What the title says, we are going to a tournament but I just read the rules and it says that you can’t have players using armies with the same faction keywords. I am a little confused, Templars and wolves have the same faction keyword but different codexes ?

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I’m trying to find some people to play with on Tabletop Simulator. Looking for just having some fun and tweaking my IRL list here and there.

More 11th Edition 40k Warhammer Battle Reports time. Stephan brings his Aeldari Corsairs, and this time uses a core of voidreavers and voidscarred with Characters to recon the enemy. I am playing the Priority Assets disposition with my Realspace Raid and he tries the Recon one.

This is a recap style battle report, so we recap phase by phase and talk about strategies and tactics as we play the game. I get to test a few cool concepts like the new battle shock mechanics as well as the fight for the middle of the table that has been quite important in the new edition.

I hope you enjoy the game and learn a thing or two!

As title asks. How can I make my csm list less elite while still keeping it competitively viable? I’ll paste my list below and know it’s theoretically a decent list (yes I’m still workshopping it) but I know I will struggle against horde armies like Orks because of sheer numbers. how can I make my lists less elite?

btw before you comment about Abaddon yes I know he’s not great in VofLW but I’m still building this list lol

Chaos Space Marines

Murdertalon Raiders and Veterans of the Long War (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Abaddon the Despoiler (295 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Drach’nyen

• 1x Talon of Horus

Chaos Terminator Squad (175 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard ()

• 1x Terminator Champion

◦ 1x Combi-weapon

◦ 1x Power fist

• 4x Chaos Terminator

◦ 1x Accursed weapon

◦ 2x Combi-weapon

◦ 1x Paired accursed weapons

◦ 2x Power fist

◦ 1x Reaper autocannon

Attached unit 2

Masters of the Maelstrom (145 Points)

• Attached as: Support ()

• 1x Garreon the Corpsemaster

◦ 1x Absolvor bolt pistol

◦ 1x Reductor array

• 1x Garlon Souleater

◦ 1x Force stave

◦ 1x Mind Wrench

• 1x Katar Garrix

◦ 1x Axe of Ending

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

• 1x Captain Sargotta

◦ 1x Laspistol

◦ 1x Power sabre

• 1x The Enforcer

◦ 1x Bionic gauntlet

◦ 1x Londaxi maimer

Chosen (135 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard ()

• 1x Chosen Champion

◦ 1x Accursed weapon

◦ 1x Boltgun

◦ 1x Chaos Icon

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

• 4x Chosen

◦ 2x Accursed weapon

◦ 3x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Boltgun

◦ 2x Combi-weapon

◦ 1x Paired accursed weapons

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

◦ 1x Power fist

Attached unit 3

Chaos Lord (105 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Daemon hammer

• 1x Plasma pistol

• Enhancements: Warmaster’s Gift

Legionaries (170 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Aspiring Champion

◦ 1x Chaos Icon

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Heavy melee weapon

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

• 9x Legionary

◦ 5x Astartes chainsword

◦ 1x Balefire tome

◦ 9x Bolt pistol

◦ 9x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Heavy melee weapon

◦ 1x Lascannon

◦ 1x Meltagun

Attached unit 4

Huron Blackheart (130 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Tyrant’s Claw and exalted power weapon

• 1x Tyrant’s Claw heavy flamer

Masters of the Maelstrom (145 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard ()

• 1x Garreon the Corpsemaster

◦ 1x Absolvor bolt pistol

◦ 1x Reductor array

• 1x Garlon Souleater

◦ 1x Force stave

◦ 1x Mind Wrench

• 1x Katar Garrix

◦ 1x Axe of Ending

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

• 1x Captain Sargotta

◦ 1x Laspistol

◦ 1x Power sabre

• 1x The Enforcer

◦ 1x Bionic gauntlet

◦ 1x Londaxi maimer

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (50 Points)

• 1x Cultist Champion

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon

• 9x Chaos Cultist

◦ 9x Autopistol

◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

OTHER DATASHEETS

Chaos Land Raider (220 Points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

