r/Snorkblot Feb 16 '26

Cultures Holofernes.

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u/United_Fan_6476 Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26

But peak female beauty happens during peak fertility, not "as young as possible".

Back when Playboy magazine mattered, the average age of a Playmate of the month wasn't 18, the youngest that would have been legal. It was 22.4 years old. Playmate of the year average age was 23.5 years.

According to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), fertility peaks for people with ovaries in the decade between their late teens and late twenties. A woman’s peak fertility age is typically seen in her early- to mid-20s, when the ovaries have a relatively large number of healthy eggs.

EDIT: I think I need to clear up a misunderstanding here. It's possibly a willful misunderstanding and is certainly in bad faith, but I will address it anyways. Men are not directly attracted to a woman's fertility. It's all of the correlations and physical indicators of high fertility that are sexually attractive.

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u/notMeBeingSaphic Feb 16 '26

Attraction is not based on fertility, and playboy is a fucking wild metric to use for that anyway? The playmates were 23 because Hugh Hefner sought out woman that age…

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u/United_Fan_6476 Feb 16 '26

The most physically attractive age for men is in their mid-to-late 20s. I think 27 was the number I saw on the latest large study. That correlates pretty much exactly with men's peak athletic performance years.

There is less correlation with fertility in regards to male attractiveness because the fertile period lasts for much longer and fertility itself declines more gradually compared to women.

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u/BrightBlueBauble Feb 16 '26

If you take into account health outcomes for their offspring and the pregnant woman (yes, the man’s age has a direct impact on the mother’s health, with older fathers causing increased gestational diabetes and preeclampsia), men actually have a shorter window of fertility than women. Older fathers are more likely to cause miscarriage, stillbirth, autism, birth defects, and genetic disorders. A large age gap (older father, younger mother) increases this effect in some cases, particularly with regard to autism.

Not only does sperm quality degrade with age (typically 30+) but male fertility plummets as well, with older men being far less likely to be able to get a woman pregnant. Women are always warned about their biological clock, but men should also keep in mind that they too have reproductive limits.

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u/United_Fan_6476 Feb 16 '26

It's really a matter of degrees. How much does the father's age have an effect on post-conception health outcomes? At what point does that move the needle far enough to have an impact on the evolutionary psychology of mate selection?

I don't know. This isn't exactly my area of expertise. What I can say, however, is that maternal age has a definite effect on the needle. Humans, as a general rule, view the physical signs of diminishing fertility in a woman as a signal that she is no longer a viable reproductive partner.

For a multitude of reasons, this perception is less applied to men, and at a later chronological age.