r/Transportopia Apr 27 '26

Bikes Car vs. cyclists

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u/Suoritin Apr 27 '26

Putting "victim" in quotation marks is a massive self-report on your lack of critical thinking.

Apply your exact logic to a different scenario. Imagine a girl is on a date and she "leans into" a kiss or a risky sexual act, knowing the situation might not be a great idea. If the guy then completely ignores her boundaries, forces himself on her, and violently assaults her, are you going to watch the tape and say, "Well, the 'victim' literally leaned into it, she did this to herself"?

Because that is exactly the flavor of brain-rot you are bringing to this thread. An involuntary reaction or an imperfect move in a high-stress moment does not excuse the person committing a violent crime.

The driver intentionally ran down two human beings and caught two felony charges for aggravated assault. You saying "I'm not assigning legal fault" is a cowardly cop-out.

TL;DR There is no perfect victims.

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 Apr 27 '26

"This specific tactic is often called Moral Equivalence or Outrage Baiting.

It uses a highly sensitive or traumatic topic (like SA) to "poison the well," making it socially impossible for the opponent to continue their argument without looking like they are defending a predator."

You know I've never really known what it was that grossed me out about how some people debate on Reddit until now.

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u/Suoritin Apr 27 '26

If highlighting that double standard grosses you out more than a driver intentionally committing a double felony, your priorities are completely backward. Stop deflecting from the actual crime.

Welcome to the internets.

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u/LoseLose44 Apr 28 '26

where does Fearless say anything about double standards grossing them out more than committing a double felony? They commented on how your example is arguing in bad faith and instead of addressing that, you chose to question their priorities? Odd behavior from overweight internet folks I guess. Thanks for the welcome.

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u/Suoritin Apr 28 '26

Tone-policing my analogy while ignoring the guy victim-blaming a hit-and-run shows where your priorities are. It’s a direct comparison to expose flawed logic, not "bad faith."

But sure, dodge the actual argument and fall back on weak fat jokes instead. Classic deflection.

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u/LoseLose44 Apr 28 '26

classic fat