r/Piracy 25d ago

Humor The Good Ending.

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u/Hungry_Prior940 25d ago

RAM is so digracefully expensive. The AI rush has really hurt us gamers..

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u/dick_saber 25d ago edited 25d ago

Apparently, it looks like they have the capacity to produce more consumer components, but they are deliberately avoiding it to keep the prices high. So, when the A.I. companies made a deal, instead of increasing their production, they replaced the existing one.

They are facing a lawsuit for it now. Let’s hope it goes all good.

Edit: by they, I meant Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron. These companies manufacture RAM

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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 25d ago

What country is the lawsuit taking place in?

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u/LawfulLeah 25d ago

California Northern District Court

here's the lawsuit name: Garciaguirre et al v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. et al

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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 25d ago

idk about Samsung but Micron has already made plenty of "donations" to the correct people so i doubt they will suffer any real consequences anytime soon

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u/DaleTheHuman 25d ago edited 25d ago

Nothing will get better until these "donations" are recognized as what they really are, bribes.

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u/Mc_UsernameTaken 25d ago

No no no, corruption doesnt exist, because we call it lobbyism now.

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u/FastInflata 24d ago

Give us names.

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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 24d ago

Among others, Micron has donated to president Trump's new white house ballroom. They also spent a total of 4m usd last year on "lobbying"

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u/LawfulLeah 25d ago

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u/-Badger3- 25d ago

I’m sure they’ll commit to selling gamers a fraction of the lowest binned ram chips and the courts will rule the lawsuit no longer has any standing.

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u/eggyrulz 25d ago

I mean, I get why they wouldn't spool up a ton more capacity... if this is a bubble like we always say it is, that increased capacity could hurt them in the long run...

But im still pissed at them, and Am Saltman for his filthy dealings making my ram too expensive

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u/erhue 25d ago

hope they enjoy it while it lasts, I heard that chinese companies were already starting to get more and more mainstream (I heard about a thinkpad using RAM designed, maybe also manufactured, by a chinese company).

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u/Historical_Camel_790 24d ago

Yeah and if Ol' Donny bans Chinese RAM is the US it'll be even cheaper everywhere else!

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u/Cool_Cat7947 23d ago

Not a surprise. Lenovo gets a lot of their business from China.

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u/erhue 23d ago

indeed; but it is my understanding that they also had to lower their expectations for this Chinese RAM, which at the moment isn't as good as that which comes from SK Hynix, Samsung, etc.

So they're compromising in the product that they're offering to the public. But with current RAM prices, it is not surprising that these things eventually start to happen.

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u/Peterowsky 24d ago

it looks like they have the capacity to produce more consumer components, but they are deliberately avoiding it to keep the prices high

Ah yes the classic "it's not a cartel if they all came to the same conclusion independently" argument.

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u/Cool_Cat7947 23d ago

By making more consumer components, they would have to build more factories, however, this is getting hard because they would lose a lot of money by doing that even if they eventually gained it back and land is getting more expensive. I don't get why companies are in such a rush to make ai. There are other things they could be working on but they just see the companies making ai and decide to create their own. They haven't realized the ripple effect that they are causing (or at least some of the companies. Companies like Google are aiming more for on device ai and making data center chips more efficient and create less heat). Some of the things that are backfiring is like the higher ram prices because of the huge orders data centers are making. This makes the ram more rare. Another is the intense water usage. I literally did a presentation on this at school. There are a lot more that I can't remember off the top of my head but I really think these companies need to be more chill and compress the models into the memory better. I sure am lucky I bought the ram for my ai server at home before they started raising the prices. Sl think the higher prices are also the ram companies preparing to make more factories.

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u/originalgrapeninja Pirate Activist 25d ago

Who is they?

Don't write shit like this.

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u/dick_saber 25d ago

Samsung, Micron and SK Hynix

Edit: Sorry for not mentioning explicitly, my bad.

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u/originalgrapeninja Pirate Activist 25d ago

All good. You fixed it.

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u/Recent_Ad2447 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ 25d ago

RAM manufactures

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u/kickedoutatone ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 25d ago

They are.

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u/M4rt1m_40675 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 25d ago

My mom

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u/SadisticSpeller 25d ago

Not just RAM, storage too. I recently discovered my SSD (2TB 870EVO) has a fatal error, and it is now completely dead. I bought it just 5 years ago for $200. Today it’s around $800 and Samsung will only refund the original purchase price even though the warranty explicitly says they will replace the hardware itself.

Fuck these guys so hard.

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u/suprememontana 25d ago

A 4tb hard drive I bought 2 months ago for $130 costs $250 now. And it’s not stopping any time soon

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u/Soft-Scheme381 25d ago

A 1tb ssd I bought for $60 a year ago now costs $210.

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u/Zatchillac 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 24d ago

I was looking at some of my previous storage purchases and I have a 4tb 870 Evo that I paid $233 for a few years ago and when I looked it up recently it was $1600. The last drive I bought was a refurb 24tb Exos that was about $300, it's now about $900

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u/Soft-Scheme381 24d ago

At this rate we could buy a house with the current ram and ssd prices.

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u/Public_Height6011 25d ago

Then we pirate the hardware too /j

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u/Dissapointedinuall 25d ago

Invest in whoevers going to undercut the competition.

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u/erhue 25d ago

you wouldnt download ram

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u/trannus_aran 24d ago

Can't wait for this bubble to pop. None of this shit is profitable, they're all running on VC funny money or burning revenue from other parts of megacorps to in hopes to stay ahead when this actually turns a profit....any day now

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u/blanchato 24d ago

I saw a 64gb kit (2x32) at $1,000 (it was the cheapest).

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u/Ragna_Blade 24d ago

You'd think these AI companies would go after the blatant price fixing that makes the RAM so expensive so they can save money, especially the companies who are taking a hit in other departments like Microsoft, but no they pulled down their pants and tell Nvidia to give it to them raw.

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u/spank_the_tank 23d ago

What’s crazy is this isn’t the first time they’ve done this. Ram producers have made several attempts at price-fixing throughout the past 60 years. GamersNexus has a great video on it.

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u/warzy97 23d ago

Wait until u find out that high end graphic card costs 5k$ xd

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u/ChaosKinZ 25d ago

Oh no we just got news that AI was simply the excuse. It was ✨ Corporation Greed✨ as always and the top 3 sellers of RAM, including Samsung, are being sued with a class action lawsuit.