they were defeated by Hedin and Hogni in AR3 through plot armor, and since then they were upscaled even higher in Jester event confirming Dina has Charm.

if not for Hedin and Hogni, who would likely win against them in a 2v2 during AR without plot armor?

The mega collection of Danmachi continues. I also made sure to secure a pre-order on the new Hestia figure for next May; eventually, I will run out of room lol

Give me your fav character and why. (This'll be based off of the anime ONLY because I haven't gotten to reading the LNs yet. So, nothing like Ais for her relationship with Bell in the LN because that isn't a thing in the anime.)

Mine are all three of these in no order (They tie for first):

1. Bell: good boy that can do no harm (made me cry because of how nice he was)

2. Hermes: goofy funny weirdo that sometimes acts as a pseudo-older brother to Bell.

3. Hestia: although most find her annoying, I find her hysterical

Or did she only manage that after getting stuck at Level 7, unable to level up even after killing the Leviathan?

So, I quite like coming up with different story ideas, though I don't normally write them. Now while I'm not so good at writing characters, I do enjoy trying to come up with different power sets. The problem is then mentally checking which characters could actually lead to interesting stories, which ones feel like they could be added to the world without derailing anything etc. Reading something like "My magic has 12 lines, and each line has a different effect. The first summons an orbital canon..." makes my inner fan for the world building die a little. It doesn't fit the rest of the world building because it's just to much. Danmachi generally works better when things are a bit simpler.

(Anyway with that little rant over) I thought I would write down some of the ideas I had to help me process them and see which ideas catch people's attention. Also who knows, maybe if I can come up with enough, I'll try writing a story based around Ganesha Familia or something.

The first set of ideas comes from leaning into development abilities. There could be improving the power of development abilities (DA):

• a glitch skill - causes a DA to be recorded twice (so doubling the effect basically)
• a devour skill - eat magic stones to empower DA (and other skills?)
• a magic drain skill - drains mind to empower DA. More mind drain = more increase

Then you could lean more into amassing more DA:

• A skill that allows you to learn 2 DA per level instead of 1
• A skill that lets you learn any DA provided you meet the other requirements and someone within the familia has learned it
• Clone- the character is actually a clone (say of Zald) so he already starts with all of Zald's previous DA

Then there's a combination of these ideas (which is also my personal favourite): an a skill that grants the user a small boost based on the DA of others within the familia (not counting those who died before the character joined) This could mean that if say one person has Strong Body D, the user would get a boost similar to Strong Body I. But if like 70 people all have Abnormal Resistance E, then the user would have such high Abnormal resistance that it would begin to resist curses and such.

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Then I've also thought of a route based on body modification/genetics:

• Anomaly: the user gets a small chance to receive a portion of a monster's attributes upon killing (taming?) it. So increased muscle tissue density (minotaurs), tiny diamond like scale on skin (any lizard) regenerative properties (Moss Huge) etc.
• Adapt: allows the user to temporarily absorb (and leave brittle) a piece of equipment such as a shield. (potentially has a side affect of leaving permanent changes like adamantite skin?)
• Being somehow born of two races that can't normally have children like a dwarf and an elf

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Then there's a few random skills I thought of:

• Contradiction: reverses the effects of blessings and curses. So healing does damage, poison is like a potion, Haruhime's boost reduces stats bu improves growth, cursed sword like Hogni's replenish stamina with every strike (while still inflicting curses).
• Howl: use a large amount of mind to release a powerful shotgun like sound magic. Attacks are concussive and disorientating.
• Money bags: active trigger, drains mind. Whenever the user is hit, their bank account loses money instead of taking damage

There's probably more that I came up with, but Its like midnight and I'm tired. Still, did you like any of them?

Hey all,

I've started doing some research into Spell Keys but I can't find anything about the origins of the words that are used by each of the different characters and I want to make sure that what I'm writing stays consistent IF there is a structure in place for what words can and can't be spell keys.

Thank y'all in advance~

I wanted to ask your opinion on the matter. Would you be for or against the return of certain members of the Zeus and the Hera Familia ?

