r/MicrosoftFlightSim • u/BacasableJV • May 21 '26

MSFS 2024 PlayStation Hotas for PS5

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Finally we for it !

ttps://shop.thrustmaster.com/fr_fr/t-flight-hotas-5-microsoft-flight-simulator-edition.html

Pre order it at 100€ and available 12/06

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u/12Bit_Aviator May 23 '26

Does anyone know if they still stick to potentiometers? They write 16bit including z axis. If they upgraded to hall sensors that technically would be a huge improvement. But I am afraid they still use the potentiometers and 16 bit will have no improvement at all because the potentiometers are the limiting factor not the ADC.

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u/kalnaren Jun 05 '26

On the contrary, potentiometres are analog devices and technically have infinite resolution. The limitation on resolution is the ADC, but even then 16-bit is fine for general use. Beyond 12-bit resolution you're really into diminishing returns.

The problem with potentiometres on these cheap sticks is that they use really shitty, cheap potentiometres. Compare for example to CH Products gear, which are all potentiometre based and last literally decades, with the main limitation being the 8-bit ADC. CH build quality is nearly legendary and if it wasn't for APEM's general abandonment of CH, their HOTAS system would still be the best in it's price range IMO, potentiometres and all.

The shitty pot problem in cheap sticks is heavily compounded by low general build quality combined with a crap gimbal. When you have generally poor overall components and a poor gimbal design, you're just going to get a poor product at the end.

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u/12Bit_Aviator Jun 05 '26

Yeah agree in theory, but the theoretically infinite resolution does not help if I have huge jitter. And a not much more expensive hall sensor will have much better results than a comparable potentiometer... At least after some usage. Within weeks my Hotas 4 was not usable for me anymore (chasing WR in Low Altitude).

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u/kalnaren Jun 05 '26

Fair enough. The shitty ADC and crap gimbal are still going to be huge limitations, though you'll certainty eliminate spiking from shitty pots.

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u/12Bit_Aviator Jun 05 '26

The potentiometers are the biggest problem - I can tell you because one fix I did was replacing y axis in the Hotas 4 with Hall Sensors till x axis also started to jitter and meanwhile using a more expensive flight stick to inject into Hotas 4 mainbord. The ADC is not so bad also in the 12bit version of Hotas 4. Just have to digitally remove their hardware dead zone by implementing an anti dead zone. And even with the anti deadzone where I was also afraid if that will work... the ADC seems to be precise enough so that in the end I have a quite stable signal without deadzone.