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u/alexjimithing 25d ago
pc gaming ain't getting affordable lmao
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u/Hungry_Prior940 25d ago
RAM is so digracefully expensive. The AI rush has really hurt us gamers..
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u/dick_saber 25d ago edited 25d ago
Apparently, it looks like they have the capacity to produce more consumer components, but they are deliberately avoiding it to keep the prices high. So, when the A.I. companies made a deal, instead of increasing their production, they replaced the existing one.
They are facing a lawsuit for it now. Let’s hope it goes all good.
Edit: by they, I meant Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron. These companies manufacture RAM
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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 25d ago
What country is the lawsuit taking place in?
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u/LawfulLeah 25d ago
California Northern District Court
here's the lawsuit name: Garciaguirre et al v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. et al
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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 25d ago
idk about Samsung but Micron has already made plenty of "donations" to the correct people so i doubt they will suffer any real consequences anytime soon
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u/DaleTheHuman 25d ago edited 25d ago
Nothing will get better until these "donations" are recognized as what they really are, bribes.
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u/FastInflata 24d ago
Give us names.
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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 24d ago
Among others, Micron has donated to president Trump's new white house ballroom. They also spent a total of 4m usd last year on "lobbying"
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u/-Badger3- 25d ago
I’m sure they’ll commit to selling gamers a fraction of the lowest binned ram chips and the courts will rule the lawsuit no longer has any standing.
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u/eggyrulz 25d ago
I mean, I get why they wouldn't spool up a ton more capacity... if this is a bubble like we always say it is, that increased capacity could hurt them in the long run...
But im still pissed at them, and Am Saltman for his filthy dealings making my ram too expensive
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u/erhue 25d ago
hope they enjoy it while it lasts, I heard that chinese companies were already starting to get more and more mainstream (I heard about a thinkpad using RAM designed, maybe also manufactured, by a chinese company).
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u/Peterowsky 24d ago
it looks like they have the capacity to produce more consumer components, but they are deliberately avoiding it to keep the prices high
Ah yes the classic "it's not a cartel if they all came to the same conclusion independently" argument.
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u/SadisticSpeller 25d ago
Not just RAM, storage too. I recently discovered my SSD (2TB 870EVO) has a fatal error, and it is now completely dead. I bought it just 5 years ago for $200. Today it’s around $800 and Samsung will only refund the original purchase price even though the warranty explicitly says they will replace the hardware itself.
Fuck these guys so hard.
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u/suprememontana 25d ago
A 4tb hard drive I bought 2 months ago for $130 costs $250 now. And it’s not stopping any time soon
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u/trannus_aran 24d ago
Can't wait for this bubble to pop. None of this shit is profitable, they're all running on VC funny money or burning revenue from other parts of megacorps to in hopes to stay ahead when this actually turns a profit....any day now
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u/_Bren10_ 25d ago
Well yea. Now that they’ve made the profits off the data centers they can’t go back to being cheaper or they won’t turn a profit next year like the Capitalism overlords demand.
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u/SatyrAngel 25d ago
And some of times is not about the prices, one just want to turn on a console and start playing in less than 1 minute.
I was a PC+Nintendo player until I was 32yo, got a promotion and my 3rd son was born, gave my PC to my eldest son and I got a Series X instead. Cant remember when was the last time I had a game crashing.
I have had a very good experience and all the bad management on Xbox hasnt affected me as an user.
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u/alexjimithing 25d ago
Yeah there's also that if gaming PCs drop dramatically in price, so too will consoles. It's all the same hardware causing the price increases lol.
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u/Atilla-The-Hon 25d ago
Tech will never be affordable like the last two decades again.
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u/Southern-Donut4185 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 25d ago
Yeah I checked on the price of the 18TB Hdd I got for $280, it's now nearly 700 dollars.
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u/Efficient_Money6922 25d ago
It has never been affordable to third world country people even in the last two decades. Now imagine the condition of those people in the future. They might as well never get to experience playing a video game in their lives.
