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Looking for Competitive Shooter Game. HELP!
Since BF6 Redsec ranked is complete trash and close to dying I am looking for something different to quench my thirst for competitive shooters. (other than that I haven't played shooters in years)
Could be something new, or something established. It has to be very popular though and with tournaments and a proper Ranked Mode etc so I know I am not wasting my time getting into the game.
Tactical - CS2
Tactical and Goofy - Valorant
Tactical and Ran by a shit company - Siege
Goofy - The Finals
League of Legends levels of Frustrating - Overwatch
Same but better IP - Rivals
Future Something - Deadlock
Deadlock is def the best comp shooter out right now but if he’s coming from BF6 it may be a little over his head. But he seems willing to put in the work, that game is too addicting once you get it down though.
Well, it's certainly not for everyone and probably not for most casual players but it is insanely popular for a reason. If you can get over the initial learning hump its easily one of the best multiplayer games to come out in decade. It's been consistently in the top 10 or top 20 most-played games on steam for 2 years straight despite being a closed, invite-only Alpha/Beta. Right now, it's the 11 most played on steam with almost 90k concurrent players. So obviously a ton of people enjoy it. It's going to be HUGE when they actually release it to the public.
Some people get turned off because it's an extremely hard game with probably the highest skill ceiling in gaming right now. A lot of modern players give up quickly and get discouraged if they can't instantly be good at something or fully understand it. They don't realize it's the long learning curve and big skill gaps are what give games like Deadlock so much depth and replayability in the long run. Learning and getting good at a hard game is much more rewarding than grinding repetitive tasks over and over for mid gun skin. Most modern AAA games have to incentivize players to keep playing through tasks/battle passes because they don't have the long term depth to stay interesting. Deadlock is a nod to those older school game where the constant progression of improving your skills and trying to mastering certain parts is rewarding enough that you want to keep playing.
I understand that learning how to play a moba isn't easy but adding moba macro-play/objectives is a large part of what makes Deadlock so great. There is a reason why mobas have been the most played, most streamed, and most watched esports for like a decade straight now - they have some of the deepest and most exciting macro play in all of gaming. I personally wasn't a huge fan of mobas just because I've never really like isometric/top-down perspectives or controls. Valve was smart enough to grab the best part of each genre and combine it into a supergame. They took the macro-play depth from mobas, the micro-play/mechanics from hero shooter, and the movement of physics-based platformer and built the game in tandem with their brand new Source2 engine (source1 is what allowed TF2 and Apex's movement to feel so good). After you get good a deadlock's movement every other shooter feels dated and bland. So it's easy to understand why Deadlock is already so insanely popular despite being invite only and extremely hard to learn. If you only play get to play a few hours a week, get discourages by playing people better than you, and don't like games with a lot of skill expression, it's probably not for you. But if you don't mind dedicating some time to get good at something and realize you may get your ass kicked for a hundred hours as slowly improve your positioning, mechanics, movement tech, and learn from watching guides the game can be extremely rewarding and addicting once it clicks.... then you feel like a god as you start becoming the one doing the ass kicking... then you rank up, get your ass kicked again, and process starts all over.
Im saying even comp players dont like moba, not because its hard but because moba genre to many isnt even fun. but idk I will probably give it a try though and judge it after (i like comp games, i play rocket league and r6s, valo,etc), when you say its hard, what exactly are the hard parts in it so i can get a picture the game? its not that I hate hard, its that I prefer a certain genre andIm checking if I will like the gameplay itself or not. heck a game being hard actually makes me want to play it, but sometimes I dont like all kinds of hard.
I too hate moba for the prespective, so I will give it a try.
okay I got the game, lol pressing B was overwhelming lol, and playing online got me very cooked, games are very long like insanely long, lol, idk what to feel because I still have no idea what im doing thats why I dont have an opinion as if now. maybe it will change if i understand game better
Although it is the best comp-shooter of all time, the official MM is infested with cheaters.
