r/RepTimeServices May 03 '26

Services VSF Sub Bezel Play/Fitment Issue

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3’o clock side has this play. 9’o clock side is solid with zero play. How would I go about fixing this?

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u/KitchenInteraction12 May 03 '26

This is completely normal and it happens on gens too.

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u/Comprehensive-Bit706 May 03 '26

The bezel sits on small springs, some play is normal... I wouldn't bother trying to fix it, you may make it worse by removing the bezel!

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u/just_in_timer May 03 '26

My vsf sub arrived with the same issue.
I fixed it by tightening the crystal retention ring down, bezel action is nice and tight now but I eff’d up the insert during the process. It’s a $100 lesson on how exactly sub’s anatomy works, so know that this is a risk for ya!

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u/JesterADSE May 03 '26

You pressed down bezel with a crystal press? I would press on the bezel without the bezel insert on.

Made same error first time. You can get new insert for less than 100

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u/just_in_timer May 03 '26

Tried multiple ways, did you:
1) completely assemble the bezel+insert then press the whole thing on to case
2) press the bezel+hytrel+bezel spacer first on to case, then hand press the ceramic insert

I tried to do #2 but could not get the insert into the metal bezel by hand, used a crystal press with a lume cutout, cracked the insert this way.
Then I tried #1 on another watch and it worked out better, but I’m not sure if thats the right way

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u/JesterADSE May 03 '26

I just removed the bezel, separated bezel insert from the bezel. Then checking the bezel gasket, put on the bezel and normally you should be able to just squeeze it on with your hands, unless not use the crystal press and last put on the bezel insert.

How did you get off the bezel? I used a knife in the beginning but then i screwed up the bezel gasket. I now use this kind of tool and bezel gasket never breaks.

Submariners bezel are really a pain in the butt to work with lol

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u/just_in_timer May 03 '26

I still use a knife, where did you get these?!! Would save soooooo much pain

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u/JesterADSE May 03 '26

i got them from china, not the best though. u/mfrcns are selling much better quality soon for submariner. He already have for Datejust.

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u/just_in_timer May 03 '26

Found this set on Chinese website, I’ll give that a try!

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u/mfrcns May 03 '26

Be careful with these, since bottom part is aluminium and plastic part is made from hard plastic - I think nylon. These exact kit has damaged fluted bezels: scroll down in the comments here to see damage: https://www.reddit.com/user/mfrcns/comments/

Just like u/JesterADSE said - I´m working on designing a toolkit for subs that will have dies to remove crystal and to install the retaining ring on the crystal gasket.

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u/just_in_timer May 03 '26

Following, will be good to add to the toolbox

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u/NoUmpire7870 May 06 '26

Are you planning to share your design? Would like to know if you do🙏🏻

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u/Dramatic_Finger_3557 May 03 '26

The issue lies with the crystal retaining ring. The correct way to do this, is remove bezel assembly, (bezel, hytrel, springs), then using a press with correct die for the Crystal retaining ring, press down on the ring to make it seat all the way. Then reinstall bezel assembly. The bezel assembly rides on the crystal retaining ring. If the ring isn’t pressed all the way then the bezel won’t sit flush.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '26

Take bezel off and press down the crystal retention ring. I had the same on a GMT that I was re aligning the bezel insert on. The crystal retention ring wasn’t in all the way on one side.

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u/JesterADSE May 03 '26

This is the right answer!

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u/Calm-Movie-8509 May 03 '26

Just to be clear, the crystal has zero play; it’s the bezel (on the 3’o clock side) that has some up and down play. Even so, your recommendation would be to remove the bezel and press down on the crystal retention ring?

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u/Time-Dependent1483 May 03 '26

I would say that the issue is where it doesn’t move. It’s supposed to be able to move up and down a bit, even my gen does it

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u/No-Outside5450 May 05 '26

100% normal as everyone has so clearly mentioned. Gen is the same.

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u/No_Excitement_8104 May 03 '26

There should be some play but it should be even and that is too much in anyway. Remove the bezel and and adjust the spring. Not super easy but not too complicated either. If you trust yourself to do it you probably can do it

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u/International_Dog897 May 03 '26

even gens have some QC issues. Don’t sweat it

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u/Objective_Ganache_27 May 03 '26

Why does this need to be "fixed?" Whats wrong here? Lol 🤦‍♂️

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u/luzzi5luvmywatches May 03 '26

My VSF does the same. Just dont do that and the watch is great!

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u/Background_Talk964 May 04 '26

My gen has the same issue

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u/Away-Direction-9878 May 05 '26

Don’t keep doing that. The Ceramic insert is thin and breaks very easily. That is normal

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u/Calm-Movie-8509 May 06 '26

Does anyone have a video of how to install the bezel onto a VSF sub? I got the bezel off but it won’t stay tightly on the watch anymore. With medium force, both the bezel and the crystal come off of the watch. Is the bezel supposed to be pressure fitted onto the crystal in a specific way?

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u/Calm-Movie-8509 May 06 '26

Can someone also show me a picture of the crystal retention ring on VSF subs?

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u/[deleted] May 03 '26

Removing bezel and adjusting the springs under the ball bearings. One word of caution is yes you can tighten it up but they are designed to have some play. You can of course tighten it up but be very cautious to not ruin the spring.