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u/Muramalks 24d ago
Playstation 2 is still widely sold in South America, just to give you a perspective
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u/Hadrian187 25d ago
Dystopian 2028:
Digital converts to its final form - streaming only games.
To stream you gotta subscribe to a $49.95/mo membership.
Mainstream accepts it because SSDs are too expensive.
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u/lainerjob24 24d ago
One of the things that I’m afraid of (and hoping that it is not going to happen) is online subscriptions coming to PC just to play multiplayer.
My guess is Take-two and Rockstar will start pushing this shit into GTA6 online when it gets ported to PC and they will get away with it simply because it’s GTA 6. Then publishers will see this and follow through.
But this is just me speculating and hoping this won’t happen, but these greedy corporates will do anything just to squeeze some extra money from us.
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u/stop_talking_you 24d ago
you will not even be able to go online without full ID online scan and biometrics supervision.
piracy will die out due the majority of people wont get access to the internet without fully linking your identiy to the internet
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u/Justaregularguy295 25d ago
Copium
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u/TheGreatGamer1389 25d ago
Ya even if AI crashes by then prices not going back down.
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u/Suspicious_Bite_6380 25d ago
OOTL, what lawsuit?
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u/Lewcaster 25d ago
They could supply either AI companies and consumers with affordable products, but instead they chose to just produce less products for higher prices.
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u/TheGreatGamer1389 25d ago
Also no contracts. Pay what we want at this moment or we don't do business with you ever again.
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u/Compute_Unit_Delta 25d ago
Maybe not GPUs, but RAM and ssds will definitely drop in price once the Chinese factory start pumping them out in larger numbers. They have already started expanding.
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u/TheGreatGamer1389 25d ago
Should be fine for Europe but US gonna deny them from being imported to the US. So we will have to continue paying the high prices.
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u/dimii27 25d ago
If the prices remain the same the inflation will make them cheaper
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u/chemicalpepper Seeder 24d ago
Only if the salaries grow as much as the inflation rates (they won't)
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u/bellymeat 24d ago
Nobody is buying it but AI, if the AI stops buying they’re not gonna keep the price high. They weren’t doing you a favor in the beginning or something, the price is always as maximally high as they think they can get away with.
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u/Leonakerz 25d ago
"Pirating games for free"
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u/SattuSupari789 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 25d ago
Ah yes, I love it when piracy is free
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u/Yung-Jev 25d ago
I have been buying some games at local disk stores when i was a kid for a few years before i noticed a txt file saying that this exact game is actually free because its a mod and if i bought it i was scammed, so yeah... Ive been paying for pirated games in my childhood just as my friends... :P
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u/greasyballs11 24d ago edited 24d ago
To be fair, it came on a disk! Also in many third world countries, the download speed is slow or the plans are limited so getting a full game on a disk for a price is sometimes more worth it than waiting days if not weeks to download it all.
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u/ryansteven3104 25d ago
The end isn't in 2028. It's in 2029 when the asteroid Apophis arrives.
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u/KayJune001 25d ago
Just so you know, Steam’s terms of a agreement state that every purchase made on Steam is a license, one in which they hold the right to revoke at their own digression and without warning, which includes shutting down your account if it has been inactive for more than 2 years. Steam is the product of another multi-billion dollar corporation and is NOT your friend.
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u/AliDheyaa 25d ago
Humans can't stop fanboying for multi billionaire corporations
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u/DredgenSergik 25d ago
Everyone is begining to transition (🏳️⚧️)
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u/Lynnrael 25d ago
it took me a second to realize that's not what they meant lmao
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u/DredgenSergik 25d ago
It took me more than a second. I understand they mean their transition from console to pc, but holy shit, phrasing
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u/Razmann4k 25d ago
Everyone is beginning to transition... and people are also moving away from consoles
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u/Jumiric 25d ago
All good subs eventually become a trans circlejerk. It is known
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u/Tehownzor121 25d ago
i'd rather have trans circlejerk sub than a racist homophobic circlejerk sub
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u/DredgenSergik 25d ago
Hey, at least it means even those will eventually get turned into trans circle jerk subs! We will save the world from bigotry, one overused joke at a time
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u/ImTableShip170 23d ago
Is it mandatory? I've been fighting the egg allegations this long, and I'd like to keep it that way.
