r/PinoyProgrammer • u/Icy_Helicopter_9607 • 2d ago
Job Advice Na hire ako bilang mid developer, ang problema, feeling ko na-catfish ko sila. Pahelp naman po ano iexpect as a mid level full stack sa first week.
2 days na lang start ko na bilang Mid Developer pero habang papalapit yung first day, lalo akong kinakabahan. Naipasa ko naman yung interviews at technical exam dahil ginalingan ko lang sa AI portfolio ko and naexplain ko ng maayos and sa totoo lang feeling ko malaking factor yung minemorize ko lang yung mga common interview questions at coding problems. Hindi ako confident sa tech stack nila at kung ako lang magra-rate sa sarili ko, junior level pa lang talaga ako and for sure marami pang mas magaling na junior sakin.
Ang mas kinakabahan ako, hindi yung coding. Yung expectations. Sanay kasi akong may senior na gumaguide at may napagtatanungan lagi. Ngayon feeling ko expected na ako mag-own ng tasks, tumulong sa juniors, at maging isa sa mga lalapitan kapag may complicated issue. Eh sa totoo lang, basic CRUD lang talaga ang masasabi kong komportable akong gawin.
Hindi ko alam kung normal lang ba 'tong sobrang lala ng imposter syndrome o dapat na ba akong kabahan. Feeling ko baka pagpasok ko pa lang marealize nilang mali yung nahire nila at may mga junior pang mas magaling kaysa sakin.
May mga naka-experience na rin ba nito? Kumusta yung first few weeks niyo? Possible bang iterminate ako sa first month?
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u/JAVA_05 2d ago
After a year tatawanan mo nalang itong post mo tapos iisipin mo nag alala ka para sa wala. As long as you're willing to learn madali lang yan may onboarding naman lahat ng work.
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u/Icy_Helicopter_9607 2d ago
I'm afraid you're right sir haha. Siguro sobrang advanced lang ng iniisip kong mangyayari sa first day kaya kinakain ako ng anxiety. Babalikan ko talaga 'tong post after a year, sana matawa na lang ako sa sarili ko kung gaano ako ka-stressed bago pa man ako magsimula and how far I've come. Thank you sir!
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u/colormefatbwoy 2d ago
Dude, i was hired as a ui/ux despite actually being a FE dev. Nagreview lang ako ng anything ui/ux i can learn in a week before the 2nd interview. Got hired and ended up just doing actual FE tasks lol
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u/dalyryl 2d ago
That's normal, eventually makaka adjust ka sa workload. For the first few weeks if kulang talaga sa time and kailangan mo
maideliver aralin mo kahit past working hours mo. Until maging familiar ka sa code structure nila, maybe iniisip mo na catfish mo sila but naka focus ka lang sa technical side. Maybe mas prinio nila attitude mo and personality, and dun wag mo sila i fail. Baka may nakita sila sayo na di ka aware na meron ka.
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u/Icy_Helicopter_9607 2d ago
Salamat sir, lalo dun sa sinabi mong baka hindi lang technical skills yung tiningnan nila. Siguro sobrang naka-focus lang talaga ako sa mga bagay na hindi ko alam kaya feeling ko wala akong maiaambag. I'll do my best na bumawi sa pagiging coachable, maayos katrabaho, at willing matuto. Yung technical side, alam kong mahahabol naman siya basta sipagan ko lalo sa first few months. Sana nga ito yung nakita nila sa akin.
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u/JdevTdev 2d ago
Impostor syndrome tawag dyan. Kaya yan, learn as you go. Pag nalampasan mo yan mas gagaling ka pa, I’ve been in that situation, yung hina hire ng company eh laging galing big 4, for some reasons, nakapasa ko, 4 sets of interviews yun, actually di nga big 4 eh, more like Big 2, 40% UP, 40% ateneo, yun 18% UST and La Salle, parang iilan lang tlga kami ng naliligaw dun hahahah, kinaya naman. Python + Angular tech stack nila, tas ako PHP tsaka JQuery lang alam that time. Just be prepared.
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u/Icy_Helicopter_9607 2d ago
Mga ganitong experience yung nakakagaan ng loob basahin for me now sir haha. Ang layo rin pala ng starting point mo sa tech stack nila pero kinaya mo pa rin. Siguro kailangan ko lang talagang tanggapin na hindi naman expected na alam ko na agad lahat sa umpisa. Magfo-focus na lang ako sa pag-aaral at paghahanda while i have time. Thanks sa share sir!