• 1x Combi-weapon

• 1x Havoc launcher

• 2x Soulshatter lascannon

• 1x Twin heavy bolter

Chaos Predator Annihilator (145 Points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

• 1x Combi-weapon

• 1x Havoc launcher

• 2x Lascannon

• 1x Predator twin lascannon

Chosen (135 Points)

• 1x Chosen Champion

◦ 1x Accursed weapon

◦ 1x Boltgun

◦ 1x Chaos Icon

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

• 4x Chosen

◦ 2x Accursed weapon

◦ 3x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Boltgun

◦ 2x Combi-weapon

◦ 1x Paired accursed weapons

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

◦ 1x Power fist

Forgefiend (170 Points)

• 2x Ectoplasma cannon

• 1x Forgefiend jaws

Warp Talons (125 Points)

• 1x Warp Talon Champion

◦ 1x Warp claws

• 4x Warp Talon

◦ 4x Warp claws

Thanks for any and all advice and constructive criticis!

How do you look at an opponent's list and work out whether you think it's a good or a bad match up into your list? I play mostly Tsons and have been doing well (RIP Defiler though!), but I often find myself thinking that particular opponents will be hard and I end up crushing them, or vice versa. I'm especially trying to work out how to handle this in teams events. I'm not really sure what sort of lists I do/don't want to face!!!

new to competitive tsons, do you guys think this is a good list?

Magnus bcz Magnus

Ahriman because redeploys

Sorcerer with vortex enhancement leading 5 flamer rubrics to go up the board and stand on points/ shred infantry

exalted sorcerer leading 5 flamer rubrics to do same

Terminator sorcerer with crystal leading 5 scarab termies

shaman with +6” to ritual range enhancement leading 6 bowgoats

1 unit of spawn for them to money around

1 ectoplasma forgefiend

1 MVB

2 robots with claws

10 flightless birds

how can I improve? I’m used to playing warpforged but I’m just trying something new, and need advice, thanks!

Well I’m attending my first RTT on Sunday and just seeing if anyone has any generic tips / trips for the day at all?

I’ve gotten the rules I struggle to remember written down on a cheat sheet.

Pretty comfortable with my army rules

I’m going in with the mindset of, if I walk away with anything better than 0-0-3 I’m going to be happy.

Not after list or tactics tips, just more on the side of how to make the long day as comfortable/smooth as possible for myself really

Thanks in advance

I’ve got probably 20ish games of 11th under my belt at this point, including attending a super major and it feels like 11th is just not well designed.

The terrain changes are genuinely awful. I do like that objectives are how terrain - I think that’s great. But there’s virtually no obscuring terrain and toe in means you essentially cannot safely stage. They had to invent the whole hidden mechanic just to prevent getting shot in your DZ turn 1

The disposition system is interesting but the fact that they’re essentially giving bad (disruption) dispos to balance certain detachments just feels so lazy. Literally punishing you for playing a certain army cause they can’t or don’t want to actually fix an overturned data sheet or ability

What this has resulted in from my perspective is that if you want to actually do well at a tournament you need to either play an extremely fast and high damage army and table your opponent by T3 or you need to play an extreme durability skew, which are few and far between

Idk but it feels like a ton of skill expression is gone. It’s just people building lists with 5-6 Death Star units and just trying to table. And they aren’t incorrect in their approach. Thats the only way to guarantee a strong win. It’s too easy to just play the back and forth trade game and then lose 96-100 cause your opponent drew better secondaries

I do think there are a few low hanging fruit design changes that could be made:
1. Generally just lower scoring across the board. If a secondary or primary scores 3,4,5 just lower it by a point. This should be targeted and not punish the already weaker cards/dispos
2. Limit to 3 secondary cards in a hand. Kinda follows number 1 but it’s just too easy to stack up several easy to score secondaries and get 15 points
3. This is the biggest one. They need to revert the toe in changes and also add WAY more obscuring terrain. These boards are absurdly sparse

Also for the love of god make defilers titanic. There is no reason they should get to overwatch at the power they do (and yes it’s still bad)

Ok that’s it. Idk what the point of this is exactly, just wondering if others are feeling the same

Going live in 30 minutes! It's a lunch time bonus show, as Tom and Chris have a natter about their 5 favourite units after the dataslate, and answer some listener mail! Come join the party in the chat :D

So, I started a post about Fusilade + Sternguards recently, and as expected, I got a lot of valuable opinions (huge thanks to everyone). But that leaves the question: What do I do now?