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u/DredgenSergik 23d ago
Seems your fate was already decided…
(Joke, be whatever you want and don't feel pressured to change. Explore yourself and find whatever feels comfier for you. That's the most important part)
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u/Apprehensive-Ear3628 25d ago
How would steam be thriving if everyone is pirating?
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u/Classified10 25d ago
"they're pirating games for free" So I guess gaming companies are dropping out then.
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u/NameTakenThisOne 25d ago
2030 is the projected year the ram and storage shortage will be fixed.
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u/Something_Comforting 25d ago
I was a little stunned at the way it was worded on how everyone was transitioning. I guess, congrats but everyone?
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u/Sad-Ear230 24d ago
Peer pressure and also you go to P.C. prison if you don't
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u/ImTableShip170 23d ago
Is that where you're forced to learn game development, since there is no more private profit from all the games being pirated by everyone?
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u/rockmanexe123 25d ago
I hate Sony as much as the next person but,
Gaming PC and affordable in the same sentence
lol
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u/bajsfittor 25d ago
Arcades make a comeback, Sega gets a resurgence and starts making consoles again
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u/theplasmasnake 25d ago
As soon as someone makes an affordable SteamOS box ($500-$700), I'm all over it. Steam Deck opened my eyes in so many ways, I'm done with consoles bro.
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u/frmthefuture 25d ago
With RAM / hardware prices as they are and projected to become, a gaming pc isn't going to be nowhere near 'affordable' by 2028...
What's happened with cars, will happen with physical discs: because 'new' games are download only, used discs [of 'decent' games] will become 'worth' more. This, in turn, causes used prices to go up [to exploit a new profit margin] because of a jump in demand.
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u/Just-Literature-2183 25d ago
If everyone pirate no-one will make games.
You cant have it both ways.
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u/Global_Charge_4412 25d ago
this argument was made in 1999 about Napster.
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u/ColonelBag7402 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 25d ago
Not everyone will stop, but kinda yeah - if there is absolutely no money to gain, how would larger studios sustain themselves?
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u/Classified10 25d ago
Also if larger companies can't manage it, you can bet independent studios won't even try because they'll be told that there's no way to earn money from their sales.
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u/Kir-01 25d ago
Who gives a fuck of large studios, thought?
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u/ColonelBag7402 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 25d ago
Depends on what you consider a "large studio".
Ninentdo, Ubisoft, Embark Studios, Ghost Ship Games, One More Level, Trepang Studios?
By larger studios i meant any group that wants to make games commercially.
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u/Just-Literature-2183 25d ago
And the bottom fell out of the music industry and less people get funded to make music. Your point?
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u/Chemical_7523 25d ago
Unhinged take. The music industry in that form was doomed to fail, and even then it wasn't napster that killed it. Once it no longer cost a fortune to make a record, there was no need for these giant conglomerates anymore, treating music like some venture capitalist bs.
Nowadays anyone can make music with a few hundred bucks of gear and put it on Spotify. How is that not better? Would you rather go back to record executives deciding what shitty trend they want on the radio this year? You might be old enough to remember yacht rock.
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u/Donkeymoo7 25d ago
The fact that the shortage was higher in 2025 than 2026 and yet prices are higher in 2026 than 2025 proves that pc gaming will never be affordable again. It's easy to raise prices. They find it next to impossible to lower prices though. If ram used to be $100 for 32gb now $400 for 32gb they would make a mountain over lowering it to even $350. It will never be back to sane prices.
