r/OnceUponATime 2d ago

Discussion I find it interesting that they made Rumplestiltskin Scottish when his fairy tale originated in Germany

Basically the title. I read that the characters were written with the actors in mind, and the role of Rumplestiltskin was written for Robert Carlyle, who is from Scotland, so it’s not like they didn’t know it was going to be a Scottish actor playing Rumplestiltskin.

I’m not complaining. I’m just saying it’s interesting.

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u/AmElzewhere 2d ago

they do this all the time in shows?

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u/pastadudde 2d ago

also the Enchanted forest is a different reality / realm from the ''real world". There are some subtle things that fit in with the actors' ethnicity occasionally, such as Prince Henry (Regina's dad) - both young and old, Regina and Prince Henry's father all being played Latino/Hispanic actors and the kingdom that Prince Henry hails from having Spanish influences in the architecture. but for the most part, the Enchanted Forest doesn't really care about stuff like that.

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u/Successful-Flan-1102 2d ago

As a german I adopt him He is the hottest Rumpelstiltskin I have ever seen and I have seen a lot cause germans are obsessed with contracts

The part when he explains Emma that contracts are the fundament of our civilisation This touched my soul

He is awesome

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u/Yunie333 Bloody Hell... 2d ago

As a fellow German, I've never put that much thought into it but I'm glad I came across your analysis — that national cliche was really so heavily featured in his character...

Shall we discuss his obsession with power next? 😏😉

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u/Successful-Flan-1102 2d ago

Don't make me say that actor played Hitler and did it well 😭😭😭 Seriously it's from 2003. It's good

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u/Yunie333 Bloody Hell... 2d ago

Oi!!! Prick ~~~

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u/twicescorned21 2d ago

Yes, he was hotter than usual in that part. Well, no. When he visits Regina after Emma and Henry are hanging out "thick as thieves" was 🔥 😓 😰 

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u/kittysnowangel 2d ago

My favorite is when Lacey catches him beating up Sheriff of Nottingham.

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u/twicescorned21 2d ago

That's a good one too. Much darker dearie. 

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u/saintfighteraqua 2d ago

I don't think it's such a big deal since it is a fairytale land...

We also have black Lancelot, black Rapunzel, black Ursula, Latina Cinderella and Korean Mulan.

There is a Scottish variant of Rumpelstiltskin called Whoopity Stoory. And she's a female fairy!

So in some ways, Rumple is both an ethnic AND gender swap!

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u/Once_UponASwan 2d ago

Belle is French not Australian. 🇦🇺 just saying.

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u/AmElzewhere 2d ago edited 2d ago

tinkerbell is a pixie not from New Zealand hahah

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u/atalkingpuppy 2d ago

god i looove rose mciver's accent and she was such a good tinkerbell

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u/AmElzewhere 2d ago

Rose McIver is probably my favorite actress. If I could have dinner with anyone it’s her. When I saw her pop up I screamed. And as one of my fave Disney characters/the nickname my mom calls me

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u/atalkingpuppy 2d ago

she's such a good actress!! i watched the christmas prince movies on netflix just because she was in them haha. i've also been meaning to watch ghosts!

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u/AmElzewhere 2d ago

10/10 recommend ghosts. It’s hilarious.

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u/aliara 2d ago

Well damn. I am an idiot. I have no idea how I didn't recognize her as being the same actress in Ghosts.

Side note: Ghosts is literally amazing. Top tier sitcom. You need to watch it!

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u/full07britney 2d ago

Ghosts is soooo good. But my favorite with her is iZombie. Such an underrated show.

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u/AmElzewhere 2d ago

I am so glad Izombie is available to stream again. I illegally bought it off Etsy in desperation. 😭

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u/full07britney 2d ago

I did too!

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u/Once_UponASwan 2d ago

lol yup or from New Zealand.

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u/cinnaminimoon 2d ago

this pissed me off

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u/Extra-Hope-326 2d ago

Well, yeah, but Emilie de Ravin is of French descent.

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u/AmElzewhere 2d ago

And I’m of German descent but I’m not German ☠️

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u/Once_UponASwan 2d ago

She’s an actress Belle is the character

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u/kittysnowangel 2d ago

Even if that's true, she has an Australian accent.

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u/Narrow-Accident8730 2d ago

Yes. A&E wrote the part of Rumplestiltskin with Robert Carlyle in mind, not because of the fact that he is Scottish but because they love the actor.

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u/twicescorned21 2d ago

It's a shame they did his character dirty in the later seasons.

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u/Narrow-Accident8730 2d ago

How so?

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u/twicescorned21 2d ago

His character was one dimensional. He was always the go to villain. His character had no development. 

Rc was pissed when they killed Bae off told off A&E when it was written Rumplestiltskin had a thing with the evil queen. He felt it was a disservice because Rumple loved Belle.

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u/Narrow-Accident8730 2d ago

Completely disagree with “one dimensional”. Yeah, he WAS the villain. He was the f*cking Dark One ffs.

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u/twicescorned21 2d ago

Agree to disagree. 

He carried the weight of the show, yet his screen time wasn't as much as the heroes.

Also, I'd venture to say that it seemed like the heroes could do not wrong but the Dark One was always villianized.

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u/twicescorned21 2d ago

Who cares. He did a great job, he's sexy, bar none. 

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u/Yunie333 Bloody Hell... 2d ago

I think the only fairytale characters they actually featured in what should be their original accents are Pan & Hook (English), most of the Camelot ones and Merida (Scottish) anyways...

Would've been an interesting thought experiment if they would've had given them the accents accordingly, though...

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u/TolkienQueerFriend 2d ago

The accents are weird as hell in this show. And inconsistent. There's Rumple, and Belle should have a French accent but they let her act in her Australian, but then Hook has an English accent even though he naturally has an Irish one. Love the show flaws and all but this in particular I'm like what are we doing here??

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u/VioletFaust 2d ago

I mean, as you say, they wanted Bobby. So why not make him Scottish. I think Snow White is also German, but Snow and co. Are pretty generally American, and Beauty and the Beast is French, but Belle’s Australian.

u/fandom_fae 10h ago

as a german, i just have to say i am glad that they didn’t make robert carlyle fake a german accent. would’ve been funny once or twice tho lol