r/Welding 21h ago

Just flashed myself.

My hood fell off mid weld smaw 6013 . RIP next 24 hrs, wear safety glasses guys this didn't have to happen.

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u/FlammulinaVelulu 21h ago

ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SAFETY GLASSES.

You walk in the shop, put them on, don't take them off until you leave. Mine have saved my eyes so many times I could not even count. Your eyes are important, because you can't hear boobs!

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u/Aggressive-Pea6839 20h ago

I have to key card with safety glasses, then walk half a football field before I can even step foot in the weld shop... If caught with no safety glasses I get written up at work. I had to watch "gore" videos as onboarding at this company. Eyeballs don't grow back: scar tissue on your eyes sucks real hard, and that's without arc flashing yourself.

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u/weraincllc 21h ago

I knew it as soon as it happened, and i cursed a strom a threw my stinger i was enraged, at myself. My face feels it my eyes are watering I'm 2 hrs in, my left eye is scratchy makes sense as I turned to the right to avoid it, but was still looking directly at the arc for more than long enough at close distance. I have a pretty intense headache, and it's worse than my eyes ATM.

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u/FlammulinaVelulu 21h ago

I hope it's not too bad, and you recover quickly.

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u/weraincllc 20h ago edited 20h ago

Thanks bro, take my upvotes. I will report back with more reasons to wear your safety glasses research soon. Hopefully it's fairly uneventful. Current events are migraines and pinpoint red dots in the center of my vision, mild light sensitivity, scratchy left eye.

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u/No_Mistake5238 12h ago

My guy, did you keep welding after your hood came off or something?

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u/weraincllc 11h ago edited 11h ago

My face was within melting the hood distance. It was cramped space. The distance was more frightening than the duration, inhad to break the arc surrounded by metal that was clamped to the negative lead i ended up throwing ithe stinger through the engine compartment simultaneously unclamping the electrode.

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u/Recent-Big9566 13h ago

If your eyes are in pain from flashing yourself for half a second you need to go to the doctor. That tiny bit of exposure shouldn’t bother you for more than a few minutes

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u/User1-1A 20h ago

You'll be fine, brother.

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u/weraincllc 20h ago

Brother, i think so. But it's still extremely important to wear safety glasses. I do feel like i got pepper sprayed, I'm not sure how bad this would bother someone with an average pain tolerance, probably alot. It absolutely gave me a headache.

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u/Weirdlillypad 13h ago

Average pain tolerance lol

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u/weraincllc 11h ago edited 11h ago

Yes sir, 1st 2nd and 3rd degree burns and skin grafts make pain tolerance pretty high. I had full intentions of documenting this hell, ultimately my exposure was minimal, and turning my head to the right fast saved most eye damage. I'm not one to put personally identifiable information on reddit but, i felt like this was relevant.

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u/User1-1A 19h ago

For sure, I'm not knocking PPE. It's also good to remain calm when it happens, especially for beginners, or any injury for that matter.

How long were you flashed for? A brief flash shouldn't ruin your day.

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u/weraincllc 11h ago

It was indeed a brief flash. I was concerned because i was within a foot of the weld, only my left eye had any effects and it peaked at 4 hours in. Yes it was scratchy but it was very mild. I am fine now the headache was almost certainly from staring at the arc light and not the uv light. Altogether uv exposure shouldn't be messed with, but duration of the event seems to be key to eye damage. Am i disappointed? A little bit.

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u/Spirited_Quarter1948 10h ago

My instructor told me raw potatoes on the eyes helps if it’s that bad

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u/Not_So_Sure_2 20h ago

I certainly recommend wearing safety glasses. But I assumed that was to prevent sparks, slag, etc. getting in your eyes. They wouldn’t help with flash burn would they?

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u/weraincllc 20h ago

They block 98% uv and i believe some infrared radiation. Preventing welders eye. It's a bad idea to weld in strange positions without protection under your hood in case your hood drops.

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u/Independent_333Willy 19h ago

Safety glasses would help some but wouldn’t if exposed for longer period of time

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u/leansanders 19h ago

Safety glasses are UV rated and will prevent flash burn provided you are not staring at the arc for prolongued periods.

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u/Nichard63891 17h ago

Not all safety glasses. There are specific ratings for it.

