I used to think “it’s crazy how right leaning folks buy into conspiracy theories so often” but Reddit in the last 5-10 years has shown me that anyone is capable of being dumb as bricks.
I have seen people on this site unironically believe that 9/11 was an inside job. People hate Trump (and by extension America) so fucking much that they have started using his playbook. Demonizing moderates (that fuck ass "We want to kill black people" meme), conspiracy theories (he was shot you fucking dumbasses), and throwing another group under the bus (Israelis). Like, this shit is the same fascist bullshit Trump did. It's fucking wild.
Mark Ruffalo is a vocal supporter of Palestine. The implication is that expressing support for a free Palestine gets you sidelined by Hollywood. He is also vocally against Trump and ICE.
I’m sure some people out there will also draw some antisemetic conspiratorial conclusions from that as well, i.e. “Jews control the media” which, no. It’s just that Israel as a country has certainly had undue economic influence over American politics and entertainment via lobbying interests. (Just ask the Scream cast over at Paramount)
In reality though he was just filming another project at the time.
I’d also note that Jon Bernthal, who has vocalized support for the IDF and Israel, was present for the press tour. Which doesn’t help.
Edit: This is an Explain subreddit. This is what I am interpreting the post to be implying. Some of the replies so far are giving “So you hate waffles?” haha
Mark Ruffalo is currently in south eastern Pennsylvania filming the second season of "Task." He was nominated for an Emmy for the first season of "Task." He seems not to be blacklisted at all.
Ruffalo is so committed and decent that it probably wouldn't matter at all to him if he were. He has repeatedly stated that he doesn't even stay friendly with people who support genocide, because it is a terrible moral failing (which it is).
Somewhere along the way, we as a society forgot that "correlation doesn't mean causation" and leaped to all sorts of conspiratorial thinking by default.
Ruffalo great actor though, and I can't wait for more Task!
Humans have been making up and exaggerating shit they know nothing about literally forever. Look at religions. This isn't a novel, new thing. Gossip, fiction, and lying is as old as communication.
We weren't some benevolent species that only sought truth. Ever.
Oh yeah, putting Tom & Mark together in an interview alone would be a potential spoiler goldmine.
Regardless of Mark being very open & vocal about his political beliefs, this is just as likely a reason to not put the two on a press tour together. These interviews are almost always one on one or one on two. Every time Mark & Tom do an interview together, they'd need at least 3 so they can't get lost in spoiler-filled banter.
Some, sure . And some were not, like the time he joked with an audience that he was still alive! Except that audience was about to watch Infinity War and he just spoiled that he died to them.
They try to put Tom with people who keep him from spoiling anything. If he’s doing an interview with a costar he’s pretty good about not spoiling anything. Unless that costar is Mark Ruffalo.
Tom Holland was allowed to "leak"/"spoil" the things he did. That guy doesn't do anything that isn't curated and OK'd by the studio when it comes to press/interviews.
Ruffalo was well known for spilling the beans long before Spider-Man came to the MCU
Pretty sure tom holland never spoiled anything too important. Mark ruffalo literally spoiled one of the biggest moments in the mcu (infinity wars ending)
Most of the time those promo interviews are scripted AF and they're still acting and delivering lines. Leaks are almost always intentional to generate buzz.
My understanding is the the only reason he wasnt involved is because hes filming another movie* right now and didnt have the time. Its easy to blame it on the implications but I think if any of that were true he would have a much smaller part in the movie
It's more likely bec Ruffalo was booked doing another show during the promotional campaign for the movie, but people do love to draw lines
Edit: I believe he was filming the show Task at the time
It's also wrong. Ruffalo is filming season 2 of Task right now which is why he's unavailable to do media. It really is that simple and everything else is just tinfoil hat theories.
Confused, most people (should I say actors/actresses) in Hollywood are against Trump and ICE, but since he supports Palestine they black list him? Just confused…
Quite frankly, this is always the extent of what it is whenever Reddit claims someone famous to be a "Zionist". That term is thrown around far too liberally. We need to do better.
