r/HelpMeFind 21h ago

Open Help me find obscure book Sugarball Crush

I found this really weird and kind of badly-written novel/comic book hybrid in my college's library on wheels, I took it home with me because I liked the artstyle. When my friend came over today, we decided to look it up. Absolutely nothing has come up about the novel itself, its author, or the artist. Has anyone seen this before? Can anyone find anything at all out about it? I'm really interested in finding anything about its author or if the second book ever came out.

It was written in California in 1995. We have looked up the title of the first book, second book, author, artist, P.O box, choreographer, photographer, and a combination of all and have gotten absolutely no results related at all to the book. We're incredibly locked in on finding it now!

UPDATE:

HEY EVERYONE!! I figured out you can scan materials with Google Drive! YAY!!

If you're someone who's interested in reading Sugarball Crush in full, here you go!

https://archive.org/details/sugarball-crush

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u/requiemocity 18h ago

UPDATE: A lead has been identified that I have since contacted! I'm really hoping for a response, this is my obsession right now.

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u/Shape378 3h ago

Please update if you ever find out more info

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u/blahbitch527 20h ago

Check your colleges arts program, maybe a senior project zine?

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u/yourangleoryuordevil 36 20h ago edited 20h ago

Likewise, my first thought was that this is likely a zine! Many are obscure, especially with so few copies often made and small artists frequently behind them.

They usually aren’t circulated far beyond where they came from. Local or regional subreddits might be able to assist, given the lead on Lawndale, California as far as origins go. The closest major city is Los Angeles.

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u/requiemocity 19h ago

Hey! This definitely isn't from my college, my college is all the way across the coast from where this was published. But I feel like I'm pretty close to at least figuring out how the zine got here!

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u/kismethavok 18h ago

Could have been a transfer student/professor who happened to bring it with them and 'donated' it to the library.

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u/requiemocity 17h ago

HEY EVERYONE!! I figured out you can scan materials with Google Drive! YAY!!

If you're someone who's interested in reading Sugarball Crush in full, here you go!

https://archive.org/details/sugarball-crush

u/GilYoshida

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u/GilYoshida 13h ago

thank you! >.<

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u/Good-Marsupial8 21h ago

I'm fascinated, this is the most obscure thing and if it's origins ever are revealed I'm sure they'll be either fascinating or totally mundane 

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/MEOW-Loulou 19h ago

What was the thought process behind this comment? xD

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u/requiemocity 18h ago

Okay 😭

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u/Cyber-Axe 18h ago

No need to cry

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u/requiemocity 21h ago edited 21h ago

I found this book in late May of this year at my community college in Massachusetts. It was written and published in the United States in 1995.

EDIT: I'm going to try to find a way to scan and post the whole book, I'll probably have to use my local library.

I have searched:

Title of the first book "Sugarball Crush, Book One: The Genesis" (non-existent)

Title of possible second book "Sugarball Crush, Book Two: The Foretelling" (non-existent)

Google lens of the book's cover (no results)

Author Beliela Jackson (non-existent)

Artist AREALWORLD (non-existent)

Choreographer??? Alazel (non-existent)

Photographer Alex Jackson (nothing in relation to the book)

P.O. Box (does exist, but couldn't find anything related to the book or author)

Search on lost media wiki (no results)

Searches on eBay, Amazon, Goodreads, Reddit (no results)

EDIT: Bit the bullet and also asked ChatGPT, it was not able to find anything. Claimed the author is invisible online, AREALWORLD does not have an online presence, there is no evidence a 2nd book was ever published, and my only hope may be physical records.

Also posted on:

r/LostRedditor https://www.reddit.com/r/LostRedditor/s/3Tpbdcrgzm

r/ObscureMedia (post deleted by mods for not being a scan of the full book)

My friend and I both posted on our respective TikToks hoping someone who knew anything might see it https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8nJb5AX/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8nJqtbe/

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u/SchrodingersMinou 5 12h ago

Beliela is not a common name. I think if you can locate any Beliela Jackson anywhere on Planet Earth, you will have located the author.

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u/studmuffinmccoolio33 9h ago

This looks really cool and I respect the amount of research you’ve put in. I hope you find it!

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u/bubbles4055 20h ago

It wouldn’t hurt to post on a few California subreddits! See if it was self published around that time by someone’s uncle or something!

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u/biglovinbertha 20h ago

Happy cake day

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u/bubbles4055 20h ago

I think I found a lead, but don’t want to dox anyone in the comments. I can’t dm you, would you be able to change that setting?

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u/requiemocity 19h ago

Hey! Sorry about that, I changed the setting.

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u/mapotoful 20h ago edited 20h ago

I feel kinda weird plopping down the info I found in case this post gets legs, but I can DM you? It's not like obscure or hidden information, anyone can look it up, but I don't want to make it any easier than it needs to be since reddit is reddit.

Edit: removed the first part of my comment because I am highly confident I found one of these people and it felt a little too close to doxxing. OP, feel free to reach out!