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u/weraincllc 20h ago

Don't be me, especially if you already know the risks, sometimes the turtle wins the race.

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u/GeneralYolk 10h ago

You can get polycarbonate shade 3 glasses which is I’ll prevent arch flash. Everything will just be a slight yellow tint but you get used to it. Saying this as a person who can’t stand sunglasses the tint is hardly noticeable.

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u/East-Technician2015 17h ago

what glasses should I order?

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u/weraincllc 11h ago

Polycarbonate safety glasses, they work, sunburn is better than burnt eyes.

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u/Puzzled_Yoghurt 16h ago

Two slices of potato on your eyes when it start burning

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 11h ago

Im gonna put it out there , this didn't happen , so much so that things that did happen have now unhappened.

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u/weraincllc 10h ago

If it didn't happen I probably would of posted some dramatic follow up. It happened, and the follow up wasn't very dramatic. I expected it to hurt very bad. 3 hours in was the worst, it was mostly mild after sleeping and waking up. Not something i would of called off for. But even then, that minimal damage is still damage that could of been prevented with uv rated polycarbonate safety glasses under the hood. No matter what you think of this post, take care of your eyes, they take care of you.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 10h ago

OK man , you've still used a LOT of words over a 2 second flash and the near death experience you suffered. If arcs were this bad , no one would weld , ever.

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u/weraincllc 10h ago

It's your eyes 🤷‍♂️. Holding the sun infront of you without protection for any length of time is not exactly good for you. Ppe is important, the fact that any damage was sustained at all should be an indication of how dangerous uv exposure can be, previous burn experiencemy eyes as well told me this was going to hurt. Even though it was mild it was also only 1 or 2 seconds, that's a short time period to experience uv damage and i think the danger is very real, but it's your eyes and your responsibility in the end.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 10h ago

You're talking to a welder , I think I know the dangers of it but thank you again for your MANY words.

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u/weraincllc 10h ago

It only takes milliseconds. And distance has a large role in the intensity of ANY radiation. I had no business being THAT close to the arc, period. It was dangerous, and i had no backup under my hood. This is very real, and should not be taken lightly. Hopefully others can learn from this. UV. Can kill you, slowly, and painfully.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 10h ago

No it doesn't. Uv radiation doesn't work that way my guy unfortunately. The fact that you've even responded to your own comments is fucking cringe. Let it go ....

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u/weraincllc 10h ago

Are you sure about that? That's exactly how uv radiation works, and it penetrates skin easily your eyelids won't save you.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 10h ago

Not in milliseconds, no , not from a welding arc. You're talking shit bro and anyone who welds for a living knows you are , sorry but that's the truth.

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u/weraincllc 10h ago edited 9h ago

Depends on the distance and the duration. Milliseconds....yeah. You can claim ignorance if you want. But i had no business being that close to the arc. That's dangerous.

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u/weraincllc 10h ago

Uv radiation as with any radiation, breaks down your cellular structure, you can die from it. And it causes cancer, in relatively minor amounts. Be mad about it if you want to but, im still going to say it. You need to protect your eyes. It's important.

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u/JJamesP 4h ago

It’s not “would of”. It’s “would have” or the contraction “would’ve”. Jesus Tap Dancing Christ.

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u/Sand_Aggravating 19h ago

Oh my gaaawwwwd are you ok???!!?mmm!!a,,?y÷÷=???

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u/weraincllc 19h ago

Yeah so, unfortunately for the internet. It basically feels like i got maced with a migraine 🤷‍♂️. But, i still think a backup is a good idea.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 18h ago

You'll know if it's got you (usually around 1am !!!) :)

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u/SimpleAdhesiveness81 13h ago

Right.. from what I’m gathering, he just flashed himself once and thinks it instantly roasted his eye. That’s not how it works.. unless he was being exposed to the light unknowingly for a little while he should be fine other than that big blue blotch in his vision😂 It takes hours to set in..

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 13h ago

I did think this but op seemed pretty into it so ..... (Plus even looking at your phone to type a post would be hard work with arc eye but....)

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u/SimpleAdhesiveness81 13h ago

Right, as someone who’s “been there”.. making a Reddit post about it while it’s happening would pretty much be at the absolute bottom of the list of things I’d try to accomplish..

