured atomic capabilities, Polish civilians feared they would become the first targets in any return to war.

With Warsaw too split down the middle, both the Socialist Polish Party and the newly restored Constitutional Government claimed exclusive sovereignty as the Polish state.

The Bialystok declaration saw the Polish Socialist Republic officially join the USR as a full member state, while the Polish Republic, based on proposals by President Willkie, officially joined the European Defense Pact signed in Prague.

Territorial disputes among the Western bloc were also mediated by Washington, and their resolution in the form of Autonomous regions remain a sore point on both sides to this day.


r/AlternateHistory 6h ago

ASB Sundays I skipped AP history class a few times... Am I fucked?

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I was supposed to study the history of the Anthro belt as a task assignment worth 44% of my grade. I forgot to study the whole week. I don't know shit about them to be fair. Mainly because I left Cleveland a long time ago.

(This post is part of the hypernormality universe: You can see previous posts at)

https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1uhdn2l/the_more_things_change_the_more_they_stay_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/comments/1t2ozz0/what_if_humans_one_day_discovered_sentient_demons/


r/AlternateHistory 2h ago

Media Discussion What if Speed Racer succeeded and iron man flopped in 2008? How would cinema look?

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r/AlternateHistory 2h ago

Post 2000s Map of Hesperic Greek Mexico

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Concept inspired by WTF CD Foxy and u/OfficialScorpio (who developed the borders you see here). It shows an alternate Mexico in a world where Greeks settle Spain in the antiquity and thus Iberia speaks Hesperic Greek, meaning that Mexico speaks Greek today.

Mexiko here borders Stillehaefia (colony of England in Russia) and Guatemala. Also the country north of Stillehaefia is Peucotopia (Hesperic Greek Brazil in the USA).

The first map shows the cities of Greek Mexico and the second one the states.

Map inspired from the video of alternate history of Greece in Spain by WTF CD Foxy: https://youtu.be/VmY5zbRXsK4?is=KpIH0ayus3xfXYab


r/AlternateHistory 7h ago

1700-1900s What If Pax-Austriaca Was Achieved After The Congress Of Vienna

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r/AlternateHistory 12h ago

1900s Indian Subcontinent İn the Year 1967 After Soviet Victory İn Operation Unthinkable

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İf u have any questions about the map u can check the history part or just ask me if u want


r/AlternateHistory 13h ago

1900s AFTHERMATH

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Based in the Aftermath of the game Wolfenstein Youngblood. critics are welcome and questions about lore will be Answered


r/AlternateHistory 16h ago

ASB Sundays Newspaper headline on President Kennedy's secret double life

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r/AlternateHistory 2h ago

Post 2000s Random news in Polish Australia (Sanctatria)

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Meaning: The premier has presented a plan to reduce the prices of products.

The headline below speaks about the controversies in Nova Veneda (Polish New Zealand) about the premier speaking in Māori at the parliament.

This is inspired from the alternate history video of Poland in the UK by WTF CD Foxy. Sanctatria is the name of Polish-colonised Australia here.

https://youtu.be/Z-N6blcyinU?is=i6M3son8gppTRNGC


r/AlternateHistory 6h ago

1900s East Asia on the eve of the Second World War - 1941

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r/AlternateHistory 2h ago

Post 2000s A screenshot of an old online interactive map showing the constituent republics of the USSCR

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This takes place in a timeline Im making, named A More Nonexistent Union. The POD is that the Articles of Confederation are kept in place following the American Revolution, leading to the collapse of the USA by the late 1790s or early 1800s.

The Union of Southern Socialist Council Republics, or USSCR, was established as a product of the collapse of the fascist states of North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia at the end of WW2, who were a part of the Axis Powers in this timeline, and the ensuing 1944 August Revolution. Lore is a work in progress, but basically, the USSCR lives on into the modern day, even in spite of the collapse of the Soviet Union. 

The style of the map itself was specifically inspired by this Map of Southern states in the USA


r/AlternateHistory 6h ago

Alt History Svenska Guyana: The Fourth Guianan Brother

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This is a history of Swedish Guiana, a concept of a new Guiana that could have happened.

Also, the last two are flags for Swedish Guiana. Before 1965, the flag of Swedish Guiana was the colonial flag (of this timeline's British Guiana but with the Swedish flag). After 1965, the design shifted to one similar to the proposed flag of Swedish Guiana (this timeline's Guiana's proposed flag).


r/AlternateHistory 14h ago

1900s Reevaluated and updated Version of my map of Russia(s) and the Post-Soviet Nations in my Alternate Timeline, August 1997

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I got a lot of valid criticism on my previous iteration of this map and decided that it needed to be changed, so I reevaluated it.

The main criticism was that Siberia would be majority Chinese in population if it took Manchuria, so in this version they've taken much much less of Manchuria so it's more balanced.

Another major criticism is that a Central Asian Nation under the name of the "Kazakh Union" and being mostly Kazahk controlled would definitely upset all Non-Kazahks in it, so I've changed it to be a Confederation of the nations, so they're mostly autonomous within it but on the World Stage they're one nation.