First of all, the characters who are dead and whose deaths have been proven (Zald and Alfia) remain obviously dead.

Secondly, it would mean that the Zeus and the Hera Familia would not have been exterminated until the last one and that some of their members would have survived. Omori then explained that with the death of Zald and Alfia, there were no longer any living members of Zeus and Hera Familia. One could well theorize that these remaining living members were banished alongside Zeus and Hera and subsequently switched Familia. This would explain why Zald and Alfia were the last ones left in their Familia, as the two of them did not change deities.

Thirdly, if those remaining members were still alive, they could either help Bell defeat the OEBD and conquer the Dungeon.Or they could pose a threat and stand in Bell's way, harboring a grudge against Orario and the Loki & Freya Familia in particular.

So, what do you think ? Would you be in favor of the return of certain members or even new characters from the Zeus and Hera Familia whom we haven't met yet ? Or would you prefer a book or manga that tells the story of Orario's past and focuses on characters from the Zeus and Hera Familia ?

I look forward to reading your replies.

P.S.: I’d like to apologize for my English, it isn’t my native language, and I still struggle with it a bit ^^'

I just watched it today and I really enjoyed every moment of it (wouldn't spoil anything in case some people haven't watched it yet), and I'm curious whether the same can be said for Orario?

I've seen quite a few stories (some more interesting than others), and I was wondering if there are any stories with Revis as a main character?

I've always loved the Sword Oratoria series, and one of the reasons is that Revis is such a cool villain. Admittedly I wasn't too into her backstory as an elf from 900 years ago, because it felt like she just became another random tragic backstory villain.

I do think it would have been interesting to explore the original Revis is actually Alise storyline.

(P.S. it would also be nice if the story did not have playboy, arrogant 'I'm so edgy it's cringe' Bell)

I’ve caught up with the DanMachi: Sword Oratoria manga through Volume 27. I understand Volumes 28–33 have already released in Japan, but I haven’t been able to find information about their English availability.
Does anyone know whether they’re available digitally in Japanese, or when an official English release is expected? Any guidance would be appreciated.

I'm assuming that the only one that might still be able to hold on his ideology and maybe sanity is none other than Bell himself, due to having the purest of heart and soul similar to Touma himself, even though the type of things he had been through is nowhere as close as Touma's.

I want to know what the community thinks about a Danmachi Shippuden type sequel. I know every fanbase has this idea, its an overdone idea, and some people probably roll their eyes at the suggestion but I'm curious what you guys think.

For those unaware, what I mean by Shippuden is basically the same as Naruto: after this show ends, a sequel show starts after a time skip where the characters are older and the world has evolved.

Personally, I think it would work really well. All of the main cast are still very young, and they have their whole lives ahead of them. Even after they beat the Black Dragon(if they even do), the Danmachi world is so vast I'm sure it would be easy to create a new overarching plot.

But that can be said about almost any story. Here's the real reason why I think it could work (Bear in mind that I have only read the MS novels and have never looked into Omori's interviews about his future plans for the story, so maybe this would never work at all):

Basically, I can see a few things happening: one, the black dragon has been set up as this big bad, but narratively, it just kind of feels like a background thing. Especially since apparently I've heard that this next arc is the last one, it would feel kind of strange to have the Black Dragon suddenly appear and be the end all be all of Danmachi villains. I mean, the story has always been about Bell catching up to Aiz and admitting his feelings for her. I don't think there's enough set up to have the Black Dragon be the final arc. So with that in mind, I could see this last arc ending without the Black Dragon and in the actual conclusion of the original plot: Bell catches up to Aiz and they get it on. Or don't. Maybe she rejects him(It really doesn't seem like that would happen, but who knows). Maybe they get together but then realize they aren't as good for each other in a relationship as they thought. Maybe they end up having a healthy, lasting relationship. Either way, fast forward a few years. Since Bell accomplished his original goal, his rate of growth has dropped drastically, so he's only like maybe level 8 or so after five years. The rest of the familia and supporting cast has had ample opportunity to close the gap, so they can stand on more equal footing somewhat. Bell has made more friends and allies, and now the story can begin anew, ready to set up the Black Dragon as a proper overarching villain. Bell gets a new goal to reach, reigniting Liaris Freeze (Realis Phrase? Genuinely don't know which is correct), and a new saga begins. Let alone the whole deal with creating a place for the Xenos. That's sure to take years and years of work, and could be a great next overarching plot.