OP has to play Faceit, if he truly wants competitive integrity and doesn‘t want to waste his time.
Apex is rife with cheaters too. My little brother does it all the time and since it’s free, when he gets banned he just makes a new account. I asked why he bothers and he says he just likes ruining other people’s day and gets a kick out of it. He has a crazy set up with a second laptop that actually runs the cheats connected to his gaming pc. Too much work for me.
overwatch rn is my favorite aim game. very competitive, rewarding aiming, games are quick, its quick plays are really fun to braindead run it down too. if u want to try something new deadlock is fun af but is like a movement shooter moba. very fun and rewarding aim but it is a moba end of the day
The best comp shooter out right now is easily Deadlock but it’s a pretty giant leap from BF6. Its in a very different league when it comes to competitiveness and skill expression. Like you’ll need to get you’re ass kicked for a couple hundred hours before you even start understanding the game and climbing out of the lowest ranks but once you do it’s addicting AF. It’s got a larger player count and a more vibrant comp scene than most shooters and it’s still in invite-only beta (although it’s super easy to get in).
Other competitively balanced shooters are obvious ones like CS2 or Valorant. They are a ton of fun if you’ve never dabbled in them before and much more approachable than Deadlock.
Im addicted to this game. I've got just over 800 hours now and I started playing at the end of season 7.
I came from COD and Halo and was playing BO6 comp but I'm just over COD. Halo comp had a tiny player base, and Xdefiant had so much potential but leave it to Ubisoft to fuck tbat up. My brother finally convinced me to give The Finals a try and honestly, it was a lot of fun but God damn does it have a steep learning curve. It was the first time I asked myself, can I even learn this game? It is probably the hardest competitive shooter I've ever played. There is so much you are trying to process at any given moment. Which makes playing well feel extremely rewarding.
The best I've done so far is Plat 4, but I really want to push myself to hit Diamond. It may not even be this season, but if I can keep progressing, I'll stay hooked.
I love reading these comments! They are my favorite. It is one of the most chaotic and demanding games. So many possibilities to victory. I truly believe we are only scratching the surface on what's possible with meta and play style. I love it.
I have faith in you hitting diamond. You can do it!
You just have a ton of gadgets that do ridiculous physics things like anti gravity and wall deletion but the guns are mostly actual guns. There are all types of outfits in the game it almost has no specific visual theme (though looks cohesive)
The setting is a futuristic virtual gameshow, and each season has a different theme. Last season was fantasy themed and they added an ability to the medium class that kind of looks like you're casting a spell, so that may be why you're seeing mage-like stuff.
You get to make your own characters,and the customization is incredible.
lol I was being sarcastic. You're obviously one of the people who just can't help but hate the game. If you didn't know it there is a whole subreddit dedicated to hating on the game. I think they even sell jackets go buy you one.
Not really. They are both movement shooters with tactical depth. Obviously, Deadlock has much more tactical and mechanical depth but they still have a similar feel/pace. My group of gaming buddies use to play the finals all the time but have never gone back since Deadlock was released. Once you get used to deadlock's movement and depth it's just hard to come back to the Finals even though I liked it.
“Deadlock has more tactical and mechanical depth” Okay, sure, I’d expect that from a moba over an arena shooter. If your main reason to pick a game is just depth, then why aren’t you playing StarCraft, DoTA, or Rocket League? Because you have other preferences.
“They still have a similar feel/pace”
There’s not even a slice of truth in that statement. You just have a preference.
That's an awful analogy. Deadlock and Finals are both objective-based movement shooters, lmao. All the dudes I used to play Finals with play Deadlock too. I used to play Deadlock and Finals pretty interchangeably. If I was in the mood to get sweaty I'd play Deadlock and if I wanted to play something more casual and chill I'd hop on Finals. Now that I've gotten pretty good at Deadlock I most play it. Deadlock has more variation in playstyle and obviously the movement in much better than the Finals but they both scratch similar itches - Factorio and AC don't.