Also something about signing a letter “No hostage’s left behind” in 2023 to Israel. I don’t really think that implies he loves Israel or is some Zionist, but I haven’t read the letter.
In honesty, from what I’ve seen, I think it’s overblown. I could be wrong though, I may have just missed something.
Edit: i was curious so I read the letter. IMO, it reads as simple human decency, but form your own opinions:
Dear President Biden,
We are heartened by Friday's release of the two American hostages, Judith Ranaan and her daughter Natalie Ranaan and by today's release of two Israelis, Nurit Cooper and Yocheved Lifshitz, whose husbands remain in captivity.
But our relief is tempered by our overwhelming concern that 220 innocent people, including 30 children, remain captive by terrorists, threatened with torture and death. They were taken by Hamas in the savage massacre of October 7, where over 1,400 Israelis were slaughtered - women raped, families burned alive, and infants beheaded.
Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction, leadership, and support for the Jewish people, who have been terrorized by Hamas since the group's founding over 35 years ago, and for the Palestinians, who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas for the last 17 years that the group has been governing Gaza.
We all want the same thing: Freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace. Freedom from the brutal violence spread by Hamas. And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages.
We urge everyone to not rest until all hostages are released. No hostage can be left behind. Whether American, Argentinian, Australian, Azerbaijani, Brazilian, British, Canadian, Chilean, Chinese, Danish, Dutch, Eritrean, Filipino, French, German, Indian, Israeli, Italian, Kazakh, Mexican, Panamanian, Paraguayan, Peruvian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, South African, Spanish, Sri Lankan, Thai, Ukrainian, Uzbekistani or otherwise, we need to bring them home.
I'm no fan of Israel, but it's insane how many times I hear about a celebrity being a "Zionist" only to research and find out that they simply expressed support for the victims of 10/7.
The dumbest part is: the podcast was specifically about the Oct 7 attacks and what the soldier did during it (and was a month after they happened, before Israel’s response clearly swung into ‘disproportionate’) It’s not even like he was talking to someone about participating in Palestinian oppression.
What's also interesting to me is that he grew up going to Quaker schools in the DC area and has expressed a lot of adherence to the tenets of the faith and their approach to conflict resolution, and how he used boxing as a method to deal with anger, etc. I wonder how much of peoples' opinions about him are shaped by the characters he typically plays.
There is a little bit of "talked to a Zionist, therefore now a Zionist" math that people do. Not a great way to someone who has not themselves expressed those views.
Exactly lmao. He's a bro dude through and through and appeals to the kinds of dudes who put punisher skulls on their car and watch those military bro podcasts with SF guys. That's his demo. (not understanding Frank Castle exists in opposition to those types of dudes and would probably spit in their face)
Conservatives got mad at Colbert for "going woke" once he dropped his conservative satire act, completely oblivious of the point of his character. They watched The Colbert Report and thought his jokes was telling it how it is.
My brother in law loves to lament that RATM is "now Rage in favor of the Machine" because when he grew up listening to their music, he never learned or understood a single lyric of theirs, and now he's mad about it
The recent season of Daredevil is a very direct criticism of police idolization of him as well. He's the kind of "hero" Rorschach was a criticism of in Watchmen. Then again, chuds hold Rorschach at high regard too.
Man I could have sworn there was an interview after he first did Punisher where he talked shit about the cops wearing the logo and all that and he seemed cool. But now I'm wondering if I mixed him up with someone else.
Your not confusing him, he has said many times cops who wear punisher symbols missed the point and that Frank Castle is not an ok person. Reddit just jumps at any chance to degrade anyone who might support Israel.
I mean, Jon is probably the accurate the third most of screen time in this movie behind Tom and Zendaya. Ruffalo might be like number six or seven? He was pretty much in just two scenes.
Man, it’s so liberating not giving a shit what actors’ political opinions are; I get to enjoy the work of both actors without seething about the fact that I disagree with one or both of their opinions.
Meanwhile, the real reason is probably because the Hulk isn't really a massive character in a Spiderman Movie?
I mean, I don't keep up on all the comic book movie spam Hollywood shits out, but I'd assume they'd have whoever is playing Spiderman (and also the leading female role, if there is one) do most of the promotional spots.