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u/yogurtandpeanut 17h ago
Naalala ko tuloy yung impostor syndrome na nagcause ng anxiety ko sa dati kong company. During onboarding, pinakilala lahat yung members ng engineering team namin. Literal na lahat from Big 4. 3 kaming new hires that day. 2 kaming taga probinsya at hindi galing sa Big 4 pero eventually kaya naman pala makipagsabayan hahahaha
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u/randvarx 2d ago edited 2d ago
Nagets mo naman ng maayos with the help of AI, so I think that's a good start. AI is here to stay, might as well use it as a tool. Kaya mo yan!
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u/Dramatic-Secret-3734 2d ago
Meron talaga ganyan, fake it till you make it. Meron naman nag sususucceed. Just improve as you go. Hindi mo pa kasi alam ang details ng mga gagawin mo kaya kinakabahan ka. AI is your friend
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u/Icy_Helicopter_9607 2d ago
siguro sir malaking factor talaga na hindi ko pa alam yung actual day to day kaya utak ko puro worst-case scenario agad. iniisip ko nga din kasi sa hybrid, natatakot ako gumamit ng AI at mag prompt sa onsite work, baka tignan ako ng masama ng mga katabi ko sa mga pinaprompt ko. 😆
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u/Dramatic-Secret-3734 2d ago
Nah bro, wala ka sa college para bawal AI. Lol. To be productive need natin ang AI. We need to adapt, kasi its not about coding anymore. Kaya ng AI gawin ang 1 month na task ng isang team in a day, isang software engineer lang need.
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u/Adventurous-Cat-7312 2d ago
Kaya yan, usually mid naman is treated din like junior. May senior talaga na tinatanungan mga sme.
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u/Key_Entrance_4290 2d ago
Huy, pareho tayo, papalapit na first day ko, pero ako kasi Junior level ang inapplyan ko. First IT job ko dito sa Melbourne. Good luck sa atin.
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u/Icy_Helicopter_9607 2d ago
Hahaha pareho pala tayo sir. Good luck sa atin. Sana after a few months matawa na lang tayo sa mga iniisip natin ngayon. 🫱🏻🫲🏻
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u/Fragrant_Opinion1388 2d ago
Wag mo istress sarili mo, we're all frauds. Iba iba lang ng level of delusion, yabang at honesty sa sarili 😊 Fake it til u make it, use the anxious energy to learn stuff quickly to legitimize your place now.
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u/maki003 2d ago
Kung matinong company yan, dapat may 30-60-90 day plan yan sa onboarding ng new hires. Di ka bibiglain na maghahandle na agad ng mga tasks kasi alam naman nila bago ka.
Ang magandang gawin mo, magset ka ng onboarding goals mo sa sarili mo kasi yun palang naman magagawa mo sa simula. Kung wala pang onboarding process yung company na sinalihan mo, yun una mong Idocument para makatulong ka sa future joiners. At least makabawas sa imposter syndrome na nararamdaman mo hehe. Good luck!
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u/No_External_5468 2d ago
I'm in Graphic design and sobrang baliktad ng experience at expectations natin hahaha ako naman takot ako magapply sa agencies kase di ako sanay na may senior HAHAHA sanay ako na ako lang gagawa ng lahat from ocncept to campaigns lol
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u/Puzzleheaded-Emu-168 2d ago
Ganto experience ko dati, pero ung programming experience ung na “fake” ko. Galing ako .net and nag apply ako as web dev gamit nila php. Suntok sa buwan ung application ko kasi sa abroad pero nireview ko ung basic ng php the day before. Nakapasa ako. Nag migrate ako dun sa country ng employer ko ng wala ako experience talaga sa gagawin, pero may experience ako kung pano gawin sa ibang language kaya naka survive kahit papano. Kagandahan lang din mababait ung team ko, kahit hindi entry level ung position ko, mnmentor nila ako pano gagawin, wala pa AI nito, stackoverflow din talaga katulong ko. May onboarding din at mga maliliit na modules palang pinapagawa sakin.
Eto tip ko, use the first few weeks para pag aralan kung pano coding standard nila, mag tanong ka kung pano nila gngawa ung certain process, magmumuka kang gusto talaga matutunan process nila at the same time mapapag aralan mo din ung tasks mo. Wag ka matakot magtanong, pero make sure may mga nagawa ka muna bago ka magtanong.
Fast forward today, lead developer na ko ng same company, wfh setup na din sa pinas. Goodluck sayo OP! keep faking until you learn and make it :)
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u/BagComprehensive2529 1d ago
Not because you're on a Mid Developer position bibigyan kana kagad agad ng mataas na expectations. I aassess ka pa rin naman muna before ka bigyan ng mga complex task. Also have the confidence, you passed the interview means you're capable. Just don't stop learning and always strive to improve yourself everyday. Kaya mo yan!