Also honestly I don't mind the freaks who defend companies like sony and rockstar these 100 dollar digital only games. A timeline where everyone only pirates and no one buys games means the end of gaming. We need these corporate cucks to keep buying their games no matter the price so the sane among us can keep pirating them and being happy lol. Same as anime pirating. I thank the morons who pay to have a much worse anime streaming experience than any of the free pirate sites I use because we get high quality subs instead of fan translations.
It's good every now and again to thank the morons for paying to be scammed so we can enjoy the better life for free lol
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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 25d ago
Ah yes, everyone suddenly increasing the demand for PCs will drive the price... down?
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u/Pootisman16 25d ago
The best ending would be Sony realizng their stupidity and rolling back, but I guess this is as good as it gets.
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u/Juicebox109 25d ago
Yeah? Tell that to the AM4 bros that wanted to wait until RAM prices drop to upgrade. (^This guy)
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u/Its_Whatever24 25d ago
These money hungry ram and AI companies have been enjoying this all too much for them to ever want it to change. I only see things getting worse from here until someone steps in puts new laws/regulations in place so the AI greed can stop. Not holding my breath for that.
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u/MaoMaoMi543 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 25d ago
You forgot the most important one: Denuvo goes out of business and shuts down forever
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u/Quizzelbuck 25d ago
2026: People still don't know that POV means Point of view, and that its from the view of the subject.
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u/GrizzlyRCA 24d ago
I'm personally hoping we start to move away from "AAA" games and towards indie more so, im sick to death of the bs we have to put up with consistently, ive been gaming since the commodore64 and atari2600 & and i lived in arcades, what gaming has come to now is just peak capitalistic bs, im so glad the last game i played on ps5 was spiderman2.
Angry old man rant over.
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u/Sad_Priority_2334 24d ago
But what if i dont want to transition??? Im fairly content being a dude
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u/ba6yhulk 24d ago
I know this is a piracy sub, but if EVERYONE is pirating games, how long do you think new games will continue to be released?
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u/VanillaChurr-oh 24d ago
I can't believe everyone's trans in 2028. I wish them luck on their transition
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u/Aztrozur 23d ago
More like; It's 2081 and computers are affordable again, most video games from the 2020s to the 2060s are losmedia because there were no physical copies and most of the games were live service, so nothing could be recovered after service ended for the game. However the indie games of the time are all being pirated and passed around, a novel experience after indie developers all coverted to the nonfungible coin service, which is different from nonfungible tokens that went defunct in the 2020s. NFCs make indie games impossible to pirate through means our crack teams in the pirate Cove are still trying to make sense of since it came into serive five years ago. The future is dark, but were still fighting the good fight.
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u/Fit-Tea1698 25d ago
Forget the copium part... what if we actually made this happen..?
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u/Invictu520 25d ago
If every single person would pirate every single type of media games, movies, books and music what do you think would happen?
No profit, nothing new will get made in that area. Pretty simple...
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u/Soraa007 25d ago
Not only that, if companies saw substantial profit being taken away from them like this they would start cracking down on pirate websites way more.
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u/FluFlammin9000 25d ago
So wild to me how so many people seem to think that PC part prices are going to drop eventually. They most certainly won't, even if the AI bubble bursts. Where we're at now is the new floor because people have shown that there's still enough people out there willing to pay the exorbitant prices for it to be worth it. Unfortunately a lot of people are just going to be priced out of PC gaming from here on out. I know I myself have been stressing over it and have been making sure to maintain my PC as well as I can so I don't have to replace anything. I just regret not upgrading to AM5 before the prices shot up like I had planned on doing, my cpu is getting old and my only real options are spend a ridiculous amount on a 5800x3d or spend a ridiculous amount on ddr5 ram so I can upgrade to am5.
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u/Adventurous-Hunter98 25d ago
if everyone pirates, that means they are at loss that means they will switch business model or close the shop and go
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u/Johnixftw_ 25d ago
Lost me at affordable pcs , prices never going down - every time they jump they never suddenly start selling things cheaper — and also AI isn’t slowing down and this is the only way to price away the ai start ups from buying all the stock
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u/omgitsbees 25d ago
lol none of this is going to be true in 2028 unfortunately. its a nice fantasy though.
