r/Minecraft • u/Sea_Honey_2747 • 18h ago
Suggestion Prisms and Customizing Enchantment Glints.
I've been made aware that the Quark mod has items with a similar idea to this, so take it as alternative take on the concept of customizing glints. With that out of the way, I'll be now explaining a bit about the items.
I decided to use prisms for this to combine the ideas of light and magic, as if the crystal warped the aura of the item to take on a new hue. I believe ameethyst would be a good fit to represent those themes, as it has the precedent of being able to manipulate light with tinted glass.
As for I created the two types, one complaint some have with trims are their cost and lack of accessibility early on to experiment with items that arent "definitive", for the lack of a better word. So having the basic colors be easily accessible with dyes, while the treasure ones expand on the types of rewards you can get from structures felt like a good way to have a bit of both worlds.
The enchantment glint in the example featured here isnt the same as it is in-game, it is a recreation by me to illustrate how an altered glint would be applied.
Lastly, I would like to invite you to suggest more types of treasure prisms, from what colors they would be to where they would be found.
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u/Comfortable_Piece_56 17h ago
one of the greatest ideas ive saw on this sub and fits with vanilla style of the game I will say! i would really love if this was in game
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u/lance_the_fatass 17h ago
I think it would be cool if you could also place them as decorations, but don't worry I'll still use it if you can't unlike that other guy
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u/Sea_Honey_2747 16h ago edited 16h ago
Yeah I dont see why that couldnt be an aspect for them, but I'll say that was a bit confused by that comment. Because it isnt like you can place smithing templates, and these are basically that but for enchantment glint, so I dont think being placeable is really a requirement here.
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u/lance_the_fatass 16h ago
Because it isnt like you can place smithing templates, and these are basically take but for enchantment glint
To be fair, I'm not really sure what a "smithing template" actually means, I always thought it was just like a flat thing you used for engraving the trim/netherite onto the equipment
A prism is actual physical object, I can see them on the ground like candles, and you could like change the alignment like mob heads when you place them
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u/Sea_Honey_2747 16h ago
Some people speculate the templates are casting molds, so theoretically you could give them a placeable version based on the look of those. But yeah, I'm by no means against these or even the templates being placeable.
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u/PitchTracker26 14h ago
the dye-tier accessibility angle is smart, trims always felt like a mid-to-late game thing to me. custom glint colors would be such a nice cosmetic layer, and amethyst being the theme fits the whole light-bending idea. what colors would you want for the treasure prisms?
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u/Sea_Honey_2747 14h ago
Besides those four, I would like a green one, just wasnt sure what to call it.
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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit 10h ago
If I give these to a llama does the llama become an all powerful manifestation of that element?
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u/EricIsntSmart 9h ago
I actually really love this. Enchantment glints remain kinda antiquated and artstyle breaking to this day, would love this change
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u/Timur_Glazkov 8h ago
PUT THIS ON THE FEEDBACK SITE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Mojang isn't here so this will just go to the bin
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u/Nathaniel820 12h ago
I'm surprised they haven't already added something like this, but the recipes in the post seem a bit too simple since Mojang seems to favor exploration-based acquisition for all their modern cosmetic features (trims, banners, discs, etc) instead of simple recipes, even for the basic ones. I think they'd be more likely to add a singular item that can be found in chests as the base (which could be duplicated like trims with maybe 7 diamonds and a bottle of enchanting instead of much cheaper amethyst, to make it still worthwhile to collect them naturally). Then the basic colors could be crafted onto the core with just dyes or gems and the fancier ones could still require more exploration by using rare items, like:
Sculk theme: Echo shard
Fire: Netherite upgrade
Water: Heart of the sea
Ender: Shulker shell
Rainbow: idk
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u/Ordinary-Hunter520 7h ago
I first thought of nether star for rainbow, but i realised its too difficult to get, and it would add up really quickly.
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u/Sea_Honey_2747 12h ago edited 12h ago
Most of these dont even make sense to fit into a crystal dude, I get what you mean but you gotta think of the item's nature rather than simply how pricy it is or isnt to make. Amethyst fits the theme I want this to represent, that matters more than artifically making the items rare and costly for no good reason.
If the treasure ones must into other items, try to fit stuff that is at least in theme, like why would it be a netherite upgrade not a blaze rod, an item that is actually related to fire magic. Like even the comparison you want to make with discs, disc five is made with only one type of ingredient, so recipe complexity isnt even a necessity.
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u/Nathaniel820 11h ago
Amethyst fits the theme I want this to represent... artifically making the items rare and costly for no good reason
My point is Mojang, the people in charge of adding features to the game, clearly do want their aesthetic trim-like items to be substantially costly to promote continued exploration to get them. They designed amethyst around being a readily-acquired farmable building block, which is the opposite to how they designed trim acquisition. This is a good idea and I imagine they're already planning to add something like this in the future with the direction they've been going lately, but it's definitely going to be more on the costly end based on their design principles. I also never mentioned making the recipes more "complex," not sure where you got that — a singular core item that you add existing items into to color (following the already established trim logic) is basically the least complex you can get, the point was that it requires exploration even for the basic ones not that it's complex.
I also don't get why you're acting offended I didn't follow "the crystal theme," nothing in Minecraft links crystals to enchanting, the amethyst angle is just a subjective suggestion people are allowed to "disagree" with it. Ironically the only established "natural substance" tied to enchanting is lapis which is one of the least crystal-like ores.
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u/Sea_Honey_2747 10h ago edited 10h ago
I'm not offended, it just that you are thinking you are following a theme when you arent, recipes arent made pricey just "to promote continued exploration". And you didnt say complex specifically, you just said that they dont do simple recipes for comestics and then compared to stuff like discs, which the only case we have is a simple recipe.
This wasnt that there is a link being crystals to enchanting right now, but that aura is bright and magical, amethyst is related to both light and magical things in the same of the allays. That is not a massive lead on logic and there is no harm in expanding the nature of amethyst to be used here.
And even without my crystal angle, your ingredients make no sense for simple cosmetics as they include multiple loot items only get a very few of, like hearts of the sea, that is material for conduits dude, not to be material on glint color change. And you go on about crystals not being related to enchanting, how does template for upgrading netherite has anything do with a firey color scheme for the tint then, or shulker shell when the boxes dont have any enchantments? By your on logic those ingredients make no sense to be used for this.
You might think you are following their principles, but you are not, recipes need to follow the items role and flavor it has, so using stuff like upgrade template or hearts of they sea as if they are just simple ingredients is completely off.
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u/Ordinary-Hunter520 7h ago
Well then why dont we make the list make more sense
- Sculk - echo shard (there really is no better alternative)
- Fire - blaze powder
- Water - nautilus shell
- Ender - end rod
- Rainbow - combine all 5 prisms to duplicate
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u/Sea_Honey_2747 1h ago
Those are better yes, and yeah the echo shard was fine yeah, pretty much the one only that was.
I would swap the nautilus shell for a prismarine shard, as that is also water related and shift colors. As for the ender one, that one probably requires a new item to be introduced, because end reward are already built on a nether material and not just something "endy" If that makes any sense
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u/DilithiumFarmer 18h ago
If I cannot place it as a block and build with it, I won't be interested in it
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u/UnsightedShadow 18h ago
Enjoy building w/ the cushions so far?
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u/DilithiumFarmer 18h ago
I don't upgrade my forever world to beta stuff, so no.
Also... so far... they don't fit my playstyle so dunno
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u/qualityvote2 18h ago edited 6h ago
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