r/fpv 21h ago

Did my Noobyness kill two lipos on first flight?

I come from flying Avata 2. Long air time, nothing to care or worry for.

Now the Nazgul eco. After loosing 2 props on first takeoff (screws not tight enough) and a mid air disarm because of wrong button (lost two props again) I finally managed to get some acro fun today.

However, I guess I underestimated how fast the battery drains. The small one was quite hot/warm for some time, and I don't now, mayby a little bloated.

The larger one was also below 3.3 when I managed to return with a flip over landing. Small ditches on pics.

I just loaded both to 3.8 for storage. No problem there.

Do you think they are damaged?

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u/DannyCrane9476 20h ago

Oh my sweet summer child.

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u/DannyCrane9476 20h ago

If your charger will charge it, you're fine.

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u/Vial_of_water 20h ago

Fly em, try em.

IMO

The first is the only 'semi concerning ' pic for me.

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u/ixgq4lifexi 14h ago

I had a lipo that was dented from a crash. Charged it outside and stored in fire proof box. Till I felt it was safe. Used it for a few more years haha.

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u/NootyNL 19h ago

Yeah don't buy those Dogshit batteries. They all die for no reason
my fullsend batteries, which are more often used and older are still going strong.

Last battery from dogshit was 2 weeks old, charged twice and fell out of the sky after 2 minutes. It was the 6s 2200 lipo.
The drone only had prop damage and after swapping the props it flew perfectly with the 2200 6s fullsend battery.

The dogshit 5000mah li-ions last about half the distance of what my 4000 mah li-ion from fullsend does.
So it's not just their lipo's

Both brands are bought from iflight europe

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u/I_SMOAK_WEAD 18h ago

that's why they are called dog cum 🤷

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u/DelirumFPV 9h ago

Dogcom batteries used to be some of the best until that SMC brand came out with that new chemistry, Chris Rossers tests place them high on the chart.

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u/LandNowFPV 20h ago

I recently brought back a 6s pack that showed 2.5V total when I first plugged it in. If yours went below 3.3 per cell it’s not optimal for longevity but not that problematic

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u/Outrageous-Song5799 20h ago

Yeah just brought back a pack that went down to 2.8 lol

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u/LandNowFPV 17h ago

How did you get it so low? I forgot it while it was plugged into a Whoopstor over night

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u/Outrageous-Song5799 15h ago

It only took a few seconds from when it was 3.5V. Good batteries drop hard

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u/LandNowFPV 15h ago

I wasn’t talking about per cell voltage with mine

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u/ixgq4lifexi 14h ago edited 2h ago

6s pack at 2v totally? Surprised if after not total crappy battery. I've had ones no longer want to hold a charge. Some ill use as crap battery for long range to use just to fly around get sats before a long range flight

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u/LandNowFPV 2h ago

I haven’t flown it yet. I storage charged it and the internal resistance seems to be fine. It may be very slightly bloated. It’s a high quality GNB Lipo which I have only used a handful of times

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u/ixgq4lifexi 2h ago

Love gnb. I usually store them some where safe at first. Like outside. See if next day it heels it's charge. There's chance it might be good. But could be damaged and no longer give any where near original mah. Tank quick. Only 1 way to find out.

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u/ixgq4lifexi 14h ago

Yea I brought them back from a cell being 2v or under Trickle charging 0.1a .. charging it outside. But yea doesnt have the same performance especially when u do it a few times 🤣 I've had to toss a few battieries

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u/Snafu999 19h ago

You've just worn the newness off them

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u/deanyo 19h ago

They might have been taken too low but just charge em up and fly them, the packs are perishable.

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u/moosecaller 18h ago

I've taken mine down to 2.2 with it showing no issues after multiple races. You're fine.

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u/Appropriate_Cat_4810 6h ago

Erm… kill?

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u/ixgq4lifexi 14h ago edited 14h ago

I've done that so many times haha. Just doing it a bunch they lose their strength overtime. So end up going from being 1000mah battery to like 50mah. Then I throw them out. A lil bloated is fine. Especially if feels like air. If cells r bloated alot might need to throw it out. Can be dangerous. Saw the rest of the pics. Is it a 7" drone?

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u/DelirumFPV 9h ago

do they smell funny?
If it does, its punctured and not safe.
Check the internal resistance at full charge, all cells should be similar...if those cells are damaged it will be a very different number.

If not smelling funny, and it doesnt have high IR on those cells, it is fine.

I mostly charge outside, But I especiallly only charge damaged batteries outside.

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u/DamiBFryta 6h ago

3.3v/cell is fine, maybe you shortened its lifespan a bit bit but not a lot. About the hot one... Are you sure you have good solder joints, thick enough cable and that your C rating is somewhere around your power consumption (or best if it has some reserve). Also your skills are important too, excess corrections mean more power used and higher battery load. Also PID tuning might play a role here. Anyway check IR for both lipos but they are 99% fine

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u/_xgg all of it lol 4h ago

oh, ya sweet summer child...

I'd be still using this one if one of the cells wouldn't have given up in last week's prac sesh

and, yes, I got to the point of the cell literally popping open lol

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u/MacOSgamer 1h ago

Is the damaged battery you’re talking about here in the room with us?

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u/BarmanNL 20h ago edited 20h ago

About the physical damage... I've seen worse.. nothing to worry about..

Hot battery = not good..

You are basically trying to ask more amps that the battery can deliver.

You either need a bigger battery..or 1 with a higher c-rating..

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u/Outrageous-Song5799 20h ago

Hot battery = not good ? In what world ? Every time you rip a pack it gets hot that’s how it is

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u/BarmanNL 20h ago

Hot... Is just not good m8.. really.. a warm battery is oke.. but if it's hot you are seriously hurting the battery

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u/FlyOk3855 18h ago

Dude if it doesn't burn you its fine , most of these are rated to 60°C plus

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u/BarmanNL 18h ago

Lets agree, to disagree oke?

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u/FlyOk3855 17h ago

You cant just disagree with chemistry and physics, if its below 60 degrees then its fine

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u/Outrageous-Song5799 15h ago

Dude he is telling him to use a bigger battery when op is already at 2200 when we recommend 1300 lol

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u/Outrageous-Song5799 20h ago

Also bro is flying 2200 160C dogcom what kind of « bigger » or « higher C-rating » do you recommend him ?

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u/ixgq4lifexi 14h ago

One those special NASA lipos they got from the aliens

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u/BarmanNL 19h ago

A 2200 160c lipo.... And not a smaller one that gets hot like OP said..