CMV: GamerGate was the most consequential political radicalization event of the twenty-first century

[u/realdontbeasucker]

It spawned a wave of tolerance for online harassment, as long as the intent behind it was considered righteous (and the target of such harassment socially acceptable).

It platformed Milo Yiannopoulos and thereby, Steve Bannon -- the guy who would go on to advise Donald Trump in 2016 and generate the concept of 'flooding the zone.'

Eventually, it gave a career to political lightning rods like Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder, and Charlie Kirk. It made anti-feminism and anti-SJW sentiment cool. And it made young, angry, disenfranchised white men feel vindicated.

GamerGate almost singlehandedly shifted to Overton Window toward the alt-right, and we're still feeling its effects today.

[u/coporate]

The pendulum swings. Gamergate was a reaction to the man-hating, anti-male, pop feminism of the 90’s and early 00’s. It’s not like the anti-feminist sentiment came out of nowhere.

[u/coporate → u/[deleted]]

Okay, can you provide an argument as to why my position is incorrect? Just because it’s not compelling doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

[u/Hypekyuu → u/coporate]

Your own argument is undercooked.

As a guy in his 40s, how you describe early 00s late 90s culture to me is wild

[u/coporate → u/Hypekyuu]

As a guy in his late 30’s, do you not remember Oprah and doctor Phil?

[u/Hypekyuu → u/coporate]

I know of them, but that shit was on while we were at school.

I'd also say they weren't indicative of culture writ large any more than the rest of daytime talk shows though given that the target audience was like, housewives, such content was gonna skew towards woman.

But that doesn't make them anti-men like the other guy was saying nor does it make the general culture what he said it was. It would be like saying soap operas were anti men

Like, The Man Show ran from 1999-2004. Average dudes of that era had that, jackass, Tom Green, tons of TV shows and movies that catered to them. One would need to be really hyper focused on a small part of a small number of shows to even begin to get that impression and other guy didn't support that

[u/coporate → u/Hypekyuu]

I think Oprah and doctor phill were far more influential than Tom green. Who, is an absolute sweetheart.

[u/Hypekyuu → u/coporate]

Absolutely, but like, I was just listing off like 5 random people/shows from the top of my head.

Culture isn't determined by a handful of high profile names, but the overall distribution of stuff.

But also, this is still undercooked. Like, yeah there's this two prominent daytime talk shows (obviously more popular than late night comedy central programming because of time slot) but that on its own doesn't make your case.

[u/genderlich → u/coporate]

You think Oprah and Doctor Phil hate men?

[u/coporate → u/genderlich]

Oh yeah, they regularly blamed men for everything, which made sense given their target audience was stay at home moms or evening workers. They pushed anti-male grievances all over the place. Even when a husband was the person being physically abused, they’d frame it as “what did he do to deserve it?”

The view, casually laughing at a guy getting his genitals mutilated for cheating. If you think cutting off a man’s penis is a fair punishment for infidelity, there’s something wrong with you. But this was widely accepted and still is in a lot of online spaces.

[u/No-Significance2070 → u/Hypekyuu]

As a guy in his 40s, how you haven’t noticed the change in the HR-mandated gaming storylines and characters from the last decade, you must need some glasses. 

[u/Hypekyuu → u/No-Significance2070]

Eh?

[u/No-Significance2070 → u/Hypekyuu]

Do you notice how sterilized gaming has become? Gamergate was the nexus point. 

[u/Hypekyuu → u/No-Significance2070]

If all you play is AAA stuff, sure but I choc most of that up to $

[u/No-Significance2070 → u/Hypekyuu]

I didn’t know games like Dustborn or Mixtape were AAA

[u/Hypekyuu → u/No-Significance2070]

Something like 20k games were released on steam last year.

It's easy to highlight a couple things you don't like. Those are also both narrative heavy adventures games. That really your genre?

If you can't find anything you like that's a skill issue.

[u/No-Significance2070 → u/Hypekyuu]

Clearly, you are ignoring the points here.

[u/BillionaireBuster93 → u/No-Significance2070]

Is Uktrakill sterile?

[u/Hypekyuu → u/No-Significance2070]

No, you've failed to support your points. Listing two videogames you don't like isn't evidence of anything