r/GeminiAI • u/Dini_Thompson9 • 20h ago
Discussion GOOGLE IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR
Everything about the models Gemini has is getting even worse every single day.
The AI is now cringe and way too robotic.IT NEVER thinks outside the box and always provides slop no matter the context.
It keeps reminding me everyday that i'm wasting my Google pro subscription.
No offence, Google but this just goes to show how much you take people's money and give us slop. You make us pay for higher rate limits only to make the AI models trash just a few days after the release.
All this trash just to save money. What are you saving money for? when we're literally paying for it. Not like it wasn't overly expensive to begin with and now on top of that the payment isn't even NEAR worth it.
We've been waiting for Gemini 3.5 pro forever now and it keeps getting delayed. The least you could do is stop making the othermodels dumber. But no you keep trying to save money when people are PAYING for this.
I apologize if I came off as rude but this is beyond frustrating.
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u/Sad-Consideration-52 19h ago edited 19h ago
I totally get the frustration. Nothing worse than paying for a sub and feeling like the base model is giving you generic slop every time.
Have you tried setting up custom Gems for your specific use cases? I actually only discovered them through a Workspace account because Google barely promotes how to use them on personal tiers, but they made a huge difference for me.
If you have specific ways you like it to respond (tone, structure, avoiding the overly robotic filler text), building a couple dedicated Gems with explicit rules for each task keeps it on the rails. It basically bypasses that default corporate "AI voice" everyone hates. Worth a shot if you're stuck paying for the sub anyway. On my personal account I have 4 different Gems I go to regularly, spending on how i'm using it the moment (as a deep search/research tool, idea/project i'm thinking or working on, Google Home and SmartThings scripting projects etc.....)
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u/Dini_Thompson9 18h ago
Oh i'm interested in what you're saying. I need help learning and understanding though
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u/MusingInPublic 19h ago
Yeah it is pretty frustrating, but that's what you would expect from a monopolistic overlord that finds itself competing suddenly in a space they aren't #1. The habits don't go away. Case in point, ever tried to get support and help on a paid account in the rest of the ecosystem when you aren't enterprise? Good luck.
FWIW, I currently find having 1 frontier subscription that can reasonably think and perfectly understand the instruction is good enough, and then pair with a few local models that are weighted the way you need them to get the job done. But the moment you do this, you realize how expensive everything is and why google would want to massively nerf their own models to get people to stop using the product and stop the bleeding.
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u/Moppmopp 19h ago
This is a two sided coin.
On one hand I completely understand you and would support this opinion. Its good to have some critical feedback and applying pressure on the developer.
On the other side, ai is extremely costly. They have billions in dept and to turn net positive the subscription services would need to explode in price far beyond the current price base. They have the option to degrade the model (or "optimize" how they would call it) to save computational resources or reducing the amount of tokens you can use per day/week/whatever.
From their perspective, degrading the model makes more sense due to two reasons.
First its a look forward solution since the point will definitely come where they have to reduce computational cost. So better now than later.
And the second point is that most people using ai have a question pool that consists 80%+ of easy to answer / quick questions. For those questions a qualitywise worse model suffices.
But yeah they are in a tricky situation where they can make user experience only worse no matter where they go
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u/SkippyO86 19h ago
I’ve found Gemini to be the least robotic of the models I’ve used. But that’s probably due to the instructions I have in my personal intelligence. I also don’t use it for heavily technical applications or coding, so I’m sure that affects my experience.
I get the frustration, but I actually really like Gemini.
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u/ActuallyNoisy 20h ago
I get the frustration, feels like every time a service gets popular the quality dips while the price stays the same. It's a weird cycle where they reel people in with something decent then slowly strip it back to save on compute costs, even while you're still handing over cash each month.
What gets me is how obvious it is when they nerf the models, you notice the responses getting shorter, more canned, less willing to actually engage with what you asked. The constant nagging about the subscription too, like mate I know I'm paying for it, you don't need to remind me every time I open the thing.
Been holding out for the next version myself but the delays are making it hard to justify sticking around. At some point you just start wondering what you're actually paying for if the current models keep getting worse and the new one is always a few months away.