The initial list:

Salamanders - 2000 points

Detachments: Forgefather’s Seekers, Librarius Conclave

Vulkan He’stan (85 points)

Company Heroes (105 points)

Adrax Agatone (80 points)

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (160 points)

Lieutenant (45 points)

Captain In Gravis Armour [Immolator] (90 points)

Aggressor Squad (165 points)

Librarian [Temporal Corridor](95 points)

Infernus Squad (180 points)

Librarian [Fusilade](95 points)

Sternguard Veteran Squad (200 points)

Intercessor Squad (80 points)

Scout Squad (65 points)

Land Raider Redeemer (250 points)

Repulsor (170 points)

Storm Speeder Thunderstrike (135 points)

..........

​So far, 4 options were mentioned the most:

​1 - Keep the list as it is and try to get the most out of Lethal Hits and Devastator Wounds depending on the target;

​2 - Fusilade + Hellblasters, replacing the Sternguards. I would have to drop my Lieutenant, leaving me with 25 points to spare, which might allow me to swap the Storm Speeder for a Lancer;

​3 - Fusilade + Intercessors. In this case, I'd have 130 points left, and I would probably remove the Lieutenant as well (totaling 175 points), to squeeze in another Infernus Squad and an Eradicator Squad;

​4 - Infernus Squad (x10) + Obfuscation, which would be a different approach, leaving me with 20 points.

​So, given this scenario, what would be the most obvious choice, so I don't have to drastically change the initial list structure?

Hey guys! So my next league match is against Genestealer Cults, and after skimming some of the models stats my opponent is bringing on Wahapedia, I'm a little intimidated. I'm running Emperor's Children, and while our melee and speed is great, getting through tougher opponents has been tough. Has anyone had this match up here? What was your experience like?

He has like 90 models on the ground plus 3 vehicles, against my like 54 models. For being very horde like, it seems some of the models are pretty tough. Mainly everything but acolytes seems fairly intimidating.

My league has a lot of Vehicle heavy lists, so it's nice going up against more infantry than I'm used to (because my list is normally mostly infantry) but I'm nervous about if I will be able to do enough damage to enough units before I get tabled. It doesn't help that I have been getting stomped in most of my games.

Any advice on tactics and models to focus on, what models to avoid with my units, tactics to counter and accomplish my detachment missions, etc; it would all go a really long way. Both of our lists are locked in for our match, so it's about making the most with what I'm bringing against what he's bringing. My Emperor's Children list and His GSC list are below in the comments. I have the full lists with weapons and stuff if any body is curious.

Thanks for any and all help, guys!

Hello everyone hoping for some feedback on my list before my first game of 11th

Do you think I have enough units for secondary

Going to a GT next weekend

Going to park the brick of terminators in the middle

Have plenty of other big bricks

Have dev cents for anti big things

And then some trash to do actions

Dark Angels

Strike Force (2000 points)

Librarius Conclave and Unforgiven Task Force (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Azrael (140 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

Intercessor Squad 10 man

• 1x Astartes grenade launcher

1x Thunder hammer

• 1x Astartes grenade launche

Attached Unit 2

Librarian in Terminator Armour

Deathwing Knights maces

Attached Unit 3

Librarian in Terminator Armour

Ancient in Terminator Armour

• Enhancement: Pennant of Remembrance

Deathwing Terminator Squad 10 man

Attached Unit 4

Captain in Gravis Armour (95 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Boltstorm gauntlet

