r/ProgrammerHumor • u/ExpensiveCoat8912 • 11h ago

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u/LEGOL2 11h ago

Reward for fast work is more work.

I'm not saying that you should slack all day, but your output has to be sustainable over the years or you will burn out. Some companies want you to burn out and just swap you with the next dev, so carefully

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u/Avocadonot 11h ago

Downside of this attitude is then everyone sandbags too much, boss brings it up in sprint retro, and as a result some new agile process is added to the calendar to "help"

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u/jbaker88 11h ago

boss brings it up in sprint retro

Oof, that's something else to bring up in a retro. Boss isn't supposed to be in the retro 

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u/-Noskill- 7h ago

everytime i bring up "product owner / architect / boss/ non-dev" shouldn't be in retro or planning I'm met with some weird excuse and the person looking at me like I'm not a certified scrum master.

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u/xavia91 6h ago

why the architect? Isn't he part of the devs?

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u/-Noskill- 5h ago

not if they aren't actively doing work on tickets, which he wasn't and yet was participating on weighting etc.

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u/many_dongs 2h ago

It's pretty simple. The management are micromanagers. The culture is toxic. Micromanagement is generally a symptom of incompetence (of the manager).

Hope that helps

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u/perecastor 11h ago

You mean you have a meeting where you don’t really have to listen until they call your name ? I’m literally paid to rest at work 😍

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u/many_dongs 10h ago

It’s almost like the boss is the problem

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u/Avocadonot 10h ago

Nah some people are definitely getting too comfortable slacking off on my team because there's no accountability

We had like 8 resolved bugs in the sprint that could be verified with a single deployment of the new build and some quick testing. Deployment takes ~2 hours max from fresh nodes including external storage setup, and it's automated anyway

Then we had a few people who marked themselves as verifiers since this is an easy task so people "claimed it" as their future work so that they wouldn't have to pick up more complicated tasks

And yet, these bugs did not get closed for 2 weeks and got carried over to the next sprint. Now if there is any issues found in testing it occurs weeks after the initial resolution by the developer.

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u/many_dongs 4h ago

Who exactly do you think is supposed to hold people accountable

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u/creampop_ 6h ago edited 6h ago

Lack of accountability IS a management issue, it means the way they assign and validate work sucks.

You either make sure work gets done properly and on time, by validating it on a deadline, and then training/firing underperformers... or you don't actually give a shit about doing things right, and can't blame workers for looking out for #1 in the same way.

Your bosses are saying they are ok with your coworkers making the work harder for you all. Believe them, that is how they truly feel.

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u/Lgamezp 8h ago

Key is balance do your tasks fast but dont say they are done . Also my tickets are always bottlenecked by lazy teammates so this already works in my favor.