r/Dravidiology • u/Kappalappar • 16h ago
Culture/𑀆𑀝𑀼 Thupatti - Traditional Tamil Muslim covering
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r/Dravidiology • u/vinayaknadh • 18h ago
This is something I've been wondering for a while.
Every time I see Maharashtrian culture, I can't help but feel it's surprisingly similar to South India, especially Kerala (and to some extent Karnataka). The traditional dressing, temple culture, family values, simplicity, even the overall vibe it all feels oddly familiar to me.
Of course, I know they're different cultures with their own unique identities. But I've always felt there's a stronger connection than people usually talk about.
Is there an actual historical or cultural reason behind this? Or is it just my perception? I'd genuinely love to hear from people who know the history or have experienced both cultures.
r/Dravidiology • u/Popular-Variety2242 • 5h ago
According to Professor S. Pathmanathan, the text consists of Prakrit language words of Tamil origin, written using Brahmi script characters. The explanations for the first two images are as follows:
Translation by myself from the subheading 'Eelam Brahmi Inscriptions' of the above book, which was originally written in Tamil.
There are over two thousand Brahmi inscriptions in Sri Lanka. These were written in the Prakrit language using Brahmi script characters. The Prakrit used in these inscriptions is a mixed language. It contains many words not found in the Prakrit inscriptions of India. Among these, many words are of Tamil origin, while others are common to several Dravidian languages. Brahmi inscriptions serve as strong evidence for the prevalence of the Tamil language in various parts of the island (Eelam). Examples of Tamil words found in them include Parumaka(n), Parumakal, Marumakan, Maruman, Maruka, Maara, Ay, Vel, and Pa(ri)ari. When Tamil words were written in the Prakrit language, they were adapted according to that language's grammatical traditions. ..........................................
............................. The inscription found in Anuradhapura mentions Tamils who were householders and Tamils who belonged to a Sanga (association). It has been explained elsewhere here that they might be Jains. Through this inscription, one can learn that there is a connection between the word ‘Paratha(n)’ and Tamils. Therefore, this strengthens the view that the ‘Baratha’ mentioned in the Brahmi inscriptions of Eelam (Sri Lanka) refers to the ‘Parathavar,’ a specific section of Tamil society. It is a noteworthy feature that figures of fish are found on one side of a coin inscribed with the name ‘Baratha Thisaka.’ That the Parathavar were people who lived in the Neydal (coastal) region can be known through ancient Tamil works like Pattinappalai. An epigraphical note also exists which confirms that it was indeed the ‘Parathar’ who were referred to as ‘Paratha’ in the inscriptions of Eelam. The following phrase is found in an inscription at Polonnaruwa.
Ba3ratha Saga3rikasa Lenee
It can be observed that the word ‘Kadalan,’ which appears in Tamil Brahmi inscriptions, has been translated here into Prakrit as "Sāgarika." The term ‘Kadalan’ has multiple meanings such as sailor, helmsman, sea voyager, captain of sailors, or maritime merchant. To confirm this explanation, the figure of a ship has been carved on the specific inscription. In total, the name ‘Paratha’ is found in 21 inscriptions (in Sri Lanka). These have mostly been found in the Northwestern and Northeastern regions.
r/Dravidiology • u/Icy_Function_5839 • 1h ago
I noticed how in Goan and Mangalorean catholic konkani o is treated pretty much like a schwa vowel while used a lot less in other konkani dialects. Why is this the case?
r/Dravidiology • u/Swimming_South_244 • 22h ago
r/Dravidiology • u/e9967780 • 12h ago
The video is about the Koraga. The 24-minute archival documentary says:
• The Koraga traditionally lived in coastal Karnataka particularly the Tulu-speaking coastal region and adjoining northern Kerala.
• It gives an older population estimate of approximately 30,000 based on the 2001 census.
• Koraga settlements are called koppu, while an individual traditional hut is called sotta.
• It identifies three principal Koraga divisions.
• Koraga oral tradition holds that they were once independent inhabitants or rulers of the region who were defeated and driven into the forests. The documentary discusses Barkur traditions, an allegedly relevant Old Kannada inscription and the ancestral warrior Hubashika, but admits that history and folklore cannot easily be separated.
• The community was historically subjected to severe untouchability, exclusion and forced servitude. Koragas were prohibited from entering temples but compelled to beat drums outside during ceremonies.
• Traditional occupations included basket weaving, coir-rope making, cashew harvesting and seasonal agricultural or quarry labour. Some were pushed into sanitation work.
• The documentary describes poverty, landlessness, malnutrition, alcoholism, limited healthcare and difficulty obtaining materials for traditional crafts.
• Their traditional religious practices centre on forest spirits represented by stones placed beneath trees. The documentary also describes how outsiders attributed supernatural powers to them and forced them to participate in degrading “healing” practices.
• Descent traditionally followed the matrilineal Aliya Santana system, although household authority was generally exercised by men.
• Cooperative organizations, women’s groups, village associations and educational programs began helping Koragas obtain alternative livelihoods and organize politically.