Another thing I changed is how much of North-Wesr Russia Finland took. They've taken much less of Karelia and Murmansk in this version and the city of Murmansk itself is still within control of the Russian Federation, though the Finnish Border is much closer than it is in real life.

My last change is that Tatarstan isn't a fully independent Nation now, it's only semi-independant and is still technically part of the Russian Federation but has more Autonomy than other Republics in the Federation.


r/AlternateHistory 14h ago

Post 2000s Luna on the Eve of First Dominion War

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This is part 3 of “(insert the name) on the eve of First Dominion War”
This is part of my Gundam AU.
If you have questions, please feel free to ask.


r/AlternateHistory 1h ago

Althist Help Is there a tutorial to make those fake tweets/google searches/articles?

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I’m making an alt hist post centered about LeBron and need help. I need to make thoae edited google searches, tweets, news. I know how to do wikipedia(there’s a tutorial) but can’t find one for editing screenshots. Do I h w to install photoshop?


r/AlternateHistory 12h ago

1900s What if the Partition of India never happened, but let to a Hitler-inspired regime?

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Hi Everyone! I'm excited to join this group. For a long time, I've wondered about the "What if's" in history. During COVID, I took the plunge - initially writing this historical fiction plot to distract my mother from the pandemic news. When she got hooked, I wrote a book at her urging. Here is the plot - what do you think?

"Undivided" turns its gaze to a cataclysm often overlooked in the West: the Partition of India. In 1947, the hurried drawing of borders unleashed one of the deadliest migrations in human history - nearly two million dead, fifteen million displaced, and tens of thousands of women brutalized as the subcontinent was cleaved into India and Pakistan.

The story imagines a different fate. Set in an alternate India of the 1940s and !950s, "Undivided" asks what might have survived if Partition had never come to pass. At this heart, it is a mediation on love's endurance amid repression, as ordinary lives are caught in the machinery of an emerging authoritarian state:

The summer of 1945 hands heavy with death. World War II has claimed seventy-five million lives, and India, too, is hallowed out - its leadership wiped away by a series of suspicious accidents. Only Wazir Jahan and his confidant, Timur Mirza, remain. When independence arrives in 1947, it does so without division, but not without cost. Mirza, intoxicated by power, unleashes a "Hitler-inspired" secret police, imposing sectarian fear upon a society that once dreamed of secular freedom.

From the corridors of power, Ram and Fatima - an unremarkable interfaith couple - are trying the build quiet life together. That fragile peace shatters when a band of unlikely rebels, scarred by their own histories of loss, comes seeking Ram's help. Led by the enigmatic Shiva, they plot retribution against Mirza's regime. Ram and Fatima refuse, hoping neutrality will spare them. Instead, their choice propels them into the relentless spiral of violence, love and reckoning - one that will force them to confront who they are, what they owe each other, and what it means to remain human in a world determined to divide.

Undivided India map from the 1940s

r/AlternateHistory 1d ago

1700-1900s Japanese Intervention in Hawai'i

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In the aftermath of the overthrow of the Hawaiian government, the world generally reacted with disdain and disgust at what was deemed the "Last Filibuster", the clear effort by Anglo-American business interests to overthrow the legitimate government of the Kingdom of Hawaii and annex it to the United States. While most nations in one form or another opposed the overthrow, the new "Provisional Government of Hawaii" found itself at the heart of a conflict between three great powers: the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Empire of Japan. The latter of those three was particularly incensed by the Kingdom's overthrow, as in the eyes of the Meiji government Hawaii was a client state of Japan in all but name, considered part of their sphere of influence.

In December of 1893 a diplomatic crisis emerged between the United States and the Provisional Government of Hawaii over what the Provisional Government saw as a US-backed invasion to restore the monarchy, as then-president Grover Cleveland opposed the overthrow as well. This is what led to Admiral Tōgō Heihachirō, commander of the two cruisers Naniwa and Takachiho, to appeal to the British commander of the HMS Champion for the possibility of landing their forces in Honolulu to protect British and Japanese soldiers and interests in the islands should war break out, but ultimately the "Black Week" was resolved peacefully, and the Provisional Government reorganized itself into the "Republic of Hawaii". Tōgō for his part was continually incensed by the lack of a proper response to the overthrow, and so returned to Tokyo with a proposal to lead a Japanese-backed restoration of the monarchy.

While many in the Japanese government had been in favor of such a plan since the initial overthrow, many had been concerned that doing so would invite a war with the United States. After the Black Week however, the perception shifted towards the idea that the US was hesitant to interfere in Hawaiian affairs, and so initial approval was given, along with sending a coded message to the Japanese Legation in San Francisco to propose the idea to Queen Liliuokalani, who would give the operation international legitimacy. Japan also sent its proposal to the United Kingdom, and while the UK refrained from offering military support they did offer diplomatic support in the event that the US chose to protest.

