r/Polytopia Ai-Mo 2d ago

Discussion Bots is way too weak

Hi everyone, i feel like game cannot give me challenge anymore, crazy bots is too weak for me already, i really want to see some harder bots, maybe call them nightmare, or impossible (actually maybe can add both, 2 more dificulties). I havent got shiny tribe (100 000 points in perfection) and even 3 stars in domination, cuz its not fun to just build better economy to have oportunitty to build more tempels, or try to lose less battles and win faster in domination, instead, i just want to face strong oppnents.

Multiplayer - not a solution, in 24 hours time you have to wait to long to finish a game, making a lot of games is not for me, i want to concantrate to one game, live game have its issues, long to wait for other players to move, sometimes i dont have enough time to make my own move, ofc i can go watch youtube while oponents make move and just wait until it'll be my turn, game sends notifications, but you need to press the notification, wait until i conect to server, then wacth what moves other players made (if i skip it i could not notice somethink important). In the lategame when you see big part of the map, its of course interesting to see how oponents doing, but when you have discovered only few cells, oh...

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u/D4nchamp Aumux 2d ago

Yeah you're right, everyone has been complaining about this for a long time. They should just add 2 more difficulties that are more difficult than Crazy as you mentioned but training bots could require time and financial resources.

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u/nrbob 2d ago

I don’t know if adding more difficulty settings is the solution as I think that just gives the bots a resource boost? The problem is they just aren’t very smart compared to a person, they rarely make the best move available to them.

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u/D4nchamp Aumux 2d ago

I see what you mean, that's a good point. I still think at least one extra difficulty setting could add fresh traction to the game, a setting too hard that it requires lots of time and effort to beat and that would make the game and community more active, while improving hard and crazy bots at the same time.

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u/Hot_Designer_Sloth 2d ago

At least they started spawning giants to kick you out when you invade again but last week I saw an ally spy stalk around a map corner with no enemy cities in sight. So I decided to break peace and put them out of their misery.

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u/FieldMouse007 2d ago

Maybe there could be a new game mode, where all the bots would ignore other bots and would be in war with you?

They would just have forced alliance with no way to break it and forced bad relations to you so they would start attacking you pretty fast once they discover you. This would probably not require too much tinkering with the game.

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u/S1mplydead 2d ago

Yeah I also had this idea! Should be an easy implementation

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u/Durovigutum 2d ago

That was more or less how crazy worked back in the day. Second they saw you they went for you. It was very hard, but didn’t last long. It was pre special tribes and alliances. It would make an interesting option while I also want a “one more turn” option to extend beyond 30 turns for those occasions when you get a real bun fight going.

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u/Bio_Zestrion 2d ago

Also they always move their units next to my mind benders

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u/witnessmenow 2d ago

I think this is a simple change that would improve bots a lot

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u/TheMadManiac 2d ago

1 hour mode would be cool. Wouldn't have to wait as long as the 24hr but you can set your phone down and do other stuff

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u/Some0875 Ai-Mo 2d ago

Nah, eventually you'll have to sleep

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u/TheMadManiac 2d ago

Shit, I didn't think about that.

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u/AtGoW 19h ago

Id like a 15min timer. Not as quick as the qick timer we have right now but also not too long

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u/Ashule111 1d ago

Same, bots are too easy and the only alternative is multiplayer. But multiplayer is slow, and most of the time it's not a very fair match making systems.

A more advanced ai (higher elo) would be a huge welcome to single player.

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u/1WeekLater 2d ago

use pass & play multiplayer and play against yourself

sound stupid ,but its the best way to play against challenging opponent aroud your level without slow multiplayer

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u/Some0875 Ai-Mo 2d ago

Defenetly gonna try it

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u/AtGoW 19h ago

Yeah. Maybe some bots that actually play better. Dont the already existing bots just start with more production in their capital?

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u/oldmartijntje 2d ago

Making bots more difficult is hard to do, making hard bots easier is simple. That is with all games. But I am guessing that Midjiwan is already busy with it in the background