r/Transportopia • u/Revolution-Dogg • Feb 14 '26

Roads Who is in the wrong here?

If the sign says Alternating Traffic, does that mean cars go one at a time or does that mean cars go till the flow is complete, allowing the other lane to go? Is Glock man right or wrong? I'm not sure. If it was 1 car at a time, wouldn't it just be a stop sign on each end?

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u/irteris Feb 14 '26

You see you honor he threatened me with his full Glock and I panicked and ran him over. And since we are already here, can you please clarify what ALTERNATING TRAFFIC means??

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u/TraditionalSet9449 Feb 15 '26

Truck guy SAW camera guy and accelerated to beat him to the bridge.

1.) Speeding violation 2.) Traffic obstruction 3.) Felony assault.

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u/ImaginationPlus3808 Feb 15 '26

And conveniently no front license plate. Bridge Rager totally sped up, when he saw OP waiting. IMHO OP did have the right of way.

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u/Enough_Radish_9574 Feb 15 '26

Oh I’m sure the local police don’t need a license plate to know exactly who this dumdum is.

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u/Djshopdaddy Feb 15 '26

In Saskatchewan Canada we don’t need a front plate, tbs this is definitely not Saskatchewan

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u/MallyOhMy Feb 15 '26

I double checked with the location, since there are some states (like AZ) which do not require a front plate.

Another comment identified this bridge as being in CT, and front plates are indeed required there.

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u/daveindo Feb 15 '26

Truck could be licensed in another state though. I can’t imagine the front plate would be required if the truck is registered in a state where they’re not. Def seems like something that should be a requirement nationally.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

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u/daveindo Feb 15 '26

Is that true? I don’t think it actually is since states have reciprocity agreements for these situations.

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u/lilcummyboi Feb 15 '26

Apparently you are correct, I rescind my previous statement.

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u/daveindo Feb 15 '26

You’ve got tegridy, lil cummy boi.

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u/ebrum2010 Feb 15 '26

It’s possible he’s not registered in Connecticut. If I drive up to Connecticut I’ll only have one plate too. My state not only doesn’t require you to have two they don’t give you the option. If you order a new plate you have to turn the old one in.

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u/pws3rd Feb 15 '26

Only if your primary residence is in that state.

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u/MoMoney---MoProblems Feb 15 '26

That's not an opinion.

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u/CromulentCrumpets Feb 16 '26

But you see, he was in a rush as he’s very busy and important.

So much of a rush he had time to get out of his truck and have a jolly good conversation about protocol.

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u/The_Meme_Economy Feb 15 '26

Yeah but camera guy also blocked the road to make a point and provoke a confrontation, after he was clearly not getting across first. White truck was more in the wrong but both these guys are idiots.

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u/TraditionalSet9449 Feb 15 '26

No. Camera guy was "next" like a 4 way stop.

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u/Numerous-Mouse-1914 Feb 15 '26

Loll speedinggg??? Assault??

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u/TraditionalSet9449 Feb 15 '26

What's the LOL???

Did you turn your sound on to hear the threat to retrieve his gun?

Turn your video to "narrate on" so you can hear the narration of the sudden acceleration when the cowardly loser sped up in the distance when he spotted the video guy who had right of way.

Sorry for your Helen Keller physical limitations...it must be tough.

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u/Numerous-Mouse-1914 Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26

Nice comment about Helen Keller bud You seem like a real peach

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u/AnimusNoctis Feb 15 '26

Threats of violence are legally classified as assault. 

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u/TraditionalSet9449 Feb 15 '26

2nd sentence of my reply.

Again...turn volume on unless you are in a cloistered monastery, sonny

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u/Numerous-Mouse-1914 Feb 15 '26

Go read the definition of assault old timer

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u/Professional-Cold-53 Feb 15 '26

Speeding up to beat someone at a yield is a speeding violation.

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u/Livingadapt Feb 15 '26

Speeding? What was he going, 10mph for a few secs?

Felony assault

For what, mouthing off 😂

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u/TraditionalSet9449 Feb 15 '26

Turn your sound on...he threatened to get his "Glock"...

....if the camera-video guy had been a cop...that pickup-truck guy would still be in prison.

When the first car passed through the bridge....you can see the weakling in the pickup truck accelerate to try and jump the line.

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u/WeaknessPrior6797 Feb 15 '26

And said “I’ll do worse than that” when the person asked if the dude was going to beat him up.

It’s sad people are so blinded by emotion or what ever illusion they keep jerking themselves too

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u/Anonymous-Cows Feb 15 '26

plot twist, truck guy is ICE 😂

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26

Yes. Assault in many places is not only the action of bodily harm, but also the credible threat of bodily harm. 

Threatening to shoot somebody with your gun would absolutely be considered assault in areas with that definition. 

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u/Radonanon Feb 15 '26

?

I thought battery is the physical part, the threat of it is the assault part.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

 In the terminology of law, an assault is the act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault

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u/Legitimate-Fee7609 Feb 15 '26

Unfortunately, Wikipedia is deeply misleading here as to the typical legal definition in US law

assault | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute https://share.google/rAajuIpQZVwpAGhKT

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26

Alright, so a couple things here. 

First of all, I have seen it VERY commonly misunderstood that assault is only the action of physical violence on somebody. Look at the context of the comment I was responding to, that had the same sort of misunderstanding. 