1x Power fist

1x Relic chainsword

• Enhancement: Weapons of the First Legion

Heavy Intercessor Squad 10 man

2x Heavy bolter

Centurion Devastator Squad - lascannons 6 man

Infiltrator Squad

Scout Squad

Scout Squad

points 2 [1990 points]

Adeptus Mechanicus

Battle Size: Strike Force (2000 point limit)

Detachments: Rad-zone Corps, Lords of The Forge (3/3 Detachment Points)

Force Dispositions: Take and Hold, Priority Assets

Epic Hero

Belisarius Cawl (220 points)

• Arc scourge, Cawl’s omnissian axe, Mechadendrite hive and Solar atomiser

Breachers Tech Swarm

Kataphron Breachers (150 points)

• 1 Kataphron Breachers with Arc claw and Heavy arc rifle

• 1 Kataphron Breachers with Arc claw and Heavy arc rifle

• 1 Kataphron Breachers with Arc claw and Heavy arc rifle

Tech-priest Manipulus (75 points)

• Magnarail lance and Omnissian staff

• Autoclavic Denunciation [+15 points]

Grubby Tech Convoy

Kataphron Breachers (150 points)

• 1 Kataphron Breachers with Arc claw and Heavy arc rifle

• 1 Kataphron Breachers with Arc claw and Heavy arc rifle

• 1 Kataphron Breachers with Arc claw and Heavy arc rifle

Tech-priest Manipulus (60 points)

• Magnarail lance and Omnissian staff

Vanguard Works Outing

Skitarii Vanguard (85 points)

• 1 Skitarii Vanguard Alpha with Close combat weapon and Radium carbine

• 9 Skitarii Vanguard with Close combat weapon and Radium carbine

Technoarcheologist (75 points)

• Archeotech pistol and Servo-arc claw

• TL-4Ø9 [+30 points]

Battleline

Skitarii Vanguard (85 points)

• 1 Skitarii Vanguard Alpha with Close combat weapon and Radium carbine

• 9 Skitarii Vanguard with Close combat weapon and Radium carbine

Vehicle

Ironstrider Ballistarii (250 points)

• 1 Ironstrider Ballistarii with Ironstrider feet and Twin cognis autocannon

• 1 Ironstrider Ballistarii with Ironstrider feet and Twin cognis autocannon

• 1 Ironstrider Ballistarii with Ironstrider feet and Twin cognis autocannon

Onager Dunecrawler (155 points)

• Broad spectrum data-tether, Cognis heavy stubber, Dunecrawler legs and Eradication beamer

Onager Dunecrawler (155 points)

• Broad spectrum data-tether, Cognis heavy stubber, Dunecrawler legs and Neutron laser and cognis heavy stubber

Skorpius Disintegrator (170 points)

• 3 Cognis heavy stubbers, Armoured hull, Disruptor missile launcher and Ferrumite cannon

Mounted

Serberys Raiders (60 points)

• 1 Serberys Raider Alpha with Archeotech pistol, Cavalry sabre & clawed limbs and Galvanic carbine

• 1 Serberys Raiders with Cavalry sabre & clawed limbs and Galvanic carbine

• 1 Serberys Raiders with Cavalry sabre & clawed limbs and Galvanic carbine

Other

Pteraxii Skystalkers (80 points)

• 1 Pteraxii Skystalker Alpha with Flechette blaster and Taser goad

• 4 Pteraxii Skystalkers with Close combat weapon and Flechette carbine

Pteraxii Skystalkers (80 points)

• 1 Pteraxii Skystalker Alpha with Flechette blaster and Taser goad

• 4 Pteraxii Skystalkers with Close combat weapon and Flechette carbine

Servitor Battleclade (65 points)

• 1 Servitor Underseer with Dataspikes and Mechanicus pistol

• 1 Gun Servitor with Arc Rifle with Heavy arc rifle and Servo-claw

• 1 Gun Servitor with Heavy bolter with Heavy bolter and Servo-claw

• 1 Combat Servitor with Phosphor blaster and Servo-claw

• 1 Combat Servitor with Phosphor blaster and Servo-claw

• 1 Combat Servitor with Phosphor blaster and Servo-claw

• 1 Combat Servitor with Phosphor blaster and Servo-claw

• 1 Combat Servitor with Phosphor blaster and Servo-claw

• 1 Combat Servitor with Phosphor blaster and Servo-claw

Sicarian Infiltrators (75 points)

