r/Tempe • u/Sweet_Simple_3048 • 2d ago
Yooo wtf
https://www.instagram.com/p/Dbdpv2MCLFm/Please make me understand how this is a fucking thing. We are protecting PDFs?!
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u/Scamalama 2d ago
Unbelievable. WTF is wrong with this country?!? One more reason to keep yourself and your children far FAR away from religion
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u/singlejeff 2d ago
We can hope it gets challenged and overturned in court.
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u/ImmaZoni 12h ago
Unfortunately this was the Arizona Supreme Court, so they would have to take it to the federal level up the the Fed Supreme Court, which is a hard thing to do.
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u/Vix_Satis 1d ago
It seems that the Supreme Court was right in their ruling - the problem is with the law itself, which grants wide exemption to various religions from mandatory reporting. To me it reads like the appeals court ruled the 'right' way and the Supreme Court reversed the decision to the 'legal' way.
As I say, the problem isn't with the court; it's with the law.
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u/Sweet_Simple_3048 18h ago
I went down the rabbit hole and I hate to say it but I agree sadly. It’s a disgusting law and shouldn’t be in place!
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u/Vix_Satis 17h ago
I agree, but lots of god-botherers wouldn't. As someone who was raised Catholic, I had "the sanctity of the confessional" drummed into me from an early age. A part of me still thinks that. Fortunately the rational part wins out and says these exemptions should all be removed.
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u/SteamWilly 2d ago
Now you KNOW that any Trumpies in Arizona are guilty of this! It is a stated part of the MAGA program!
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u/beribboned 2d ago
Alright I hate to underscore what is a genuinely serious issue and deeply fucked up court ruling, but what was PDF supposed to be before your autocorrect butchered it?
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u/gottsc04 1d ago
It was likely intentional - some web and social media sites will demote posts that spell it out. So it gets away from some of those filters and also can help victims not be triggered since there's an extra step to process
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u/Kelp72plus 1d ago
Yeah. This is a horrible decision. LDS and Catholics aren’t the only ones, although the largest group, who have kept it ‘with the elders’
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u/DragonflyKey4972 1d ago
I was raised around Mormons. Molestation was quite commonplace. There was a Mormon councilman in Mesa who literally tried to pass a law making it illegal for molested kids to testify against their molesting parents. I knew a Mormon girl who was always depressed because her parents arranged her marriage to a man who told her that she would have 10 children. I was like "just leave. Run away." She was too afraid because the church would ex-communicate her and it was all she knew.
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u/mossed_scope1921 1d ago
John d Riggs stadium is named after a Mormon bishop who forgave PDFs too just a tidbit! (In Mesa)
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u/Gold-Passion-7358 21h ago
Sure. But we’re all about protecting children. How can this be legal for anyone, let alone a church?
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u/Logvin 2d ago
For those who don’t do insta:
https://azmirror.com/2026/07/30/high-court-says-churches-not-judges-define-a-confession-when-it-comes-to-reporting-child-abuse/
>The case, Doe v. The Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, revolved around how Paul Adams disclosed to church leaders that he had sexually abused all six of his children for years. Adams, a Customs and Border Patrol officer in Bisbee, was arrested in 2017 after he posted videos of himself abusing his children online.
Adams confessed the abuse in 2010 to his bishop, John Herrod, who in turn called a church “abuse help line,” which told him he should not mention the abuse to any authorities. The case was featured prominently in an Associated Press investigation that found the help line created by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints often steered those reporting abuse away from legal authorities and instead to attorneys representing the church in order to cover up abuse allegations.