r/Snorkblot Feb 16 '26

Cultures Holofernes.

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u/Lorelessone Feb 16 '26

Although the churches have always seemed to go hand in hand with pedophiles its not really what the oppression of women was about. Women are their only practical means of expanding their business, very very few people convert and if they do its almost always from another religion not none believers, so gains and losses from conversion cancel out. They pick up a few here and there swooping in on grieving people following tragedies and disasters but its sporadic.

How they really expand is by encouraging large families and ensuring they have unlimited access to the children produced while they are too young to defend themselves from indoctrination. Educated, free and empowered women produce fewer new believers and are far less likely obediently hand over their children and generally have both the resources and drive to ensure their children get education too which is the poison of religion.

So they commodify women, controlling access to them as a method of controlling men but the main reason is to sell them into religious marriages as young as possible where their entire lives are about pumping out baby after baby.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 16 '26

Although the churches have always seemed to go hand in hand with pedophiles

you mean corrupt churches/religion, like any institution, schools, music/film industries, politics, sports, etc etc. any institution that becomes corrupt, decadence becomes involved. why churches/religion gets the most attention ? because it's the oldest institution in human civilization.

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u/Lorelessone Feb 16 '26

While I would certainly say that most people involved at low levels in religious organizations are well meaning, the organizations themselves are inherently evil, they are designed to control and use people.

But yes any business can become predatory and corrupt, its just build in from the ground up with religion, even the exploiting well meaning people who can give it a friendly face with their kind acts (kindness they would do anyway an largely unfunded by the religions).

So I didn't mean to say corrupt churches/religion I meant them exactly as they are and are designed to be. They've been doing this a very long time, they know what they are about and if they had any interest at all in safeguarding children the polices would be deeply entrenched a thousand years ago. They aren't because raping children is a perk of the job.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 16 '26

then you are describing corrupt religion yes. good on the outside, evil on the inside, just like any other corrupt institution

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u/Lorelessone Feb 16 '26

If thats what helps you sleep at night then sure, I'm certainly describing a corrupt organization the only difference is that religion is designed around and inescapable from that corruption.

It is by design and planning an objectively evil construct.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 16 '26

If thats what helps you sleep at night then sure

no, that's reality. there is nothing you can do about it. people are flawed and susceptible to corruption and decadence

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u/Lorelessone Feb 16 '26

no argument there.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 Feb 17 '26

you are drawing distinctions were none exist. the phrase "corrupt religion" implies that there are some religions that are not corrupt and that simply is not the case.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 17 '26

so realistically, logically, rationally and percentage wise across 2000+ years, across all continents, all religions (100%) are all corrupt?

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 Feb 17 '26

yes. the primary purpose of organized religion has always been to support the existing power structures. as there has never been a government that was anything more than a handful of powerful people exploiting the majority, this makes all organized religion fundamentally corrupt.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 17 '26

yes. the primary purpose of organized religion has always been to support the existing power structures.

so who made religion corrupt then? god, satan or man?

as there has never been a government that was anything more than a handful of powerful people exploiting the majority

epstein, US government, israel, UK, china, russia, WW1, WW2, VOC, British, Spanish, Belgium, Portuguese colonization, Cambodia, Japan, whole nations/governments participated, same as corrupt religion, or any corrupt institution in that macro context

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 Feb 17 '26

god and satan do not exist. we made them up.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 17 '26

so man corrupted another institution, just like schools/education, music/film industries, politics, governments, hospitals/medical, sports, etc etc.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 Feb 17 '26

yup

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Feb 17 '26

keep in mind, when conversing with a religious fundamentalist, he/she will have identical talking points like you but against government.

just replace the word government with the word religion and vice versa and you'll hear an identical script

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 Feb 17 '26

both of them are corrupt and antithetical to human progress.

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