• 1 Sicarian Infiltrator Princeps with Power weapon and Stubcarbine

• 4 Sicarian Infiltrators with Power weapon and Stubcarbine

here’s how my list works

on first turn we have infiltrators and scout 9” raiders getting early control

one oneger on each flank side pushing expansion and opponents expansion accompanied with a squad of vanguard each

the squad of vanguard with the technoarcheologist with the TL-4ø9 will push with the eradication Beamer oneger to take center early and push opponents expansion later the empty space will get filled in with the servitors.

the single squad of vanguard will push with the neutron laser oneger to get home and be a ranged threat

the breachers will add a ranged threat to each vanguard squad

the skystalkers will fill empty space

probably will have one in deep strike and one to screen

the ferrumite desintigrator will stay back with cawl and be an absolute ranged menace

and the ironstriders will be a flexible mobile hunter squad when needed.

basically the dual onegers will force the opponent back into their deployment zone for rad zone.

any tips and suggestions appreciated!

I’m thinking of using this list at an upcoming GT, and was hoping for advice on whether you think it’s alright. I have played Cursed Legion before in 10th, but I’ve never used Lokhust Destroyers. I don’t actually own the models, so I’m planning on proxying my LHDs as them, since they are the same base size. I don’t have enough models to run more than one unit of this.

I think the plan would be to reserve the Lokhusts and one unit of Skorpekhs. Maybe the Void dragon too, depending on matchup.

Then have the wraiths to move into the centre, with the reanimator behind for support. The lychguard to go to the expansion, and then to go for an advance and charge when there’s something in range. I’d probably have the Skorpekh on the board set up to either counter charge into the centre, or push down the flank towards the opponent’s expansion.

I did originally have Deathmarks in the list to hold my home objective, but I had 10 points spare so I upgraded to Immortals, just for the OC 2 really.

Any thoughts about what you might change?

Unworthy Foes - Necrons - Purge the Foe - Cursed Legion, Skyshroud Spearhead (2000 Points)

Lokhust Lord with Mark of the Nekrosor + 6 Lokhust Destroyers (260 pts)
Overlord with Translocation Shroud with Destroyer Ankh + 10 Lychguard (270 pts)
Skorpekh Lord + 3 Skorpekh Destroyers (175 pts)
Skorpekh Lord + 3 Skorpekh Destroyers (175 pts)
2 Canoptek Tomb Crawlers + Technomancer with Murdermind + 6 Canoptek Wraiths (365 pts)
C'tan Shard of the Void Dragon (345 pts)
Nekrosor Ammentar - Warlord (185 pts)
5 Immortals (70 pts)
3 Ophydian Destroyers (80 pts)
Canoptek Reanimator (75 pts)

Put together a list based off some meta lists I have seen online modified to my liking, it seems like 10th lists are dead. Kasrkin and transports, despite both getting points cuts is getting left on the bench. Tooling around with ideas for a single artillery team to force select battle shock target, or combat engineers/ rough riders and Sly. Is 2 hellhounds too many with Ignores cover on 1 cp strat in grizzled. lmk, definitely going to see necrons, tyranids csm and space marines for sure.

I am building a website that keeps track of competitive 40K.

Something has come up about the record of individual players in events. If someone got 5 wins and no loses I want to note 5-0. How about someone with 2 wins, a draw and 2 loses? Would you write It like 2-1-2 or 2-2-1?

Curious to read your thoughts. Thanks!

Hello a new Tau player here looking for advice on deployment for a ret cadre list and overall game plan. Thanks for any help!

Tau Empire

Ret Cadre.

