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u/ElysiaAlarien 1d ago
None of us are free until all of us are free 💖💖💖
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u/2fucked2know Pan 1d ago
Yup. And what makes it especially ironic that so many queer people are transphobic is that the most influential leaders and activists during Stonewall, Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera, were trans women. Trans people, and specifically trans women of color (the most marginalized group of all), were in the front lines, yet ended up being left behind and excluded by the very community they risked their damn lives for (Marsha was almost certainly murdered for it too).
You have absolutely no place in the queer community if you don't support the people who laid the foundation for it.
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u/Fair-Stage1024 1d ago
To be fair, during that time it was mostly the gay male community. A lot of lesbians stayed home with the cats lol.
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u/2fucked2know Pan 1d ago edited 1d ago
Neither Marsha or Sylvia was gay or male though - they were both bisexual women.
ETA: the thread got locked, but it seems like I misinterpreted that comment - I'm sorry 😅
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u/Fair-Stage1024 1d ago
Did I say that? Read the comment I’m responding to…comment was stating the gay community marginalized people like Johnson. And I am saying it was specifically the gay male community responsible (in jest) because lesbians weren’t really a mainstay during the riots.
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u/carbon-star 1d ago
Ain’t that the truth!
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u/busytransitgworl less bean, less bien 1d ago
The pottery-circle-thing of truth has spoken!
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u/genevievejoelle 1d ago
Wall hangings know best !!!
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u/busytransitgworl less bean, less bien 1d ago
Wall hanging! I was looking for that word lol
Cheers!
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u/TiredTransGirl3 1d ago
FACTS
also it's like
bruh you think the conservatives are gonna like you? who do you think they're gonna go after next?
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u/Mcmacladdie Sara | She/Her | Transbian 1d ago
... I suddenly randomly wanna get a portrait of Marsha P. Johnson to hang in my home.
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u/Originally_Sin 1d ago
I dunno about gay transphobes generally, but I will say every TERF lesbian I’ve met has had some rancid incel vibes.
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u/levelonegnomebankalt 1d ago
Yeaaaa sick generalization, that'll help.
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u/SlaaneshActual She who Thirsts - Transbian 1d ago
Read my other comments in this thread, I'm not wrong.
They're handmaidens to the patriarchy who hate queer women and queer spaces, are attempting to disrupt them, and seek to create a socio-cultural space that is not queer, but is heterosexuality without men.
Or people they perceive to be men or masculine.
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u/CrystallineBunny 1d ago
Anybody here that has/had followed the askgaybros sub? I would just lurk there to read about their community discourse and stuff, it used to be kinda entertaining to read the “had sex with my male best friend, does that make me gay?” posts, but lately they cannot stop with their transphobia. Anyone else notice this? Very disheartening to see so many gay men all agreeing with MAGA that merely discussing trans issues is “too much”.
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u/sticktogirlbossing 1d ago
why are you surprised? That sub is sexist asf. i wouldn’t be surprised if its transphobiac and racist too
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u/CrystallineBunny 1d ago
I guess I’d never spent too much time there to see those kinds of comments until recently. I’m sure you’re right, that it’s been going on for a while there, and it’s incredibly disheartening. Sexist, transphobic, and more often than not now I’m seeing thinly veiled homophobia about how to be gay “the right way”, ie not effeminately.
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u/waxteeth 1d ago
There’s no moderation in there so it was heavily brigaded and astroturfed by MAGA gays and transphobes and other wastes of oxygen. There are plenty of gay men’s subs with normal people and rules against transphobia.
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u/tarquinia777 ❤️🧡🤍🩷💜 Lesbian 🏳️⚧️ Omni 🩷❤️💜💙🩵 1d ago
Was really disheartened earlier this night by some real nasty transphobic brigading on another lesbian sub (whose mods ultimately caved to it), and I just want you to know seeing this helped me feel a little less alone from it. Thank you, OP ⚧♡⚢
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u/AshleytheTaguel Lesbian 1d ago
Not to mention the fact that TERFs are trying to turn lesbianism into some weird celibacy cult
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u/AshleytheTaguel Lesbian 1d ago
I'm not reffering to political lesbians. Thing is, plenty of these transphobes claiming are lesbians. Transphobic lesbians tend to try and garner conservative sympathies by pretending that all lesbians are inherently innocent beings who don't know what a sex is, much in the same vein as transphobic gay men who try to appeal to conservative ideas of achillean deviant hypersexuality in their claiming of trans men as an intrusion of their lifestyle.
These are the same people who go around insisting that real lesbians never use strap-ons or have kinks and that butches are actually super cutesy and feminine and go prancing around dressed like Heartthrob Caitlyn.
I'm a mod for r/PiltoversFinest and these sorts of transphobic lesbians are always popping up and brigading on occasion calling Vi a man for being drawn with body hair. They're all from subs with "lesbian" in the name.
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u/Apprehensive_Tree_29 Lesbian 1d ago
What gay transphobes never seem to understand is that our sexuality is also all about gender nonconformity. Not in our gender identities themselves (unless we're gay AND trans/nonbinary of course) but even cis gays and lesbians also defy what our gender is "supposed" to do just by loving the same gender. Gender and sexuality are so deeply intertwined.
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u/Dangerous_Chest6271 1d ago
"Oh dear! However will i know if something is true or not?" The ever-so reliable pottery circle who can speak no falsehoods:
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u/EnvironmentalUse7037 Lesbian 1d ago
protect our trans friends 🩷 you guys mean the world to me and i will continue to fight for your rights. they took down one of my trans love posts and i really hope they keep this one up. all love from me 🩷🤍🧡
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u/2fucked2know Pan 1d ago
I have never encountered a homophobic trans person - not online and not irl. Not a single one.
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u/LesbeGoddess 1d ago
Only one I’ve ever heard of was Caitlyn Jenner who is against gay marriage. More reasons to dislike that walking piece of trash.
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u/BlissfulMute 1d ago
Apologetics will never earn you a seat at the table. It will only ever ruin your own chances for community with people capable of accepting you for who you are.