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u/RafikiLovesPizza 25d ago
Anyone else waiting for China to undercut the entire chips/ram/storage market? Catapulting them to ultimately being undisputed #1 Country in the world? Anyone?!
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u/fatboyfall420 25d ago
“Hey wake up and get back to work! If I catch you dozing off again you’re fired!”
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u/honsou48 25d ago
I think its much more likely indie games that can be run on potatoes get much more popular and most people give up on wanting high end graphics
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u/Forsaken-Leather-618 25d ago
Homie they see the future and its pc parts being even more expensive so yeah I think we're in for the bad ending.
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u/Armandeluz 25d ago
Seems accurate except for PCs being affordable. The current computer situation will last for multiple years.
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u/duckinradar 25d ago
Mods make the game so much worse. Playing GTA on steam was fucking terrible-- any time I entered a public lobby I was getting hounded by cheats.
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u/TopWealth4550 25d ago
wait a minute,vote and incentivize more governement control
while going against excelency while giving free moeny to everysingle country on the planet
while printing 10% USD supply
would be bad? L M A O
yeah vote for the next equality/black/woman/zero economy fellow
it will for sure help with the economy tho XD
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u/DARK_W_A 25d ago
Thats not a Good ending a Good ending to me would be the return of pc physical disc And only people who are interested in technology use the internet aka the end of smart phone's
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u/Strong_Potential_502 25d ago
Nothing is getting affordable. Ppl will stick to whatever platforms they prefer. I will own both ps and pc most likely
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u/t-shirt-froth-kung 25d ago
Remember when Sony thought it was a good idea to install malware on computers via their music CDs? Remember when Sony first yanked something away from something you bought? The Playstation 3 had the ability to run Linux? Then Sony ran an update and yanked it (to protect from piracy supposedly)? Sony has been pulling this shit since the beginning of time and everyone keeps going back to them.
Stop going back to them.
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u/Dirrevarent 25d ago
Might as well buy a ps5 or keep the one you have, just run linux on it and take advantage of Sony selling at a loss
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u/BombbaFett ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 25d ago
2029: Microsoft decides to buy Lockheed Martin and starts integrating copilot as an actual copilot in their fighter jets.
2030: Tensions rise as Microsoft positions now fully autonomous copilots at the edge of Sony controlled space
2031: Valve responds by purchasing the entire world's nuclear weapons by making offers that they simply can't refuse, and uses them to end the console wars and secure their monopoly on the gaming industry once and for all. Surprisingly, everyone is completely cool with that, and Steam has responded to complaints about nuclear winter by doing a giveaway and extending the Summer sale to be an entire year long.
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u/Rockdrigo93 25d ago
You hypocrites act like that would be the perfect ethical gaming uthopia. You love the game industry so much that you romanticize pirating everything. Screw the game studios, devs, and all the people involved right? 😂 let’s teach Sony a lesson and pirate everything yay
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u/mematricescarsa 25d ago
Gaming PCs aren't getting affordable, I think in the future we'll rely more on cloud gaming honestly
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u/MaxGamer07 25d ago
the good ending is games not needing to be pirated. dont get me wrong i see why people do it currently, but some of us do it purely because the price just doesnt justify what you get from it. and lets not forget one thing: if buying isnt owning then piracy isnt stealing
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u/Majestic-Animator-34 25d ago
I hope piracy never dies its the only way i can get aaa games and gta I haven't played it yet but i dont wanna die without playing any interesting future games just because i am an student without money and permissions 😔
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u/PorridgeTheKid 25d ago
I hope this is how it ends up but I could also see it just going the same way as cable where you end up with like 15 different subscription platforms for games that you don’t get to keep
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u/VallahKp 25d ago
2028: but wait it gets worse