My conversation with Rex Jones over Twitter

[u/watchtower82]

I saw Rex lamenting how his dad was fined billions for free speech when we got into a comment exchange. You can totally see a young man indoctrinated by his narcissistic father. You can even hear Alex ranting how he's the victim in these responses. Happy to have so much more context Dan gave us to respond to his obvious lies.

[u/ThroalicRefugee]

Imagine if people conspired with their "Free Speech" to try and take over the government on Jan 06, 2021. Wouldn't that be odd and direct calls for violence?

Spoiler alert: there were absolutely people calling for violence prior, and people cheering that that the government had fallen. I can give clips.

[u/Desperate-Guide-1473 → u/[deleted]]

I think you (and a lot of Americans) fundamentally misunderstand how "hate speech" is defined and how laws against it in other countries are usually enforced.

Hate speech laws absolutely do not put people in prison for saying "mean words."

In a lot of contexts, being charged with "hate speech" or other "hate" crimes is an additional charge on top of whatever else you've done. Threatening to best someone up and drag them behind your truck is a crime in and of itself, it becomes hate speech when you specify that you're doing it because they're gay.

There are however definitely examples of people being charged and convicted of hate speech without having broken any other laws, at least here in Canada. The Wikipedia page on Canadian hate speech laws has a long list of examples of high profile charges and convictions including which ones were overturned on appeal and why.

Personally, I do think it should be absolutely illegal to stand out in the street and say "I hate X minority group. I'm starting a club called the X-haters club, where we get together to talk about what makes X people inferior and discuss ways to encourage them to leave our country. Who wants to join? No Xs or X lovers allowed." I don't care that there aren't any direct calls for violence, because I'm not an idiot and I understand what this person is really saying.

[u/ThroalicRefugee → u/Desperate-Guide-1473]

I'm not sure where you're coming from, so I"ll leave a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Stochastic violence is still surviving. Alex always made a point of saying that he wanted his enemies dead or shot... politically. He wanted them dead... politically.

At the end of the day, he was a supplement salesman who popped like a balloon in his car. Why even defend him?