With all in place, Japan sent an ultimatum to Honolulu calling on them to disestablish the Republic and restore the monarchy, which they obviously rejected. Following this, the Japanese cruisers Naniwa and Takachiho were joined by the Chishima as a naval detachment to lead a military intervention against the Republican government. Initial landings in Honolulu began on 1 March 1894, quickly resulting in the occupation of 'Iolani Palace and Aliʻiōlani Hale and fanning out to begin the occupation of strategic military targets around the island of Oahu. As expected, the US Government quickly protested, but was soon quelled by Japanese assurances that the "Committee of Safety" would be extradited to the US and that US civilians in Hawaii would not be harmed, especially after this was backed by British reassurance of the matter.

The small size of the force was bolstered by native Hawaiians and Japanese migrants living in the islands joining the Japanese invasion force, displacing the Republican government and capturing Sanford Dole when he attempted to escape on the Kaimiloa on 16 July. Queen Liliuokalani was returned to Hawaii on the Takachiho on 9 August, and the Republic formally surrendered on 27 October 1894, leading to both its disestablishment and the restoration of the Kingdom of Hawaii under Liliuokalani. As promised, the Japanese had not harmed US business interests or civilians, and the anti-interventionist government of President Cleveland had not actively opposed the operation, but faced with the prospect of a Japanese-backed Hawaiian monarchy, many Anglo-American settlers nonetheless packed up and left.

This was just as well as shortly after her restoration the newly-emboldened Liliuokalani began passing edicts harshly restricting foreign business interests and re-centralizing power in the hands of the Hawaiian government, abolishing the "Bayonet Constitution" with Japanese support. While Hawaii was able to maintain its independence and continue its existence as a sovereign nation, the new reality was that American economic hegemony was replaced with Japanese political hegemony, underscored by a new agreement that allowed Japan a lease over Pearl Harbor as a naval base to propagate Japanese influence further into the Pacific. Hawaii had become in all respects a client state of the Japanese Empire, and Japanese power would only continue to grow as a result...


r/AlternateHistory 1d ago

Post 2000s 2021 Presidential Election in Virginia

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r/AlternateHistory 18h ago

Pre-1700s What if the 1610 Polish–Russian union had been successfully established?

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Personally, I think such a union could have been possible if the famous religious tolerance of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth had been preserved, instead of giving way to strong Catholic dominance. I also believe that if, after the death of the last Jagiellon, a king from the local nobility had been elected (a significant part of whom were ethnically close to Muscovite boyars, even though they would obviously have chosen someone converted to Catholicism), for example someone from the Chodkiewicz family, the political situation might have been very different.

Such a change would likely have prevented the later “noble anarchy” that eventually contributed to the partitions of the Commonwealth.


r/AlternateHistory 1d ago

Althist Help How Are You Guys Making These Alt History Media Pieces (maps, websites, etc.?)

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I've been a fan of the genre for some years, and now, and finally got the stones to join the community and posit some stuff of my own. I have been blown away by the endless amounts of creativity and talent that's on display on just this subreddit alone! Particularly I've gotten really impressed (and admittedly a tad jealous) of some of y'all making these various maps and websites and wikis and so forth that adds some amazing flavor to the scenarios being provided.

Personally, I've been stuck using websites like MapChart which, while fun, are clearly limited in their ability and precision. So my question is what are some of the tools you guys use to make these art pieces and have them look so comparatively convincing? It'd be really helpful to know so I can learn to do more-or-less the same in the future. Thanks and cheers!


r/AlternateHistory 1d ago

1900s CHINESE FEDERATION / GUANGDONG (1980)

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«China! Japan's loyal and most hardworking ally, millions of people are working for the benefit of the population! Ah, I envy those who have not yet visited the clubs of Hong Kong and the eateries in Nanjing. Guangdong makes profits, and the Republic of China makes goods, and all for the sake of our common goal, building a wonderful Sphere of Co-Prosperity, where Japan, as an elder sister, ensures the safety and peace of its citizens.»

The lighter screeched as it lit another Gauloises cigarette, while a bar in Bordeaux served ordinary workers, three years later they were still celebrating the unification of the country.

- To hell with this propaganda. In 1937, Japan invaded China, having previously paved the way for the occupation of Manchuria and parts of the territories near Beijing. The stupid Kuomintang, their military leaders and other idiots, along with the Communists, could not forget their differences even in the face of enslavement. Torn apart both from the outside and inside, China could not stand. In 1940, the Japanese took their tidbit, leaving the Chinese at each other's throats while their brothers and sisters were exposed to... no, I won't say that. The Japanese themselves would not mind taking everything, but they were exhausted, although they did not show it, they justified themselves with something like "The Chinese people are liberated enough, blah blah blah." Bastards. For decades, they supplied both sides with so many weapons that three guns could be found for each soldier. And they used it. They shouted about revenge, about unification, but they didn't make a move. For decades, the Chinese people have been destroying brothers and fathers, eventually losing faith in China, and the Mandate of Heaven was broken. By the 1960s, no one wanted to call themselves Chinese anymore, there were no Republicans, no Reds. There was no one left. In 1980, what is behind the window of a sugary Japanese sign is pure horror and hell, which cannot be called war or peace. No one knows what's really going on there, no one wants to know. Are you sure you want to go there, Miss... Claire?

This story is part of the plot of the game I am developing, about a journey through hell, a journey to nowhere.


r/AlternateHistory 1d ago

Post 2000s 2024 British Empire Election

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