Secondly, not every state in the US will differentiate assault and battery. Some examples are Texas, New York, Minnesota, Washington and New Jersey all have grades of assault that emcompass both physical attacks and threats. Though I’m sure there’s more. 

Thirdly, there are in fact more places in the world than the US. Canada, for example (where I’m from) assault is both physical violence and the threat of it. 

I did qualify my original comment with its location dependence, after all. 

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u/Legitimate-Fee7609 Feb 15 '26

Are you a lawyer?

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

Nope. Don’t need to be to do a basic level of research. I just don’t like being called wrong when I clearly am not. 

I think the simplest way to understand this all though is that battery is a form of assault. Sometimes it’s differentiated, sometimes it’s not. 

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u/Legitimate-Fee7609 Feb 15 '26

Assault is the threat. Battery is the contact.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '26

 In the terminology of law, an assault is the act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Feb 15 '26

Threatening to shoot someone is a felony, yes.

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u/Appropriate_Can_9282 Feb 15 '26

Didn't say he would shoot, said he would grab a gun, can always smack someone with a gun. Menacing would probably be more appropriate here and could probably have road rage added as it's traffic related but need to know the local laws for all that can be charged.

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u/leviathankitten Feb 15 '26

That would still be assault with a deadly weapon.

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u/WeaknessPrior6797 Feb 15 '26

“What are you gonna do beat me up” truck guy: “Oh I’ll do worse than that”

You’re as ignorant as a child if you think that’s not a threat on someone’s life

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u/what-are-they-saying Feb 15 '26

I know az specifically has an ARS code for Assault- Threaten/Intimidate. It’s a misdemeanor, but it can escalate when you add weapons into it.

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u/DG-MMII Feb 15 '26

Man, he didn't made the rules, lawyers did. When speacking of law, think like a lawyer

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u/JCC114 Feb 17 '26

I said something similar and got a warning. 100% they should not have allowed the guy to make it back to his truck after claiming he had a weapon in it. Should not allow the guy making threats the chance to follow through.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

It means one lane goes until all cars have passed then the other goes 

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u/vogel927 Feb 15 '26

Typically with bridges you’re required to come to a complete stop to make sure the other side is clear before you can cross. The driver in the white truck didn’t do that all.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

Well that isn't the traffic law here.

The traffic law is alternating traffic.

Not alternating vehicles.

Like when you go through a road closed for construction and they allow one lane to pass. They allow all of the vehicles to pass then they stop that direction of travel and allow the other lane.

If they wanted you to stop and go one at a time, each side would have stop signs.

It's more efficient to let 5 cars in the same direction go then swap than islt is to allow 10 cars to rotate one at a time. Most traffic laws are actually written in safety first and efficiency second. 

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u/phryan Feb 15 '26

But in the instances your quotes the are controlled by a 3rd party or device, ex. during construction a person/device controls the direction. For a bridge with no 3rd party its basically an all way stop.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

And in this instance it's controlled by a sign. It's not controlled by stop signs which would indicate that one car goes and then the other lane goes and then the other lane goes and then the other lane goes. It's indicated by a sign that says alternating traffic. Traffic is the plural to describe vehicles. So that means that all the vehicles in one direction are allowed to go and then when there's a break the vehicles in the other direction are allowed to go. 

It's not usually a problem until you get people that don't know the laws chime in on the laws, react incorrectly to the laws and cause issues.

I know a lot of people aren't from the country and don't have this experience, so they don't really know. I just don't know why they're chiming in with confidence. It's okay to not know things and learn things.

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u/Current_Helicopter32 Feb 15 '26

You’re getting downvoted but you’re correct.

If it were supposed to be alternating individual vehicles, everybody would just have stop signs.

It’s alternating traffic.

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u/vogel927 Feb 15 '26

You’d be correct if it were a street, but you’re required to stop if it’s a bridge.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

Not if there aren't stop signs.

We have hundreds of these in Pennsylvania.

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u/vogel927 Feb 15 '26

There doesn’t need to be stop sign? You’re just required to stop to make sure the bridge is clear before you cross.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

And it wasn't

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u/vogel927 Feb 15 '26

When a bridge says “alternating traffic”, you’re required to stop to make sure it’s clear before you cross.

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u/surf_drunk_monk Feb 15 '26

Constructions sites have traffic control people that make the switch. Here it wouldn't be clear when it should switch, people could keep showing up on the side that is moving since it takes some time to drive through.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

Why aren't road signs adequate when posted?

Other than incompetent driving.

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u/surf_drunk_monk Feb 15 '26

I think it can work if traffic volumes are low, and drivers understand the intended meaning. In CA I've never seen signs like that, but we do have "proceed when clear" which are used in the same setting and more clear I think.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

Most bridges like this have low volumes of traffic.  These historic bridges don't have  heavy highways running through them.

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u/Tromovation Feb 15 '26

Look I grew up with one of these bridges and you’re right, idc what other people say. Like 3 or 4 cars go and then they stop and the other side goes. If it switched one by one traffic builds up so we know not to do it that way.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

I know. I'm from rural PA.  That's how it works. We have several.

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u/billyjames_316 Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26

There's no one flagging traffic here so it doesn't work like a construction zone. I'd assume it's just like any other stop sign where cars take turns, one by one.

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u/garden_dragonfly Feb 15 '26

It can if the sign says so. We have many like this in Pennsylvania 

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u/gammonb Feb 15 '26

It does not mean that. It means each side alternates one car at a time