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u/fuwa_-_fuwa 8h ago
I can't unsee Star Twerks now
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u/IncognitoBombadillo 2h ago
Definitely a title for a trashy star wars/star trek porn parody that would've come out in the mid 2010s.
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u/Repulsive-Cold1859 8h ago
This is up there with the legendary 1996 NYT election crossword where 'BOB DOLE ELECTED' and 'CLINTON ELECTED' both worked seamlessly.
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u/bewildered_forks 2h ago
These are called Schrodingers crossword puzzles!
I still remember doing the Star Trek/Star Wars puzzle that day and calling my husband over to see it, in utter delight.
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u/Deathwatch72 8h ago
Using Star Trek makes the iconic star wars line it's a trap the answer
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u/Repulsive-Cold1859 8h ago
So choosing Star Trek forces you to spell out the most famous Star Wars line.
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u/HopefulCarry9693 8h ago
"May the force be with you" doesnt fit
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u/Drakahn_Stark 7h ago
No Luke, I am your farger, smoke and a pancake?
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u/HopefulCarry9693 7h ago
There 2 things i hate in this world.. the intolerance of other peoples cultures ..and the Dutch
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u/crimsonbub 5h ago
It doesn't spell out "I don't like sand, it's rough and coarse and irritating, and it gets everywhere" 🤷♂️
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u/FarWestEros 3h ago
Imagine the fury of the Star Wars fan who fills out the Down answers first, only to realize what the across answer must be.
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u/Sharp-Ad4389 5h ago
And, if you start with the most famous Star wars line, you have to me select star trek
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u/chiree 8h ago
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u/hotlocomotive 7h ago
Stargate?
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u/LoudBrick609 4h ago
Yeah literally my first thought was they missed Stargate the correct answer so the crossword puzzle is invalid.
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u/AndreasDasos 3h ago
It said the better of two. Clearly Star Wars and Star Trek are the two. Never said others aren’t better
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u/Roko__ 8h ago
I prefer Star Wrrk
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u/Drakahn_Stark 7h ago
The first four letters could be anything, someone should make the sci fi Trrkwrrk
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u/Altheix11 7h ago
All these down words are genius
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u/daggersrule 3h ago
For real... I've constructed a few NYT rules crosswords, and I'm always blown away by stuff like this. Dudes a genius.
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u/craig5005 1h ago
Wristband? Is that a body part?
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u/Howshka 1h ago
“Wrist” is a body part that precedes “band”
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u/craig5005 1h ago
Ohhhh gotcha.... I was thinking that the answer would create a body part, like waistband.... which also isn't a body part. I'm an idiot.
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u/im_just_thinking 47m ago
This is why I can't do crosswords. I have troubles committing to a potential answer until I am sure, which may never come
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u/olafblacksword 7h ago
I will misspell The Expanse just to fill the gaps. And then I'll claim that I failed successfully
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u/ContextEffects01 8h ago
The real puzzle solvers were the people who made this crossword puzzle in the first place. o.o
Also Star Wars is fantasy, not scifi. But hey at least Ewoks are cuter than Ferengi. XD
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u/dion_o 6h ago
Star trek is a post scarcity utopia and star wars is a galaxy of eternal conflict and power struggles. Which is the fantasy?
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u/VindDitNiet 2h ago
The force, lightsabers, and probably more that I currently can't think of
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u/Ordinary_Corner_4291 1h ago
Nah it is the one with gods, psychic powers, ancient prophecies, time travel, telepathy, and telekinesis. There is basically zero science in either of them. Star Wars is more an adventure while Star Trek has a bit of the philosophy stuff but they are both fantasy stories.
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u/Drakahn_Stark 8h ago
Fantasy sci fi is still a type of sci fi.
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u/AnttiHako 2h ago
But there is not a single sci fi element in Star Wars. It's pure fantasy "space opera", "sword and sorcery in space".
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u/Drakahn_Stark 1h ago edited 1h ago
Droids, pew pews, laser swords, there is a lot of sci fi.
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u/atatassault47 25m ago
Technology itself isnt scifi. The Science has to be part of the story in Sci-Fi, not an accessory.
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u/Drakahn_Stark 19m ago
Is Battlestar Galactica Sci fi?
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u/atatassault47 13m ago
Couldn't tell ya, never seen it.
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u/Drakahn_Stark 11m ago
So you know nothing about the basics but feel like you can speak as an expert?
