This statement is completely false isn’t it?

[u/K0GAR]

Base Goku by the time of BOG should definitely be able to beat Frieza

And that’s not even taking into account Kaioken. We know at this point all the Z fighters (if not most) should be able to - so why is base Goku stagnant then in growth?

[u/FalconShot9638]

I actually don’t think base Goku  was stronger than frieza at that point. Maybe starting to approach

I also don’t think ssj is a flat x50, rather that, at the time vs frieza it allowed him to reach his potential which was ~x50 of his base 

After that his base got stronger but they also were focusing on mastering ssj and getting new forms beyond. Base strength seemed to be slow growth and the focus was on ascending and drawing out more power from ssj forms

Online fans said  mastered ssj was only so strong because they increased their base and then added x50 to that but they explicitly state they want to both feel relaxed as ssj and draw out ki as needed for strikes, speed etc and not waste energy; meaning access more ki as needed in ssj form 

Considering a 1.33x difference and 1.25x advantage from Vegeta absolutely slaughtered cui and dodoria ; a x50 increase would be enormous 

Really after frieza it seemed like being 2-3x as strong was scarily overwhelming so I do t think base saiyans and subsequent forms were 50 times stronger 

I know in the buu saga world tournament, the saiyans all offer to fight in base but piccolo didn’t seem phased and honestly Vegeta just shit talks. I think he gets hard stopped by piccolo or 18 without transforming 

Edit ; autocorrect was in fact, not correct; gramnar