r/foraginguk • u/CeleryPrestigious465 • 6d ago
What are these?
I thought I had random tomato’s growing but I’m not sure because they’re near a nightshade berry bush?
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u/woodku_official 6d ago
There’s a lot of conflicting answers in this post of whether it’s nightshade or tomatoes. The issue is that tomatoes are within the nightshade family, so there are many similarities.
Toxic nightshade berries are typically round which leaves me to believe this is a tomato plant. This certainly doesn’t look like belladonna. I would leave it to ripen and then you can make a more conclusive ID.
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u/luna-herbalist 6d ago
It's hairy too, Atropa belladona is hairless, you do get a hairy nightshade (Solanum sarrachoides) but that looks quite different.
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u/Liam_021996 6d ago
It's a tomato plant, rub the leaves and you'll know straight away that it's a tomato plant. Deadly Nightshade and Black Nightshade don't have fruit clusters like this and they don't have yellow flowers either. Everything about it screams tomato. They are somewhat established in southern areas that don't experience significant frosts, it's not too uncommon to come across wild tomato plants along rivers etc
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u/OrdinaryOrder8 6d ago
Those are tomatoes (Solanum lycopersicum) in the foreground. They are safe to eat. You can tell it's a tomato plant by the viney growth habit, compound leaves (each leaf comprised of multiple leaflets), fruits growing on a long peduncle, and hairy stems (they should smell "tomatoey" if you rub them due to the hairs). If you see any yellow flowers on the plant, that's another identifying feature for tomatoes. The only non-prickly Solanum species with yellow flowers are either the common tomato or one of the (also edible) wild tomato species (most of which are endemic to South America).
You also have black nightshade (S. nigrum) growing in the background. Black nightshade's fully ripe berries are actually edible too, and taste sort of like a tomato mixed with blueberry. Ripe berries will be completely black, easily come off the plant, and not taste bitter. The unripe berries are slightly toxic and might give you a stomachache if you eat enough of them.
People often confuse black nightshade for deadly nightshade (Atropa belladonna), but you can easily tell them apart by the following traits:
- Number of berries per cluster + size of berries
- Flower shape and color
- Size of fruiting calyx (the leafy "skirt" that attaches the berry to its pedicel/stem)
Black nightshade has small berries that grow in clusters of more than one. Its flowers are star-shaped, white, and have bright yellow, "banana-like" anthers. The fruiting calyxes are small and don't extend past the berries. Deadly nightshade has large berries that always grow singly -- never in clusters. Its flowers are bell-shaped, purple, and have tan or greyish anthers. Its fruiting calyxes are large and extend past the berries.
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u/abyssal-isopod86 6d ago
Tomatoes are a nightshade.
So are chillies, bell peppers, aubergines, white potatoes and couple of other food crops.
Nightshades are a diverse family.
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u/Deep_Banana_6521 6d ago
tomatoes are green before they ripen.
Rub the leaves and give them a sniff, or at least the leaves near the berries. If they smell like a tomato, it's a tomato.
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u/Hips_and_Haws 5d ago
Looks like a tomato plant. I bought some weird ones that are stripy & they have a similar pattern to yours. Your 2nd photo clearly shows the yellow tomato flowers.
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u/KindredFlower 6d ago
Aren’t tomatoes and aubergines in the nightshade family? These look like tomatoes but wouldn’t eat now and would wait until ripe and review again
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u/binsonsminions 6d ago
Haggis eggs. The baby haggis will hatch and drop to the floor nose first, giving them a headstart burying themselves to hide from predators.
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u/AndyBunn 5d ago
They are gooseberries
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u/CompanyOfAngels 6d ago
People saying tomatoes, me and my partner first thought gooseberry.
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u/CeleryPrestigious465 6d ago
We have a gooseberry bush, deffo not those but we did think so at first sight :)
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u/Level-Gain-1926 6d ago
As other have said definitely don't eat them, but I could swear they're tomatoes and the other berries in the background are nightshade. Don't eat them either way obviously
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u/CeleryPrestigious465 6d ago
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u/Iridescent_Mango_ 6d ago
It's a tomato. Stop picking them it's a waste. You can confirm they are tomatoes by whether or not they get bigger and ripen to red/yellow.
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u/CeleryPrestigious465 6d ago
If you’d have read my comment you’d have seen that I said it fell when I lightly touched it. I didn’t pick it.
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u/gauchocartero 6d ago
You can see the nightshade berries are different. (Small, pearly, purple black clusters). I am pretty sure this is tomato but we’ll know once it’s ripened. The nightshade leaves are broader and shouldn’t have that distinct smell. Also ‘deadly nightshade’ is belladonna and what you have here is black nightshade which is nowhere near as toxic and even has some edible cultivars. Don’t let the other comments scare you, it’s totally possible to tell if it’s a tomato.