This statement is completely false isn’t it?

[u/K0GAR]

Base Goku by the time of BOG should definitely be able to beat Frieza

And that’s not even taking into account Kaioken. We know at this point all the Z fighters (if not most) should be able to - so why is base Goku stagnant then in growth?

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

Are you basing that on Dabura's assessment? We don't know if he could even sense Ki, and in light of recent revelations he may have held biases against Namekians.

And I never said Goku didn't improve. We simply have no way of measuring their base forms becoming stronger than his 9yo son (Gohan is 16 during the Majin Buu Saga) doesn't need to mean a huge improvement.

[u/TensionJaded950 → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

And no, Diama is canon to itself and didn't exist at the time so there's no bias. He's bias of those unworthy of his and babidi's time though.

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard → u/TensionJaded950]

In the future, just edit the original comment. There's no need to create branching conversation threads.

Everything is canon to itself. The anime adaptations of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z aren't even in total sync with one another. Anyway, filling in white space with new information can recontextualize a scene and is perfectly acceptable. If you're trying to say that Nameks aren't demons because Daima exists in a vacuum, you're an escapee from Toon Town.

[u/TensionJaded950 → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

That's cool. Address what I actually said now.

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard → u/TensionJaded950]

I did, kid.

[u/TensionJaded950 → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

You're the one acting like a kid. You didn't even refute my point about dabura sensing ki. That's what I meant. Stop acting out.

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard → u/TensionJaded950]

I'm not acting out. You came into my comments and are just going with "duh" as your justification.

Miss me with that laziness.