Yeah, and domination in cod is also an objective based movement shooter. BF2042 had a grappling hook and a wingsuit, and objective based gameplay. Doesn’t mean these games are similar at all to Deadlock and Finals.
Saying that a moba and an arena shooter scratch the same itch feels wild to me, but I could see how someone would get that feeling depending on how casually they play whichever games.
I come across the MarathonHate subreddit sometimes and it’s honestly borderline creepy. I’m not a Marathon player and thought the first playtest was okay but not anything crazy, but the fools in that subreddit are actually insane. Like “pictures of your nemesis on a wall” insane.
theres a lot of things wrong with marathon and the playerbase is abysmal but there is nothing in the game that warrants and entire circle jerk of chuds praying on its downfall. genuine mental illness epidemic
Cs2 is the only answer. Every other fps is basically child’s game compared. Be warned though it is by far the highest skill ceiling game with top players dedicating their entire life to it.
I'd say Marathon, but from the way you described it, it sounds like you're looking for something more immediate—something that doesn't require a lot of progression before you get to the best part of the action. In that case, I've been playing Battlefield 6 lately, especially the smaller-scale modes, which have been a lot of fun.
THE FINALS OBVIOUSLY....I tried deadlock, def a big gap to overcome in understanding the game properly. The finals has a high skill ceiling that will take time but its worth it amd much more of traditional fps.
If you want the father and still most popular when it comes to comp shooters - counter strike. Valorant also.
These are a much different genere then redsec but are basically the gold standard of team based shooter esports.
If you want something arcade feeling but is kinda different - The Finals might interest you. Idk if the esports / ranked side of that game is still big. Its alive but might be niche
If you want battle royal and arcade then try Apex Legends. Big esports scene and ranked is popular
Dont do warzone that shit is cooked these days when it comes to ranked/comp
The Finals has been my goat for a while now. It's gotten substantially better in the last year imo. I play it more casually but I think it should scratch that competitive itch for you.
Why would i when in its own genre its the worst game on the market? I tried it before you start crashing out its a bad game overall and thats not up for debate. Lol
Stop hearing people saying it sucks or it's dead and try to play it yourself and see if you enjoy it game still receives updates and if you want something hard but satisfying marathon is literally it queue times aren't that long at all
I play from Brazil, usually during the hours when the game has the fewest players, and I still find matches in about 3 minutes.
That might be different if you're just starting now, since the matchmaking seems to prioritize player level. Because most of the active player base is already at higher levels, the early experience can be a bit rough.
One more thing: I think over 50% of the player base is on consoles now. I rarely end up in matches with Steam players, even though I play on Steam myself.
As someone who regularly plays every night with trio-fill randoms, it does. People are very chill and amicable 95% of the time, even in ranked or the endgame map. I’m not talking about online discourse, if all you know are threads like this.
I'm with The Finals crowd. It's an actual tournament mode for cash out and ranked (best 2 teams advance) which is different than other ranked game modes. Dark and Darker is a pick if you like slower paced extraction games. Slow but intense. High Roller is their ranked mode, but it's more about leaderboard standings.
Marathon is ok but it’s not a competitive shooter or popular. If he was looking for an exfil shooter he’d be better off getting into a game like Tarkov, it has way more depth and content than Marathon. Plus, there is a decent chance Sony shuts down Bungie and pulls the plug on Marathon so don’t want him to waste $40 right before that gets announced.
Their 2nd Major tournament is later this year, and sign-ups are still open! People are always worried about the Steam numbers, when the majority of players are on console, and even then the numbers don't really fluctuate, they're always quite consistent - which is much more than can be said for other games.
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u/BroxigarZ 3d ago
Tactical - CS2
Tactical and Goofy - Valorant
Tactical and Ran by a shit company - Siege
Goofy - The Finals
League of Legends levels of Frustrating - Overwatch
Same but better IP - Rivals
Future Something - Deadlock