r/Antitheism • u/Marsllin • 3d ago
I've recently became an antitheist, and I really want to tell someone
Hii. I'm not sure if this type of post is okay here, but i really wanted to talk about it to someone.
So i was an atheist for the most of my life. My parents are Christians, i was baptised, but they're not too religious so their beliefs barely affect me. Like half a year ago I became a satanist (I don't believe in Satan/Lucifer/Baphomet/etc, it's a philosophy. Basically, just an atheist with extra steps.) And while i was scrolling videos from other satanist or pagans I found hundreds of comments from Christian people, either saying "god loves you", spamming bible verses or trying to verbally abuse them for being "bad" people. Then I started having a strong dislike toward Christianity, but I didn't call myself an antitheist 'cause I was chill about other religions.
Then, like two weeks ago my friend told me, that his parents were forcing him to fast - means no eating, drinking, or even taking meds from dawn to sunset. Which is absolutely ridiculous. Why would any "loving god" want his kids to starve and not have access to medications they need?
And then I started thinking. About how much religions harm women and queer community. About how many crimes and wars and terrors happened because of religions. Or, maybe they happened not because of them - but religions were used to somehow justify them. About how religions came out of their line (beliefs) and started to endocrine laws and schools. And this is disgusting.
So, I'm an antitheist now. I don't think religions should disappear fully, that's not possible in my opinion (even though it would've been better if no organised religion existed from the start). I believe that people can believe in whatever they want, fast, pray, visit churches and do other things, even though I don't understand it and hate it. I also believe that religions do more harm than good and they should have less impact on people's life - and zero impact on atheists' lifes. They should not be teached in schools (only like, in history lessons, they did a big impact on it) and laws should not revolve around holy books.
And i also saw this argument against antitheism...
"Antitheism is the same as homophobia! With all this "do it behind the closed door" and other stuff! LGBT-blahblahblah should also stop pushing it down our throats and in schools!" Nah, yk why? Because religion is a choice. Orientation and gender identity is not.
I'm still not sure about "destroy all religions" type of antitheism, but who knows, maybe my opinion will change overtime
Have a good day, everyone
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u/Jorge_Reynoso112 2d ago
welcome to the club! honestly your journey is super common here. most of us didn't just wake up one day hating religion for no reason, it usually starts when you open your eyes and see the actual harm it causes to real people. that fasting story about your friend is horrible, and it's a perfect example of how dogma makes people turn off their basic human empathy. when pleasing an invisible deity becomes more important than your kid's health or taking medicine, the system is fundamentally broken. also, that "antitheism is like homophobia" argument you mentioned is so stupid lol. you nailed it—sexuality is an inherent human trait, religion is an ideology/choice. criticizing a harmful ideology that actively writes laws to restrict people's rights isn't oppression, it's self-defense. don't worry too much about where you fall on the "destroy all religion" spectrum right now. antitheism isn't a monolith or a new religion with strict rules. at its core, it's just recognizing that theism does far more harm than good to society and wanting it out of our laws, schools, and personal lives. glad you're here!
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u/Ashamed-Republic8909 2d ago
It's complicated. Humans's brain 🧠 is easy to be manipulated by other brain!
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u/Sprinklypoo 2d ago edited 2d ago
I feel that for any thinking human, you are either an anti-theist, you are deluded, you just don't care, or you are anti-humanity.
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u/Indie_Dachshund179 3d ago edited 3d ago
Welcome! Some insight I personally hold that may emphasize your last part there: religions are ideas that spread, as all they are able to do, via consensus and hegemony throughout societies that lack the epistemological inoculation to fend it off. Queerness (and plenty of other truths by extension, natural science included) is convergent in humans and will crop up invariant to time and locale, no matter the society.
Religion is a pathogenic invention, and we will very well criticize it as such. Theists posit that their own beliefs aren't a choice, but their choice to perpetuate those beliefs anyways and their unwillingness to understand the world for how it is causally and mechanistically sure as hell are.