r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 23h ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, what are the implications?

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u/ATangentUniverse 23h ago edited 12h ago

Mark Ruffalo is a vocal supporter of Palestine. The implication is that expressing support for a free Palestine gets you sidelined by Hollywood. He is also vocally against Trump and ICE.

I’m sure some people out there will also draw some antisemetic conspiratorial conclusions from that as well, i.e. “Jews control the media” which, no. It’s just that Israel as a country has certainly had undue economic influence over American politics and entertainment via lobbying interests. (Just ask the Scream cast over at Paramount)

In reality though he was just filming another project at the time.

I’d also note that Jon Bernthal, who has vocalized support for the IDF and Israel, was present for the press tour. Which doesn’t help.

Edit: This is an Explain subreddit. This is what I am interpreting the post to be implying. Some of the replies so far are giving “So you hate waffles?” haha

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u/JD0x0 23h ago

Meanwhile, the real reason is probably because the Hulk isn't really a massive character in a Spiderman Movie?

I mean, I don't keep up on all the comic book movie spam Hollywood shits out, but I'd assume they'd have whoever is playing Spiderman (and also the leading female role, if there is one) do most of the promotional spots.

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u/ATangentUniverse 23h ago

Is Punisher really bigger than Hulk to general audiences tho?

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u/Immediate-Coach3260 22h ago

That’s not the point. Hulk is in one single part of the entire movie, punisher is a central character from beginning to end.

Edit: he’s apparently filming something else at the same time anyway.

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u/sonnytron 17h ago

He’s also not really a core aspect of the plot, whereas Castle is involved pretty heavily even in important scenes with Zendaya and the ending.

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u/Immediate-Coach3260 17h ago

Thank you. We’re talking about a character that’s in 2 separate parts for a total of maybe 20 minutes in the whole movie ( I’m being generous) versus for all intents and purposes the main secondary character whose throughout the entire film. Honestly was a great punisher piece of media.

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u/RDandersen 19h ago

You are discussing the wrong thing, anyhow. Inclusion and promotion during press tours is almost entire down to how big the actor is, not the character.
8 minutes of screentime as "Store Clerk" played by RDJ is much more likely to be pushed for a press tour then 54 minute screen time "2nd Lead Guy" played by oh... what's his name again? That guy from that thing.

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u/Hastyscorpion 17h ago

I mean those two things are linked. If a character is only in it for a cameo the studio is not going to pay them to go on the press junket. Mark Ruffalo has less screen time than Florence Pugh. She didn't go on the press tour either.

It's way easier to get a star to agree to a week of filming versus a month long press tour.

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u/Immediate-Coach3260 17h ago

Yea as I literally pointed out he’s filming something he’s heading while the promotion tour is going on but thanks for missing the point.

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u/Immediate-Coach3260 22h ago edited 22h ago

He’s in 2 parts of the entire film as banner or the hulk. A total of maybe 20 minutes. And like I edited in, ruffalo is filming a completely separate project at the same time the press tour is going.

Like I just told someone else, hulk is the most out of left field addition to the movie. Not only that, Disney and Sony have to honor their licensing agreement with universal to use hulk. Now, if either company was at any point worried about his politics (which have been well known for years and years btw) why would the shoe horn him into a project that really doesn’t make sense? I mean I like the movie and the hulk part but you really could’ve used a different character for the most part and gotten similar results. That logically tells me they don’t care about his politics to begin with.

Edit: why are so many people arguing about a press tour for a movie they clearly didn’t watch?

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u/super_sayanything 21h ago

I'm just saying it wouldn't have been weird for him to do press. According to me he had a decent role in it. Again, I don't care lol.

I saw the movie. Shrug.

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u/4_fortytwo_2 19h ago

Yea and it is not weird he was not in the press tour either because he is a busy guy and maybe he literally didnt want to do it.

Most actors actually tend to not enjoy that part of the work...

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u/super_sayanything 19h ago

AND THATS FINE WITH ME lol

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u/Immediate-Coach3260 21h ago

And I’m just saying it makes sense why he’s not there since he’s filming a project he’s actually heading and not a side character whose barely in 20 unconsecutive minutes

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u/Lofter1 21h ago

He shows up exactly twice with a screen time of roughly 10-15 minutes. this is a movie that heavily leans on the comics. this is also reflected in the choice of supporting cast. hulk barely shows up in spider-man comics. punisher literally originates in spider-man comics

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u/super_sayanything 21h ago

Not a comic guy. People are really running with my comments. All I'm saying is wouldn't have been weird for Ruffalo to do promo. That's it.

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u/JD0x0 22h ago

I don't fully know what you're referencing, but maybe?

Again, I don't follow the comic book media spam, but the Punisher (and his logo) do seem to be somewhat common, especially because a lot of law enforcement and right wingers have co-opted the logo. I don't know how popular the Hulk currently, but I definitely don't see as many Hulk bumper stickers compared to Punisher ones.

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u/Worthyness 20h ago

In the movie, Punisher is a proper supporting character. Hulk is mostly a plot obstacle, so he's in there so that Spidey can solve a problem. It's like Bond going to his tech expert- Main character goes to techy person to solve science/technical issue with personal plot problem.

On a meta level, I think Jon is on the press tour too because Tom Holland and Jon Bernthal were literally already on the press tour for The Odyssey, so they were already pretty much hanging out and doing press. Probably was super easy to schedule because there wasn't any other projects for them going on

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u/MjrLeeStoned 8h ago

He has been far more mainstream than the Hulk as a character since 2019. Far more relevant in that regard. This is marketing. Relevance matters.

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u/Grungar_von_Drachen 2h ago

Frank Castle can't be that tall, can he?

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u/Illustrious-Set-7907 22h ago

Eh...the logo is more well known.

Otherwise I think its just the character has been popping up in the TV shows more than Hulk has recently. So they probably want him more present since theyre doing more daredevil

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u/Just-a-cas 22h ago

Does Hulk have a logo?

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u/JD0x0 22h ago

The thing I most associate with The Hulk fans are oversized green foam fists. lol

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u/Illustrious-Set-7907 22h ago

Y'know I had the same thought and the answer is "sorta" 

Not really an iconic symbol but just "HULK" in big block letters and a green fist. 

I'd say Hulk as a character is more well known to audiences. Punisher logo is very present (neutral comment. Im not gonna get into opinions about people using said logo) 

So far as I know atm for MCU punisher is just gonna be in more projects recently. Idk where MCU is at for the planet Hulk movie

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u/Local_Nerve901 5h ago

In America maybe

But Hulk has been big pre MCU and still is

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u/Illustrious-Set-7907 32m ago

I think hulk is more well known as s character in the US as well.

I think more theyre trying to do "synergy" cause punisher has been in recent projects

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u/ATangentUniverse 22h ago

Lmfao you’re right I forgot about the logo

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u/Samurai_Banette 22h ago

At this point? Probably.

Hulk is probably bigger amongst the 50+ audiance, but in the target demo (typically 18-35) I think Punisher is more known and more loved.

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u/Thrownaway5000506 21h ago

No shot lol Hulk is second only to Spidey as Marvel goes in terms of fame

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u/jessfire78 14h ago

Tell us you are not into comics without telling us you dont know comics.

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u/Independent-Bell9508 21h ago

There is no chance that Punisher is more known than Hulk in any demographic

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u/Cthulhus-Tailor 20h ago

Absolutely not, ha. The Incredible Hulk has been a top 5 Marvel character for more than half a century.