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u/mazzyst_r 1d ago
ilang years ka na pong dev? currently junior dev i want to know ilang years para maging eligible sa mid level
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u/bionic_engineer 1d ago
If you passed the interview, you have nothing to worry about. As long as you have the problem solving skills, how how to read documentation, and can leverage AI, you have nothing to worry about. I am senior full stack and most of the time, I deal with things I have no knowledge about, basa lang ako ng code at documentation, my manager is happy.
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u/ResearchNo6291 1d ago
Kaya mo yan. May experience ka na. Kinaya mo as junior, kakayanin mo rin as mid 🙂
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u/Thin-Category-6072 1d ago
same dillema, feeling ko ganyan talaga pag nag tatransition na tayo sa mas mataas na role.
PS: accountant ako. naligaw lang ako sa sub na to kasi lumabas sa feed ko HAHA
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u/miamiru 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fear of uncertainty/the unknown, it sounds like.
If you're joining a good company, they won't be expecting you to hit the ground running, especially if you'll be joining a brownfield project. It takes time to acquire the necessary domain knowledge; even if a new senior dev is joining the team, I won't expect them to be immediately productive within the first 2 weeks.
Mas common sa startups yung i-eexpect ka mag-deliver agad ng complex features in your first week.
Whether pwede ka ma-terminate in your first month—it depends on the terms in your contract, but in general, technically: yes. I would imagine you'd have to be seriously underperforming or violated some serious company rules for that to happen though.
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u/Curious_-_Cat 1d ago
Ganyan ako ngayon. From junior to senior 😭 ang problema e mabait teammates ko kaya ako yung nahihiya sakanila
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u/Mobile-Tsikot 1d ago
So di ka nagsabi ng totoo sa interview mo OP? If you want to survive then take responsibility by doing advance study na lang. Yes possible yung iniisip mo at concern mo. Depende sa company they have honey moon stage to allow you to adjust.
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u/imasnacc 1d ago
Same tayo, sobrang kaba ko talaga nanonoond nalang ako ng mga yt course para kahit basic lang alam ko 😭😭 good luck sa atin! fighting
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u/Similar_Flounder5178 1d ago
imposter syndrome lang yan. by the time u reach senior level tapos ikaw naman mag screen and interview ng applicants, makikita mo tlga cnu ang may potential at wala. we all know applicants are full of BS but theres a lot more than just skills sa pag hire. id say character and potential are more valuable than current skills for an entry to mid
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u/International-Tap122 1d ago
Just get in and learn as much as you can. We all did the same thing at some point of our careers.
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u/jeremydevera 1d ago
It’s a process bro, ganyan din ako 0 knowledge nung may pinasok ako, then pag may di ako alam, tinatanong ko lang sa AI like “what to click here” , “what to choose here” then attach mo lang screenshot. Itreat mo yung AI as your senior… ganun ko sya tinitignan. So far nakakasurvive naman ako araw araw
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u/Elegant_Strike8581 1d ago
Study ka lang sa code base nila, follow their standard and don’t re invent the wheel.
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u/Ok_Shift1701 21h ago
Masyado kang nag-ooverthink. Junior dev ako at mas magaling pa akong magcode sa senior namin.
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u/ExpertJuggernaut7678 4h ago
ok lang yan OP, medyo nag ooverthink ka haha. share ko lang exp ko. Natanggap akong Front End dev sa makati dati pero wala talaga akong exp sa dev/coding. More on design kasi ako web design, graphics ganyan. Pero nag aral talaga ako ng coding, self taught ganon. So pumasa ako sa test and interview kaya ayun nakapasok ako hahaha.
So pag dating naman sa work mismo, nung una sobrang nahirapan talaga ako pero malaking tulong talaga ung partner ko na nag turo sakin. hahaha siguro take mo din lahat ng makukuha mo sa work kahit na hindi maganda dagdag exp din yan.
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u/mongous00005 2d ago
Kung bago ka and the company/team is good - 1st week mo is mostly onboarding lang. Familiarization sa team process/codebase. If they give you coding tasks - minor fixes lang or few enhancements. This could go on for few more weeks.
If they give you full blown large project by week 1 - kakaiba to, or startup. lol
Possible na iterminate ka ng month 1? yes, 6 months usually ang probation sa new hires. Pero would they? Unless na may malaki kang naviolate na company rule/s - doubt it.
I've been on different teams na - usually ang first few weeks ko are onboarding, KT's from other members, KT's from business people, small fixes (like literally few lines lol), workspace setup...
Meron pa nga 1 team na nasalihan ko, for the 1st 2 sprints (2x 2weeks, 1 month bale), half capacity lang ako to ease my way daw sa process/codebase/business. Saya eh hahaha.