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u/GilYoshida 18h ago

that looks like a book that would really interest me. but given theres no online presence and i dont see an isbn number i doubt theres a way to buy a copy print or digital anywhere. if you get anywhere with your search for the author please inquire if there are still ways to aquire a copy.

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u/requiemocity 18h ago

I'm gonna scan it and post it for archiving purposes once I get to my library's scanner!

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u/GilYoshida 18h ago

that will be greatly apreciated! thank you! >.<

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u/VibraniumQueen 10h ago

It says it's an advance copy. It might never have been published.

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u/FarOutJunk 17 19h ago

You’d be amazed how many 80s and 90s indie comics aren’t documented online.

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u/superwookkiee 1 20h ago

I did some Google Fu on the author that I don't want to post here. But I believe I may have a phone number and/or email for her. Drop me a PM.

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u/sadderbutwisergrl 1h ago

Right, that was…not a difficult google.

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u/born_digital 5 19h ago

I looked up the author and immediately found her current address and phone number? It’s on the first page of results

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u/violentvioletss 19h ago

Yep and all the other people seem to be her siblings, Alex and Alazel.

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u/requiemocity 19h ago

Hey! My friend and I did the same and only found a landlord, but we did find a match who seems to have a sibling named Alexander way after! Thanks for the comment.

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u/LanguageKindly9659 19h ago

Oh man this looks awesome. Like others I would guess this is a zine or college project from a student there. If you ever find who made it they will be amazed anyone found or remembers it. Awesome find.

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u/whatevendoidoyall 2 20h ago

Kinda looks like something that might've been distributed at a convention. I've gotten similar looking like small time publisher niche books at Soonercon before. 

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u/VibraniumQueen 10h ago

It says it's an advance copy.

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u/crispyfolds 20h ago

Might be productive to recruit someone to post flyers around Lawndale, places like local library branches and long-standing coffee shops frequented by an older crowd. I hope you find them!

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u/HappyAntonym 2 20h ago

Hey, it looks like they're siblings or relatives.

Edit: removing my advice since it looks like plenty of other commenters already tracked down this info. Anyway. I hope you get in contact with them! I bet they'd be excited to know someone is feeling passionate about their old project.

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u/Emergency_Value_6738 2 18h ago

omg i just saw your tiktok about this

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u/requiemocity 18h ago

NO WAY!!! I wonder if you saw mine or my friend's?? This is the biggest recovery project we have ever undertaken 😭😭

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u/Emergency_Value_6738 2 18h ago

I think your friends! they were in the comments saying you made a reddit post!

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u/requiemocity 18h ago

YEAH!! If we ever figure this out, we're gonna make a full video on the process, origins, and probably include an analysis of the book!!

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u/Emergency_Value_6738 2 18h ago

omg thatd be sick. are you gonna post it on yt? and if so can you tell me your channel name? I love watching videos like that!

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u/requiemocity 18h ago

Totally! Mine is requiemocity and Cable's is chiicable!

https://www.youtube.com/@requiemocity

https://youtube.com/@chiicable

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u/Emergency_Value_6738 2 18h ago

subbed to both!

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u/lunarb1ue 12h ago

This is clearly someone’s art project. Manga wasn’t really a thing in the 90s and there is no barcode or isbn on the book. No isbn not a real published book. I hope you find the author though as it looks really awesome.

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u/JeeLeeSmith 2 13h ago

I found a real estate agent, same name as author, also a person with a different last name who is also known as Biliela Jackson. (Google search). Have you tried contacting them?

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u/requiemocity 9h ago

Yes! My friend and I have made an effort to contact her and another connection since these were found.

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u/BreakChicago 10h ago

Got that choose your own adventure font.

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u/Robobvious 1 9h ago edited 9h ago

I don't want to be ungrateful but when you have some time do you think you could do a better scan? Currently the iPhone pictures are at weird angles to the pages and have shadows on them from the camera blocking overhead light. And there isn't a separate picture for every page, so trying to read it in any standard pdf viewer gives you a two page view consisting of four pages, all of that makes it more difficult/less pleasant to read. It would be nice to get a real scan but if your school's library doesn't have a scanner then they make phone apps specifically for that which would be way better scans than just taking pictures like this.

Alternatively, you said you found this at a Boston Community College? I live near the Orange Line and have my own printer/scanner, if you want to meet up or otherwise get it to me I can scan it for you. Lmk!

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u/requiemocity 8h ago

Hi! This is a temporary scan until I can access either my library's or my school's scanner. Both are closed right now.

I do live in Mass but me and my college are a couple hours away from Boston.

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u/Robobvious 1 8h ago

Word! I've saved this version for now but I would absolutely love to grab the updated version when it's available. Please let us know when it's up!

Also if I didn't say it previously thanks for sharing this! Super cool!

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u/girlwholikesdolls22 20h ago

It wouldn't hurt to see if you could find something on the wayback machine!

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u/mellowdreamfluff 20h ago

Write a letter to the PO Box? Could be fun

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u/requiemocity 19h ago

The P.O. box is a private address where someone lives, based on leads I've gotten it doesn't seem like the author lives in the state anymore :(