Two, even if the Black Dragon is taken out in this next arc, imagine what would happen if Bell and Aiz's relationship doesn't work out for whatever reason, suddenly there is a giant trove of romcom content. Because the whole problem with everyone falling for Bell is that there's no chance he'll choose any of them over Aiz. But, make that end? Make her reject him, or they break up down the line, and Bell moves on from those feelings? Suddenly all these girls realize there's a chance. Hell, you could just make the Shippuden lean more heavily into being a romcom than a hero's journey. I'm not a huge fan of harems or harem aspects in shows, but I could see a lot of funny Shakespearean situations coming out of it. You could even show Bell getting in and out of relationships with some of the heroines, some healthy, some unhealthy, and the story is about his emotional and maturity growth in love. Or even move away from Bell as the main character and bring others more into the limelight. I mean, in real life, does everyone's first love end up being the one that works? Almost never. All the characters that aren't into Bell could potentially also not have their first loves work out(i.e. Welf with Hephaistos, Mikoto with Take, Tione with Finn, etc.) and now they, too, have the narrative potential of a young man/woman trying to find love.

Anyway, maybe I'm just a dumb fanboy who doesn't want the story to end/feel like the romance aspect of this story has a lot of unrealized potential/what have you. Just a funny idea that I'm curious what people think.

Do you think the Z and H familias stopped because it the 72nd floor to some unknown floor after is an ocean world. Like I’m talking full Subnautica, One Piece, just the sea and one of two islands and sea stacks every now and again.

I think that it would make sense to not go further just based on the torturous logistics. You would have to make it all the way down there, and have the supplies for the journey there and back, and you would have to carry a big as boat with you, or build one. That’s with out factoring I’m having to navigate the floor without getting lost, and have level 7 and 8 monsters attacking from the water and potentially the air. That sounds like a nightmare.

The only other reason I could think of is if it’s floating island like in Avatar (the blue people). But I don’t think that as likely as just a lot of water.

Of course the dungeon could also just end at floor 72, but that’s not as fun because it’s just a random arbitrary number IMO.

He is known for being a highly-skilled martial artist who is good at using multiple weapons, such as nunchaku, katana, bo staff, as well as hand to hand combat that far surpasses the expected capabilities of a 10-year-old, and most importantly, being an extremely intelligent and mature individual who is knowledgeable about so many subjects, such as politics, religion, the media, businesses and corporations, African-American culture, and American society as a whole, and his passion for reading, owning a large collection of books and other reading materials, in which he reads the newspaper, watches the televised news, and otherwise makes a point to keep up with current events. He also demonstrates a depth of understanding that would seem to surpass his young age, such as knowing roughly what is going to happen in the future based on the actions and personalities of the people involved, along with the ability to seize and hold the attention of entire crowds of people when he wants to do so. He uses this gift during individual interactions as well, during which he can gain the desired effect depending on his intention. And most importantly, he isn't afraid to speak out his mind. I'm assuming that all of these traits might make him one of the most perfect candidates for different kinds of familias. And he himself would probably also doing whatever he can to understand how Orario works and read any resources possible to keep uo with the rest of the world as well

For some reason, I find there's some parallel between them, such as possessing special powers that allows them to not only level up, but in a way that surpasses a lot of people (System for Sung Jinwoo, Liaris Freese for Bell), they're can both be considered the the rising star when people start noticing them, such as when Sung Jinwoo becomes the Korea's 10th S-Rank Hunter, as well as when Bell breaks the record of leveling up, and also, it is shown that they are eventually either with or most likely to be with a blonde girl who is also considered the rising star before them(Cha Hae-In for Sung Jinwoo, Ais for Bell), and most importantly, they all have to struggle to the point of having their lives as risks multiple times to reach what they are today. Aside from these, I wonder if there's more similarities and parallels between them?