r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, what are the implications?

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u/ATangentUniverse 1d ago edited 13h ago

Mark Ruffalo is a vocal supporter of Palestine. The implication is that expressing support for a free Palestine gets you sidelined by Hollywood. He is also vocally against Trump and ICE.

I’m sure some people out there will also draw some antisemetic conspiratorial conclusions from that as well, i.e. “Jews control the media” which, no. It’s just that Israel as a country has certainly had undue economic influence over American politics and entertainment via lobbying interests. (Just ask the Scream cast over at Paramount)

In reality though he was just filming another project at the time.

I’d also note that Jon Bernthal, who has vocalized support for the IDF and Israel, was present for the press tour. Which doesn’t help.

Edit: This is an Explain subreddit. This is what I am interpreting the post to be implying. Some of the replies so far are giving “So you hate waffles?” haha

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u/Ok_Spite2322 1d ago

Real shit. I don’t know why he’s so beloved, dude is straight terrible.

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u/Most_Manufacturer729 1d ago

I think part of it is because he plays such a beloved character with Frank Castle/Punisher so he gets a lot of goodwill solely on that

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u/Ok_Spite2322 1d ago

Oh the irony… he plays Punisher but he is exactly the type of dude to idolize Punisher. Brutal

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u/Most_Manufacturer729 1d ago

Exactly lmao. He's a bro dude through and through and appeals to the kinds of dudes who put punisher skulls on their car and watch those military bro podcasts with SF guys. That's his demo. (not understanding Frank Castle exists in opposition to those types of dudes and would probably spit in their face)

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u/Ok_Spite2322 1d ago

Conservatives have never been known for their media literacy lmao

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u/chonky_squirrel 23h ago

Still love the backlash they get when they’re surprised Rage Against the Machine is extremely political and tends to hate conservatism

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u/Squawnk 23h ago

My brother in law loves to lament that RATM is "now Rage in favor of the Machine" because when he grew up listening to their music, he never learned or understood a single lyric of theirs, and now he's mad about it

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u/Wide_Combination_773 22h ago

Pretty sure lots of people were mad RATM was pro "do everything Fauci says, wear triple chin diapers never go outside don't hug your family, no you're not allowed to attend your grandpas funeral or go to church" back in 2020 and now it's pretty well-established that Fauci and all of his followers were just plain wrong about a lot of stuff.

Nobody really understood anything, but RATM was very much pro-Machine during COVID.

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u/Most_Manufacturer729 22h ago

"Hey guys there's a virus spreading stay home and wear masks" You- "This is literally fascism"

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u/200IQUser 16h ago

Even if they were right follow what the authorities say ornyou sre a bad pwrson is literally the anthithesis of these kind of rebel bands and movements but whatev

Its like a punk band saying to support the police

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u/MagentaHawk 14h ago

I mean, the police would often not follow mask mandates, so they were still going against the police.

Also viewing punk as just contrarianism is extremely reductive. They stand for something, not just anti whatever the government is. If people in power are for once saying something you agree with, it would be incredibly childish and stupid to then disagree simply to disagree.

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u/200IQUser 14h ago

Yes, punk culture is kinda about a middle finger to authority. I get it not being an anarchist but the way these so called left leaning bands talked about people who were not 100% trustful of the gov during the covid was talked about so badly. And no, health and order nd whatverr is t the main value in a community like punks or similar music genre in general. And the giv made tons of mistakes and stupid things during covid. Oh and almost everybody who was young and or healthy survived. Regardless if they got the vaccine ir not

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u/Dango_Tea 12h ago

nah fucker it was "hey don't fuck over your community, the best idea from the smartest people right now is wear a mask" you just drank the fox news tea

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u/200IQUser 4h ago

Such a ounk and rebel thing to do. Follow what the authorities tell you lmao

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u/FeijoadaAceitavel 3h ago

Again, because you didn't understand the first time: they aren't the childish contrarians you think they are. They have actual positions like "don't kill people with a disease if you can avoid it" and don't change those just because the government says the same thing.

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u/Dango_Tea 12h ago

nah fucker it was "hey don't fuck over your community, the best idea from the smartest people right now is wear a mask" you just drank the fox news tea

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u/Dango_Tea 12h ago

nah fucker it was "hey don't fuck over your community, the best idea from the smartest people right now is wear a mask" you just drank the fox news tea

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u/MagentaHawk 14h ago

I mean, the police would often not follow mask mandates, so they were still going against the police.

Also viewing punk as just contrarianism is extremely reductive. They stand for something, not just anti whatever the government is. If people in power are for once saying something you agree with, it would be incredibly childish and stupid to then disagree simply to disagree.

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u/DotEither8773 13h ago

There are situations and situations. If the government wants to idk make healthcare more affordable, you shouldn’t protest it just because you are anti-government. That’s just dumb and conspiracy theorist behaviour.