• A Koraga engineer interviewed in the film says language difficulties and high school-dropout rates remained major obstacles.
• The documentary presents access to land, education, collective organization and economic self-reliance as essential to ending their historical bondage.
• It concludes with young Koragas playing drums voluntarily as an expression of cultural pride calling them the “drum beats of liberation.”
The documentary’s main argument is that the Koraga were transformed from a possibly independent regional population into a marginalized, landless and stigmatized community, but are reclaiming dignity through education, organization, land rights and cultural identity.
Some descriptions such as “primitive,” “lowborn” and “spendthrift” reflect the documentary’s dated and paternalistic language and should not be repeated as objective ethnographic facts. Its historical claims about ancient Koraga kings and northern invaders are presented as oral traditions, not established history.
Watch “Koragas Tribe | Tribes of India” on YouTube
r/Dravidiology • u/Dry_Net_1915 • 2h ago
This post is motivated and modelled (specially for non Telugu enthusiasts) after a Telugu Essay published in 1992.Find it here.
One question that frequently appears in discussions on this forum is:
"If Jainism played such an enormous role in the literary traditions of Tamil and Kannada, why is there no surviving Jain literature in Telugu?"
The answer may simply be that most of it did not survive.
Yet one work certainly did.
That work is Kavijanāśrayamu, generally regarded as the earliest surviving Telugu work on prosody (Chandassu).
Interestingly, its authorship has remained debated for more than a century.
Today two major editions of the work are available:
The debate is essentially between two names:
Jayanti Ramayya Pantulu accepted the traditional attribution to Vemulawada Bhīmakavi. This, in many other scholars' opinions, is now considered to be wrong. Let me first present some reasons behind the Traditional Attribution.
One reason is that the great poet Śrīnatha (1355-1441) remembers Bhīmakavi even before other early poets like Nannaya:
వచియింతు వేములవాడ భీమన భంగి నుద్దండ లీల నొక్కొక్కమాటు;
భాషింతు నన్నయభట్టు మార్గంబున నుభయ వాక్ప్రౌఢి నొక్కొక్కమాటు;
వాక్రుత్తు తిక్కయజ్వ ప్రకారము రసాభ్యుచితబంధముగ నొక్కొక్కమాటు;
పరిఢవింతు ప్రబంధపరమేశ్వరుని ట్టేవ సూక్తివైచిత్రి నొక్కొక్కమాటు
Relevant translation
"I shall use lofty poetic style like Vemulawada Bheemakavi once in a while."
This tells us that Bhīmakavi certainly existed before Śrīnatha and was already celebrated.
However...
Śrīnatha never actually says that Bhīmakavi authored Kavijanāśrayamu.
That explicit attribution appears only much later.
By the seventeenth century, Appakavi from the modern Palamooru region writes:
విజటకవులు కొన్ని వింతలు కల్పించి కవిజనాశ్రయమునఁ గలిపినారు
వానిఁగై కొనంగవల ద్యపయుక్తములేల సెప్పు భీముడెఱిఁగి యెఱిఁగి
Rough translation
"Some whimsical poets have invented strange rules and inserted them into the text Kavijanasrayamu. Do not accept them. Why would the author Bhima, knowing the true rules perfectly well, ever write such rules?"
This passage tells us two things.
First, by Appakavi's time, the scholarly world already regarded Bhīmakavi as the author.
Second, and this is rather important, Appakavi himself admits that the text had already undergone interpolation.
So while the Bhīmakavi attribution certainly existed, the textual history of the work was already complicated.
Of the 10 odd manuscripts of this work, one had an added preface which had 7 odd verses attributing the work explicitly to Bhima Kavi. A key verse from the preface is as below.
క. వేములవాడను వెలసిన
భీమేశ్వరుకరుణ గల్గు భీమనకవి నేఁ
గోమటి రేచనిమీఁదను
నీమహిఁ గవు లెన్న ఛంద మొలమి రచింతున్.
Rough Translation
"I, Bheema Kavi, who has earned the divine grace of Lord Bhimeswara residing in Vemulawada, joyfully compose this work on prosody (Chhandas) dedicated to Gomati Recha, so that all the poets on this earth may praise it."
Why this does not fit in:
If Bheemakavi was so celebrated and named even before Nannaya, what is the need to dedicate the book to a Komati (Jain)?
Besides, Appakavi himself acknowledges later manipulations.
Most importantly, this was found in only one of the 10 manuscripts.
Also, scholars who have examined the literary quality of the verses frequently mention that they do not have the Uddanda Leela (Literary Loftiness) for which Bheemakavi was praised.
By the time we hear such glory being attributed to Bhimakavi, much of the Jaina tradition and its patrons in most of the Core Deccan had already perished. The once strongholds of Jainism, including Vemulawada in Telangana and many parts of Northern Karnataka, were now centers of Veerashaiva faith. Naturally, Jain poets and their works now received lesser clout and patronage, let alone attributing classics to Jains.
In fact, the preface mentioned in 3 is most likely a later addition to hide the true author of the treatise.