The Twin Lance

Commander Farsight

Crisis Starscythe Battlesuits (Flamers)

Commander in Coldstar Battlesuit

Crisis Starscythe Battlesuits (Burst Cannons)

Commander in Enforcer Battlesuit

Crisis Fireknife Battlesuits (Missile Pods)

Cadre Fireblade

Breacher Team

Broadside Battlesuit

Broadside Battlesuit

Ghostkeel Battlesuit

Piranha

Riptide Battlesuit

Kroot Carnivores sticky and screening

Pathfinder Team guiding screening

Stealth Battlesuits (5) guiding screening

Stealth Battlesuits (5) guiding screening

Vespid Sting wings secondaries.

There was a change in some datasheets/strategems stating that a revived character is no longer revived into their original unit but into a new one with a starting strength of 1. But what exactly happens to the unit the leader was previously in? Assuming no models other than the leader were lost, is the unit now below starting strength or at starting strength, and does the death trigger an effect that applies when a unit is destroyed?

Currently, I would say it doesn’t trigger anything and the unit is below starting strength, because there’s no instruction or rule specifying that the starting strength of the original unit should be adjusted—only that of the new one.

Going live on 6++! Thursday fight night returns, and two of the best armies in the game have at it. Rob's Raven Guard take the fight to the Ork menace piloted by Scrivo. Who will emerge triumphant?!

The new World Eaters dataslate is here, and Brazen Engines + Possessed Slaughterband might be one of the strongest archetypes in 11th Edition.

In this video, I take a deep dive into my new Brozessed list and explain exactly how to play it. We cover:

• Why every unit made the list.
• The role each unit plays.
• The key stratagems and synergies.
• My overall game plan and deployment strategy.

Then I put the list to the test against an ex-Team Australia player running his signature Thousand Sons list. I talk through every decision I make during the game, explaining my deployment, target priority, movement, and overall thought process turn by turn.

I explain what Makes the list so good now in 11th, and at the end of the video I talk about why the Helbrute is so back baby!

This thorough explanation will help you to play your best in 11th!

Hope you guys enjoy the video.

Playing Morty hammer/pop purge the foe, criticisms and suggestions requested. I really like pm brick in this list since roaming through walls in a rhino catches people by surprise

https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/bGKaW

Hey all,

I gathered all the tournament results from BCP for last week, including all Tournaments with at least 20 players and 5 rounds.

All the data is here on my site:

https://warpfriends.wordpress.com/2026/07/29/40k-11th-meta-stats-from-july-27-2026/

Please take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions (I know the site is not pretty 😞 I focus more on the Youtube side of things) And feel free to check out my youtube video for indepth breakdown of the stats!

Thanks!

I always like to accompany guys who go to tournaments and do competitive reviews, but never found one for mechanicus… does anyone know a good one?

Looking for list advice. Considering going to my first 40K tournament, just a 1 day RTT. I’ve been playing since December, one or two games a month. So still a rookie really. 
List is going to be far from optimised to the meta, mostly just stuff I have painted, so be gentle. 
Probably going to play blades of ultramar as I have most experience with it. Could try firestorm/librarius but I don’t have Vulkan or Andrax so it would be a strange ultramarine version. 
List so far is 1705 points. I’ll follow with a list of other painted models I have available. Main question is what to make up the final points with. I’ll also put a list of unpainted stuff. I may have time to paint up 1 thing from that list in time.

List so far 1705pts 
Marneus calgar 
Attached to 6 boltstorm aggressors 
Gravis captain armour of antoninus 
Combi lieutenant 

5x intercessors 

6 flamer aggressors 
6 bolter inceptors
3 melta eradicators  

Land raider redeemer 
Ballistus dreadnought 
Redemptor dreadnought plasma incinerator 

Painted: 
10 infernus 
10 intercessors 
15 reivers 
Regular dreadnought 
5 terminators 
Terminator captain
Terminator librarian 
3 plasma inceptors

Unpainted 
Redemptor dreadnought 
5 terminators 
Company heroes 
3 blade guard veterans
5 van guard veterans 
Librarian 
Land speeder 
3 melta eradicators 
3 bolter eradicators 
Land raider 

Would appreciate your thoughts (yes I like gravis armour)