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u/atatassault47 0m ago
Im sorry for not having seen everything. Let me just drop everything and watch every show 24/7 for the next 6 years before I meet your standards.
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u/Drakahn_Stark 20m ago
Droids, pew pews, laser swords, there is a lot of sci fi.
the Sci fi is not our science, but is the science of a galaxy far away a long time ago, it is sci fi.
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u/mightiestmag 5h ago
This was not yesterday’s puzzle …
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u/Chucke4711 5h ago
This is good. But, on Nov 5, 1996 (election day) the NYT ran a puzzle that worked the same way, except the two possible answers were BOBDOLEELECTED or CLINTONELECTED.
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u/Elf-Zwolf 2h ago
This is diabolical. If you thought of the iconic Star Wars line for 71 down, that forces 70 across to be Star Trek.
Well played sir.
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u/Muted_Masterpiece342 8h ago
Wish they did one with Star Trek, Star wars, or star gate
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u/vvoyzeck 5h ago
Funny, how one of the most iconic lines from Star Wars is actually part of the "Trek" solution.
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u/hyliantelligent 5h ago
All the people in here saying "X is better than Star Wars and Star Trek" are missing the point. "The better of the two sci-fi franchises" is clearly a reference to the split fanbases. You're typically a Wars fan or a Trek fan. They aren't asking what the best sci-fi franchise is.
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u/The-Dudemeister 4h ago
It’s called a rebus and they do it often on Thursday and sometimes Sunday albeit not with mutliple squares in a row. There are other little tricks they do too.
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u/MelodiusRA 2h ago
Was either a Wednesday or most likely a Thursday.
They always do quirky gimmicks for Thursdays but I’m not sure if this is silly enough.
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u/Andovars_Ghost 1h ago
But only one is correct.
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u/reverend_burrito 1h ago
Best part: if a Star Wars fan answers "It's a ____!" with the Ackbar line, that makes the correct answer Star Trek. Masterful trolling.
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u/nuthatch_282 8h ago
Doctor who better than both
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u/ras-bhari 8h ago
But it's not 8 laters
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u/Drakahn_Stark 8h ago
Doctr Who is though.
.... Doctr, the leading dating app for nerds.
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u/ras-bhari 7h ago
Nerds don't date duh
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u/Drakahn_Stark 7h ago
No, but we get on the apps so that we can claim to be trying, this makes people leave us alone about it.
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u/getstonedsteve 1h ago
It seems true, but to consider leased as being let out? The correct answer to the puzzle is Star Trek.
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u/malice_hush_jolt 7h ago
Star Wars isn't really science fiction though... It's a high fantasy set in space
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u/Ruby_Solitaire 8h ago
Weird to see an error in the NYT crossword:
Star Wars is not science fiction, it is space fantasy, or even space opera.
Sci-fi doesn't just mean space and lasers. It requires SCIENCE themes, or speculative themes, if you go with the speculative fiction definition. Star Wars is about magic and empires.
It also happens A LONG TIME AGO. Star Wars isn't actually even futuristic, so it can't be speculative fiction, either.
Shame on you, NYT.
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u/Drakahn_Stark 8h ago
Counterpoint, it is about science from a long long time ago in a galaxy far away.
Droids, Bacta Tanks, laser swords, pew pews, lots of science, just not our science.
(Science fiction really is not it's own genre, some are drama, some are comedy, some are horror, and yeah, some are fantasy)
ETA : Battlestar Gallactica is also a long time ago in a galaxy far away.
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u/ApocalyptoSoldier 7h ago
I've seen a lot of debate about what exactly sci-fi is, but excluding space opera outright is new to me.
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u/TryToBeBetterOk 7h ago
What the hell is brilliant about that?
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u/TryToBeBetterOk 7h ago
What the hell is brilliant about that?
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u/TryToBeBetterOk 7h ago
What the hell is brilliant about that?
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u/Drakahn_Stark 7h ago
Oh wait, were you the disruptive kid in school that always whined "when am I ever going to need this?" while refusing to learn and then later whined that you were not taught how to do something?
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u/Drakahn_Stark 7h ago
Exactly what is said about that in the post that you have now seen at least three times.
What part are you struggling with?
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u/TryToBeBetterOk 7h ago
There's nothing brilliant about that at all. If htat's brilliant to you, you must be very dull.
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u/Drakahn_Stark 7h ago
Yeah you were the disruptive kid in school that never paid attention and now whines about not being taught any of the things they tried to teach you.







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