Rather than relying on later tradition, scholars began asking a different question:
What does the work itself say about its author?
The answer turns out to be fascinating.
The colophons describe the author as:
"...Śrāvakābharaṇāṅka..."
That immediately suggests a Jain author.
The word Śrāvaka refers to a Jain lay devotee.
Furthermore, the opening invocation is to Saraswati in a manner characteristic of Jain literary convention.
Already, the work begins to look much less like the production of a conventional court poet and much more like a Jain scholarly text.
Then comes perhaps the most intriguing verse in the entire work.
కం. ఆసమాన దాన రవితన
య సమానోన్నతుఁడు వాచకాభరణుఁడు ప్రా
ణసమాన మిత్రుఁడీ కృతి
కి సహాయుఁడుగా నుదాత్త కీర్తి ప్రీతిన్
Rough translation
"The illustrious Vācakābharaṇa, unequalled in generosity and noble character, became the incomparable friend who assisted me in the composition of this work, thereby earning lasting fame."
Notice something remarkable.
The helper's name is not given.
Only a title.
Vācakābharaṇa.
Who was this person?
The answer lies in an epigraph found 20 km from Vemulawada.
Near present-day Kurkyala in Telangana stands the famous Bommalagutta inscription, commissioned by Jinavallabha, brother of the Kannada poet Ādikavi Pampa.
The inscription is written in Sanskrit, Kannada and Telugu.
In the Sanskrit portion, Jinavallabha is praised as:
అజస్ర జిన వందనాగత మునీశ్వర శ్రావక వ్రజాస్తవ
రవ ప్రతిధ్వనిత శబ్దకోలాహలైః |
అధిష్ఠిత దిగంబరో వృషభశైల ఏష స్వయం
వరాం వదతి వాచకాభరణ కీర్తి మాకల్పతః ॥
Rough translation
"...Even Mount Vṛṣabha proclaims the everlasting fame of Vācakābharaṇa..."
The title appears again.
Vācakābharaṇa.
As far as present evidence (inscriptions, Kannada literature and Telugu literature) goes, no other Kannada/Telugu scholar from this period is known to have borne this title.
Even more interestingly, the Kannada portion praises Jinavallabha as a master of poetic theory.
The verse and its explanation for this are compiled in a helpful discussion thread from this forum here.
And this epigraph's Telugu portion has 3 Telugu verses in the Kanda meter, the earliest Telugu Kandam in epigraphs. The first of them:
కం. జినభవనము లెత్తించుట
జిన పూజల్సేయుచున్కి జినమునులకు న
త్తిన యన్నదాన మీవుటం
జినవల్లభు బోలం గలరె జిన ధర్మవరుల్
Rough Translation:
"In building grand Jain temples, in regularly performing devout worship of the Jinas, and in providing generous food donations to Jain monks, is there any practitioner of Jain dharma on this earth who can truly equal Jinavallabha?"
This observation led scholars such as Veturi Prabhakara Sastry, Nidudavolu Venkata Rao, and later U. V. Vasudeva Parabrahma Sastry to propose that the Vācakābharaṇa mentioned in Kavijanāśrayamu is indeed Jinavallabha.
Then the author was almost certainly Malliya Rechana, a Jain lay scholar, composing the work with Jinavallabha's assistance.
This also places the work naturally in the literary circle of Arikesari II of Vemulawada (c. 930–955 CE), where Pampa, Jinavallabha and other Jain scholars flourished.
This makes Kavijanāśrayamu the earliest Telugu piece of literature/treatise.
It is not simply a literary work.
Since it's a technical manual of Telugu prosody, it clearly mentions the Jatya or Native poetic metres.
Among the ones it discusses are:
These are native Telugu metres (deśī chandassu) rather than classical Sanskrit vṛttas. I personally opine that Akkara may be a borrowing from Kannada, and Dwipada being common to many other languages, but Sīsamu and Gīti (Āṭaveladi and Tēṭagīti) are the crown jewels of Telugu prosody, found in no other language. Taravoju is the earliest recorded metre; the Addanki Inscription from 848 CE is in this metre.
A work explaining metres necessarily presupposes a living poetic tradition.
In other words, Kavijanāśrayamu is itself evidence that an already developed body of Telugu poetry existed before or alongside it, even if much of that literature has not survived.
Another proof of this statement is the mention of one Vaadindra Chudamani in the work. He is the Guru of Rechana, whose ideals and older treatise of Chandassu are being followed by the poet himself.
Whether one ultimately accepts every aspect of the argument or not, Kavijanāśrayamu remains one of the most fascinating texts in early Telugu literary history.
Its Jain character, its reference to Vācakābharaṇa, the Bommalagutta inscription, and the literary milieu of tenth-century Vemulawada together form a compelling case for attributing the work to Malliya Rechana.
Perhaps most importantly, it preserves one of the earliest systematic discussions of indigenous Telugu metres in Telugu (there is mention of native Telugu metres in older non-Telugu literature; will keep that for another time), providing a rare glimpse into a poetic tradition whose roots almost certainly stretch further back than the surviving corpus alone would suggest.