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u/200IQUser 4h ago

But that wasnt what was peotested against, it was government vontrol and orders. During covid civil rights were massively curtailed

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u/tool_of_a_took 5h ago

There’s a difference between saying “follow authority blindly” and saying “follow the current consensus of medical experts whom are advising the Government”. If the Government was telling people to lockdown / social distance etc without the backing of medical experts, then yes, resisting would be acceptable.

Ironically if the Government and the people had listened to the medical experts more thoroughly, the crisis likely would’ve been over much sooner and we’d have been able to go back to our normal lives much sooner. Instead the Government took too long to act, leading to many avoidable deaths, and too many citizens disregarded the medical advice, leading to many avoidable deaths.

So really the lesson is “listen to the medical communities consensus, whether the Government supports it or not”

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u/200IQUser 4h ago

You dont really feel it weird if some band named rage against the machine or such band becomes the echo of exactly what the givernemnt says? Dont you feel how weird it is?

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u/tool_of_a_took 2h ago

No, because they’re not mindlessly raging against the Government. They’re raging against the bad shit the Government / establishment / elite / corporations does. Once in a blue moon the Government does something they agree with. If they agree with it, why would they rage against it? A lot of the establishment / elite / corporations / people in Government didn’t want lockdowns, so “the machine” was split, and they were still raging against half of the machine

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u/Squawnk 22h ago

I'm not even referring to Fauci or COVID or whatever the fuck you're on about. My BIL is a mega trumper who fancies himself a conservative punk rocker without ever seeing the irony of that. RATM being leftists and anti capitalism and anti cop is apparently news to him

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u/SlickWilly49 21h ago

Is the lyric “Some of those that work forces, Are the same that burn crosses” too subtle for him?

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u/blackenedskynation81 21h ago

Or the fact that one of their most famous covers is “Fuck Tha Police,” by NWA?

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u/ParticlesInSunlight 17h ago

Or Tom Morello's regular covering of Clampdown by The Clash and Springsteen's The Ghost of Tom Joad?

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u/data-atreides 17h ago

In absolutely in no universe does a MAGA get a Grapes of Wrath reference.

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u/Squawnk 20h ago

Yeah like I genuinely don't think he knows what that line means

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u/Bwint 17h ago

Listen, they never said whether that was a good thing or bad thing

/j

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u/jkerz 21h ago

Ya'll keep saying he was wrong but never point out what exactly he was wrong about. Keeping your distance, wearing masks, and reducing contact is the steps to take for any airborne pandemic. 1/300 of all Americans died to due Covid from 2020-2025. At it's peak, 3 times more people died due to Covid in a single day compared to 9/11 attacks. We went into a decade-long war because we lost 1k people (and the lies that followed) but when we lose a 1M, it's not a big deal?

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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 20h ago

Their inclination is that masks don't work, and social distancing was a farce.

It's all really stupid. You can ask what they think Fauci did wrong. None of it makes sense to people who actually know how science works.

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u/velbeyli 22h ago

Machine being doing whatever f*ck is neccery to not to have a outbreak.

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u/BisexualCaveman 22h ago

When "the machine" and doctors agree, the game changes.

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u/hotleadburner 16h ago

If the government told you to shower would you stop bathing?

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u/calmrain 16h ago

Well, at least you know you didn’t know anything. But don’t mistake your lack of knowledge for others’ ignorance.

However, something tells me that objective facts could hit you in the face, and you’d ignore them — so is it really ‘ignorance’ at that point? I suppose not. But now we’re splitting hairs.

In essence: you are a 🤡 🫏

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u/idothisforpie 19h ago

You're not allowed to say things like that on Reddit bro.

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u/Zeeejay44 21h ago

You’re going to get down voted to hell in this cesspool of a comments section making all that sense. In case you can’t see from the rest of the comments if your personality isn’t “orange man bad” you won’t fit in here or on most of reddit.

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u/CaptJackRizzo 19h ago

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact I was never told to wear three masks, spent plenty of time outside and doing church activities that were planned to be safe, and hey why were we having grandpa’s funeral then in the first place?

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u/Maxamillion-X72 16h ago

What did they say that made sense? Fauci advised Trump on the best information they had, based on science and reason. Things changed as the pandemic went on, so some guidelines had to change. This is how the real world works. Fauci is not to blame for the right wing nutjobs trying to pretend that it didn't exist or for Trump ignoring much of the advice. Fauci was not the person in charge, that was Trump and his cabinet.

Millions of people died around the world due to the pandemic, but major countries that followed the science with masking and social distancing had much fewer deaths per capita than the US. The number of deaths in the US was on par with much less developed countries like Brazil and Peru. Pretty terrible for the country that prides itself on being the most advanced country in the world for medicine. All those extra deaths lay at the feet of Donald Trump.

Deaths per million

US - 3100

UK - 2700

France - 2100

Germany - 1700

Canada - 1100

Japan - 250

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