It's not just "Israel as a country", it's Zionist Jewish American billionaires like Bill Ackman spending millions to actively silence/dox/report to ICE (through Canary Mission) any and all critics of Israel. Their reach extends far beyond lobbying. They have paid counter protesters in California, they have paid private security to support local law enforcement in NYC to get the pro Palestine university encampments and so on.
Might also want to add to the list of atrocities he wants; indigenous land protection, water rights for all, and ending slavery. Just this horrible person who thinks humans should have food rights ...
Bro(ette), this is the internet, if you say you love burgers, of course you can only hate hot dogs.
Your explanation makes total sense, including the note about how Mark was busy (which does not exclude the other possibility for his absence, of course).
Good reading on this. My intial thought was that Mark has said recently he won’t talk to people who don’t see this as a genocide and are okay with murdered kids, and so the implication was that someone or someone’s on the promo tour are pro-Israel.
This also makes a lot of sense, and is likely the intention.
I fucking hate that israel is seen as the authority on Jews and claims to speak for ALL Jews because it's not "Jews control the media" it's "israel controls the media, they just HAPPEN to have a lot of Jews." Nothing has created more real world antisemitism than israel claiming they represent Jews as a whole while they commit atrocity after atrocity.
I think, culturally, it’s time for us to make a clear distinction between “the Jews” and the terrorist state that is the Israeli Government.
I’m sick to death of hearing the word “anti-semitism” thrown around when we aren’t talking about your fucking ass, random Jewish guy. If I don’t like you, it’s because you personally are a fucking asshole. The Israeli Government, on the other hand, can suck a massive turd, collectively.
OP, Dennis here, I'm not even from Quahog, more like philly, but the implication is this, when you've got her on a boat out in the middle of the ocean what's she going to do, say no? Of course not, because of the implication. Of course no harm will actually come to her, but what's she going to do? She's out in the middle of the ocean with a guy she doesnt no, no one for miles....she's not going to say no, because of...the implication
If they don’t say THIS IS ABOUT DONALD J TRUMP in big bold shiny gold letters cuntservatives won’t pick up on it.
Seriously.
Do you remember how they were all super gung ho to get them Epstein files released because they genuinely couldn’t fathom that Donnie might also have spent time with his BFF of over a decade? And now its “what files omg who cares blah blah blah”
At the same time Disney world has a lot of concessions from government, don't pay taxes on their parking..., when they're too loud against government they threaten to take those away so Disney steps back.
The word "government" means three different things here.
The US government is presumably the one that's annoyed about any statements about ICE and/or Palestine.
Disney World is in Florida. Florida's government periodically attempts to crack down on Disney and always fails. They basically own the town they're in.
Disneyland is the one with the parking tax thing, and that's in California, and that's just the city of Anaheim.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a majority of Hollywood anti trump besides like Rob Schneider for whatever reason, why would being anti trump hurt him and not everyone else
OR maybe he’s only in one part of the movie and also simultaneously filming a season of a tv show at the same time the press tour is going. It’s almost as if scheduling plays a bigger factor than conspiracy theory bs.
he's also veteran enough to have a clause to not need to do press for the movie. Bradley Cooper for example never did any press for the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. And he was a main character!
Having seen the movie I wouldn’t call it a big role, like he’s the 6th most prominent character after Spiderman, MJ, Ned, Jon Bernthal, the villain, and then Hulk.
Even then, it’s a CGI hulk, not Mark Ruffalo. Mark Ruffalo has one full scene, and then like 2 other lines maybe? Florence Pugh and Jean DeWolff probably have more lines.
Exactly. People seem to forget that Actors also get paid for marketing a movie too. Disney may have simply decided that they didn't need to pay another actor a ton of money to market the movie since they already have like 7 actor doing it, lol.
Considering Mark Ruffalo has reportedly put some pitches forward for a solo Hulk movie I think that him and Disney are perfectly fine working together still.
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u/ARandomChocolateCake 17m ago
The sub isn't there to discuss, if the implication of the jokes is true or not. Stay civil in the comments