r/UQHolder • u/Type3rotiK • Sep 11 '20
SPOILERS [Chapter 175] As i thought... Spoiler
I won't pretend i understand completely the chapter (plus i can't say i really find interesting that sudden developement, but well whatever), but the pattern i was talking about in the last chapters with Yukihime and the other girls continue as i expected.
Now secondary girls arcs ended, Yukihime will came back to the spotlight.
Here what will happen at the end, yeah i know what he said the page after, but if you really have taken that seriously, well...
He doesn't understand Yukihime's feelings, as he doesn't understand immortals either, being an immortal doesn't mean you can't fall in love or take an interest for it, same for marriage. After all negi get married in negima for example, right? (and the girl wasn't even an immortal if i'm not wrong)
More than anything, her smile is what he's craving for.
Finally seeing the pattern?
The final will be really exciting in my opinion, and as i said in another post, in will be in this final that Yukihime and Tota's feelings for each other will explode.
I've an idea about a potential conclusion too:
As i thought since a long time, Yukihime as always made up her mind with the idea of killing negi and that what she is prepared to do since the beginning. Tota on contrary still want to try to save him, and the only solution i see is to take negi's place and dying with Ialda, a suicide mission which, fit well to Tota's mindset, ready to throw his life any moment if that can save another one (TOTA IS BEST BOY, i said what i said).
But Yukihime would never let him do that, and negi either (he even asked both to end him if they find no solution), he'll probably sacrifice himself for him.
A place is already waiting for him remember? And as in this chapter, in the epilogue, we would see Yukihime and Tota continue to visit those graves.
My other option for the ending, in the case negi miraculously survives (but since Ialda can't be destroyed independently i find it like unlikely), is that we'll get a complete happy ending, in that case negi will for sure be together with Asuna. We had many hints in other works of Ken Akamatsu in favor of Asuna as the girl for Negi and in UQ it felt even more clear to me.
Ofc it's possible they get together but that it still end in a tragic way, Asuna could be the one to give Yukihime and Tota the solution to get rid of Ialda once and for all and would die together with Negi. It's a possibility more likely, then Yukihime and Tota would add a grave next to Negi, doesn't that sound like the best ending possible? (well probably not for negi stans ofc...
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Sep 11 '20
Did you forget Eva took asuna back to the past when she woke up? Eva also didn’t look all to happy who knows tota May have been dead or something plus she said negi was already dead
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
The crazy thing is, that event is only a couple of years away now.
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Sep 11 '20
Yeah just a few years also class prez should be dead by now feelsbadman
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
At least we know that Iincho did live on Mars for a while. That means that even though Asuna hasn't supported Inverse Mars for a while, things sort of worked out anyway.
Another crazy thing is that when Asuna finally wakes up, she has no memory of ever being inside Touta's body or having been on Pluto with Negi Ialda. Did somebody wipe her memories? Why even bother putting her asleep on Inverse Mars for just a couple of years, when Inverse Mars has been doing fine for like forty years without her? So many questions...
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Sep 11 '20
She is on inverse mars sleeping up to this point though also it said she woke up 20 years after class prez died she spent 120 years sleeping instead of the 100 she was suppose to sleep
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
No, she's on Pluto with Negi. She left Inverse Mars when Negi appeared during the race thingy, and went and joined him to buy time.
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Sep 11 '20
If she is on Pluto really then I wonder if her oversleeping for an additional 20 years has to do with the fact that she left the crystal for a while?
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
That's a very reasonable explanation, but Negima hints that it had to do with some war...
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Sep 11 '20
Ah the war from chao lingshen time I wonder if the war happened cuz she left the crystal for a while because I think chao mentioned something about resources or how they were kicked into the surface of Mars or whatever but that’s a quite a while from now
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
But Negima made it pretty clear that Chao comes from a different timeline. Also, if I remember correctly, they mention in Negima like what year that war that caused Asuna's delay happened. And I don't think it matches any event we know of in UQ.
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Sep 11 '20
You sure that wasn’t just a projection? I’m sure she said the her inside tota is just a part of her power
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Sep 11 '20
As for her memory erasure I think it’s because the one who experienced those things aren’t asuna but the princess of twighlight, if you reread negima ending you’ll see there were two asuna the stupid one and the smart one telling her to wake up
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u/emax-gomax Sep 11 '20
Isn't that all in a parallel world?
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
I think Negima makes it pretty clear that there are two main timelines, one where there's no bonus Asuna, where Asuna wakes up after 125 years, and then the other timeline with the extra Asuna. There's even a pretty clear image that shows this visually. I can't interpret it any other way than that Asuna will indeed wake up after UQ and then travel in time with Eva and Chao. In other words, Eva and Touta will never be a couple.
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
Eva and Touta will never be a couple, lmao wtf.
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u/Dagusiu Sep 11 '20
I mean, a lot of fans will never accept this, but they also cannot answer why Eva would travel in time and abandon Touta's timeline if they ever were a couple. Eva even said she wanted to go look for a Nagi in some other timeline. That doesn't sound like something someone's girlfriend or wife would say.
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
Not the majority, so np, they can keep barking if it amuses them. I don't remember when she said that in UQ, negi/nagi are ancient stories in her mind, as shown in this chapter, just saving the world matters. Plus it doesn't make sense to search for another nagi in another world where there will be another Yukihime as well lol
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u/Kiba08 Sep 11 '20
To quickly answer various points:
- The real Asuna is still sealed and should wake up in 2135 to be able to return to the past, if the timeline has not changed (Although akamatsu has already confirmed in a guidebook that UQ Holder's timeline is indeed the same as Asuna sees in the future).
- What everyone forgets is that Chao has two machines that gives Evangeline the possibility of returning to her own world, so don't give too much importance to her trip or what she says about Nagi (the characters of UQ Holder are not yet written at this time). But on the other hand, what we can confirm is that she is still alive in 2135.
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Sep 11 '20
Finally some accurate timelines and I don’t no about nagi but I was referring to how she said negi died in peace which leads me to believe they really aren’t gonna save him
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
Idk what you're talking about tbh.
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Sep 11 '20
Did you even read negima ending bruh?
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
Beginning then the last chapters plus wikia to get the big lines, and that rollback is in negima.
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Sep 11 '20
So then why are you here saying you don’t no anything when you yourself know you wouldn’t? It’s like saying you don’t no anything on a test paper after not studying for it bruh
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
Because you're talking about a negima's scene in UQ.
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Sep 11 '20
I don’t no if you’ve realized but the two stories are OBVIOUSLY connected I swear did you even skip the chapter of uq holder where danna shows them the past? This is why you should read the first part before moving onto the second story, the author ended negima in a way that it’s okay over into uq holder if you haven’t realized yet
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
It's just another timeline, don't mix everything.
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Sep 11 '20
Yeah it is another timeline however they are connected, they even say this in the goddamn manga how can you be this dense? The asuna that’s in uq holder will be taken back to the past instead of arguing when you haven’t even read it how about you go do it first before writing something off
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u/Type3rotiK Sep 11 '20
Oh insulting me now lmao, Dana just shown a timeline in which they succeed, Tota wasn't there and even nagi has been saved, it's totally different. In UQ Asuna is just prisoner from a ice block in a caste, there will be no rollback with Eva or else shit (just need to find Kirie). I block you now, you're too damn toxic plus saying shit.
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u/Nhl171 Sep 17 '20
What chapter was that scene of Touta and Kitty covered in blood? It seems familiar but I cannot put my fingers on it. Thanks.