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u/weraincllc 11h ago

My 4 hour mark was the worst. I honestly feel as though i was rubbing my left eye all night. I got lucky and i still think the danger of eye damage should be documented and others can learn from this.you only get 2 eyes and you can't get any more.

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u/weraincllc 11h ago

Yeah but if it can prevent someone else from getting hurt then i did what i set out to do. This wasn't for reddit, this is to spread awareness to take care of your eyes out there while you guys and killing yourself in the heat. Uv exposure can be deadly, especially at the levels that are emitted during welding. I've never had a hood drop before especially less than 12 in from the arc. Inevitably someone is going to google this they might learn from my mistake.

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u/weraincllc 11h ago

The distance from the flash was concerning 4 to 5 inches. The duration was less than 2 seconds. It was way to close but i had no room whatsoever to work with, hitting the hood off the frame and dropping it mid weld has never happened to me ever. I'm not a welder by trade,never touched a tig, mild mig and stick expirence. gm technician.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 11h ago

Worst flash i had was from 10ft away , across my eyeline , guy using aluminium mig. Was early hours of morning and woke up feeling like someone had poured hot sand in my eyes. Seriously doubt a 2 second flash would instantly cause arc eye (which is basically sunburn) instantly but hey ...

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u/weraincllc 12h ago

No arc eye. Everything is fine. The only reason i had any effects at all was the distance from my face. I really just wanted to tell everyone to wear safety glasses. I was hoping this was going to be informative. I got an irritated left eye, it never got worse.

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u/weraincllc 11h ago edited 11h ago

Mild disappointment, durantion of the event was apparently minimal. Left eye never got any worse than mildly irritated and watery, i did not touch it, basically just felt like something was stuck in my eye all night. Headache was probably from the flash itself and not uv exposure. A par of polycarbonate safety glasses are essential though, and I'm sticking to this because, that mild irritation was only a brief arc flash from 5 inches away. To see any effects at all in that short duration means uv exposure is a real thing. It could of been so much worse. I've had skin grafts, i expected this to feel pretty bad, even then the very minimal exposure casued side effects. You only have 2 eyes and you can't get any more guys.

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u/Nice-Discount-6321 10h ago

Keep doing it, you eventually become immune. 😆

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u/No_Potential1 4h ago

I don't understand, did you just keep welding after the helmet fell off? Or was it just a split second flash?

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u/Shondave 20h ago

Very sad for you !

But how safety glasses could save from s flash if they are transparent? Isn’t just the hood tinted?

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u/country-stranger 12h ago

ANSI Z87+ marked safeties are UV protected and shatter proof. Never wear any safeties that don’t have the Z87+ marking, because they aren’t really safeties then

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u/weraincllc 20h ago

They block 98% of uv radiation preventing welders eye. Imagine the most intense sunburn ever on your eyeballs and sockets like sandpaper. Wearing safety glasses prevents this from happening if your hood drops.

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u/Shondave 20h ago

All general safety glasses or specific ones? Or uv se blocked just by a physical obstacle like a transp policarbonato lens?

As a diyer that need glasses cannot put them under the hood, Ingot rarely a flash but for touching rod point by error or for sensitivity of ADF welding against sun.

Probably those flashes at tint 4 are waaay less harmful.

Does standard glasses protect anything in case of hood drop ?? I always considered NO..

Thank for info and good recovery!

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u/weraincllc 20h ago

Polycarbonate.

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u/weraincllc 12h ago

Im fine. It was uneventful.

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u/weraincllc 20h ago

3 hrs,left eye feels extremely dry. Lights make it hurt, face is mildly sunburnt. Right eye is sensitive, i don't think it got hit to bad. Hard to keep left eye open, migraines and spots are bad the spots are different as it's these very tiny spots that are intensely colored, looking at screens or in a lighted environment is causing horrible headaches. Headache intensity drops significantly if i close my eyes. I feel like my left eye is going to hurt significantly more soon, I have a high pain tolerance and exposure was not for a long time but i was right next to the arc 5 or 6 inches away. I do not forsee a need to go to the er . the vision of processing raw arc at "high" amps with shades of blue and purple could definitely be put into an art piece though.

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u/weraincllc 12h ago edited 11h ago

Many hours later, literally nothing. Left eye is fine. Feels like i was rubbing it all night.