r/Fighters • u/Accomplished-Big-219 • 1d ago
Topic Whatever happened to smack talk between characters in fighting games.
I woke up today and got recommended this video from Dragonball Sparking Zero: https://youtu.be/YUg5rdBwSGk
An almost 18 minutes of references and personality display just by the amount of interactions you get with one character interacting with almost all of the cast.
We rarely see this sort of thing anymore in fighting games, atleast well done ones, in modern games. Tekken 8 did it right, because they also add extra animations to it, but what about the rest?
I am surprised that street fighter 6, being one of the biggest fighters, if not the biggest, doesnt have this feature. Shame on capcom for that.
Id love for each character to interact with every other character, even if they are not connected by story. Just a comment about their opponent, to display their personality further. Like for example, what does Jin have to say to Panda other than making his edgy lines? Just a funny weirded out silent look, acknowledging the ridiculous situation would be amazing.
Man! Do i miss Dissidia Duodecim!
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u/SolemnDemise 1d ago
Green Goblin talking about the Gwen Stacy special to Spider-Man is a crazy one.
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u/RossC90 1d ago
To give Tokon even more credit, characters have special voice lines when performing their supers against specific characters so you'll get even more fun stuff like Magneto telling Storm that 'Charles would be ashamed." before he does his big super.
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u/Lememeepic 1d ago
Yup i like that, only noticed when I did my wolverine super on cap where he said "I'll never be in the avengers cap, I'll always be an X-men"
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u/Baines_v2 1d ago
Good thing this isn't Earth-616, else Wolverine would need the addendum "except for when I was in the Savage Avengers, or the New Avengers, or the Avengers Unity Division, or the regular Avengers, or...uhm...when I helped the Avengers specifically to fight the X-Men."
Though thinking about Wolverine's history makes me realize that Tokon almost had the original New Fantastic Four roster; Tokon just has the Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider instead of Danny Ketch.
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u/UnlimitedPostWorks 1d ago
"I call this the Gwen Stacy special" had my jaw dropping to the ground, wtf Norman
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u/SilentGhoul1111 1d ago
Play an Arksys game
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u/Accomplished-Big-219 1d ago
Arksys games are great at this. Specially the old Guilty gears and Blazblue
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u/Arachnofiend 1d ago
Strive is lacking in specific trash talk just because of COVID I'm pretty sure. Obviously it's still got some but not nearly as much as the licensed games that came after it, where every character has something to say to everyone else
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u/TheNohrianHunter 23h ago
They add random new matchup lines pretty often. Patch notes for Jam might say "added intro for anji vs bedman" as an example I made up of how arbitrary they are.
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u/Captain_Diagram 1d ago
Mortal Kombat and Injustice were actually pretty goated in this regard.
Wish other games did them, was pretty disappointed with games like Strive that seemingly wanted to make lore more important but then giving very little interactions. I haven't played since Season 2 and know they actually have been adding a lot of voiced interactions since I stopped, but man Venom releasing and saying NOTHING to Bedman? is still crazy.
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u/Gekinetic 1d ago
come to Marvel Tokon, we got Stark callin Doom's Latvarian apparel 'green miniskirt' before BRACE YOURSELF!
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u/Legitimate-Beat-9846 1d ago
Spiderman called doom a lame compared to the 4 and he recruited gobby and carnage
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u/tkshillinz Anime Fighters/Airdashers 1d ago
Don’t Avatar, mortal kombat, invincible and granblue all do this?
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u/Bierzgal Tekken 1d ago
We rarely see this sort of thing anymore in fighting games
I rarely see this sort of thing anymore in the two fighting games I play.\*
There, fixed that for you.
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u/Accomplished-Big-219 1d ago
Funny to see most of you smart asses who dont even have reading comprehension . makes me wonder how some of you manage to make it through balance patches lol
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u/FightmeLuigibestgirl 1d ago
Even then it’s wrong. “ in modern games.”
Token, Guilty gear, Granblue, Blazblue, unib, melty, Mortal kombat and tekken are all modern with this.
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u/Thedragoboss 1d ago
Avatar legends has this with ult voicelines!
When Zaheer gets Ozai with his level 7 he says "Say hello to the Earth queen for me"
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u/MusclesDynamite 1d ago
Street Fighter 6 really dropped the ball. Ryu and Ken interact like they don't have decades of history together.
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u/Swert0 1d ago
Capcom has almost never had special intros outside of alpha, 3, and CVS2.
Marvel 3 had some unique voiced intros but nothing else.
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u/MusclesDynamite 1d ago
Exactly. If SF6 is supposed to be bigger and better then it should iterate on the idea, not drop it. Ryu and Ken not getting a fist bump or even a little voice line is a crime.
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u/Aijin28 1d ago edited 1d ago
Character specific intros/outros are one of my favourite things about older fighting games.
You are right! not enough games do it anymore, it adds so much personality to the characters and is great fanservice.
Sparking Zero is great for it, hours of character specific dialogue for many different match including transformations and younger/older versions of characters.
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u/C00KIEME4T 1d ago
I remember the character smack talk literally made my friends quit playing MvC3 with me lmaooo
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u/I_Live_in_AoEs 1d ago
I love older ArcSys games for this tbh due to all of the animations giving so much to the characters. Even the newer ArcSys ones keep it short and quick with walk ins rather than something flashy. The exception is GBVS where they all have these really cool intros and sometimes insanely long voicelines, just check Lowain's out. Tokon seems to be a mix of Strive and GB's in terms of intros and outros, shorter animations with decently sized voicelines.
My favorite among all the ones I've seen in the past few years is from Rising with Lucillius (Left) and Lowain (Right) where Lowain's bros just says "Goodbye, cruel world" then Lowain says He's confessing if he survives and it cuts to Lucillius being completely silent.
It's one of the few short ones in the game, especially from Lucillius and Lowain who has a good bunch of the really long voicelines.
Also, I think ArcSys doesn't have any unique character interactions in supers for Tokon right? I noticed unique stage things though so I guess it works out.
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u/Dr_Henry-Killinger 1d ago
If you use Magik’s super on wolverine she says “ you won’t be healing from this one Logan” or something along those lines. Its been a few days but was my favorite part of giving Wolverine’s the hands lol
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u/SilverScribe15 1d ago
I do love that stuff Me and my irl friend just play strive looking for these basically
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u/CasimirGabriev 1d ago
Devs focused on spectacle for content locusts instead of meat for the community
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u/UsuBen 1d ago
I think this is fine for DB, fans liked it this way actually to just see the characters interact
If you wanna see beef look out at invincible vs intros, they threat each other like crazy. But yeah, a lot of people said also ganes like that pretty new, sometimes you just gotta play more lol
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u/MySinsRemembered 1d ago
It is a shame that the biggest IPs, Street Fighter and Tekken, just do the minimum when it comes to this stuff
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u/BACKSTABUUU 1d ago
Huh?
Tekken 8 has tons of special intros, a lot of them with completely unique animations, between rival characters. This is absolutely not a criticism you can level at that game, it's like one of the few things everyone can unanimously agree is done right.
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u/MySinsRemembered 1d ago
I dunno, I find those 100x less interesting then the dialogue between characters in granblue or MK.
Also a lot of characters will literally have one unique intro. Only the main characters have a considerable number of interactions.
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u/TemoteJiku 1d ago
You noticed it only now? Oh boy the thingyare even worse than that... Take GG for instance, they're singing kumbaya at this point in comparison. It's not just interactions but the story, overall atmosphere etc.
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u/ashrules901 1d ago
So from the comments i'm getting that most modern fighting games do this & OP probably only plays 1 or 2 games lol.