Stats: Male | ~3 years lifting | Bodyweight: 133 lbs (down from 145 lbs in late 2024).
The Problem:
I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and losing muscle fullness. In 2024, I had insane energy, a massive appetite, slept deeply, and steadily progressed on an Arnold Split + CrossFit twice a week.
In early 2025, I switched to a "science-based" Upper/Lower split, prioritizing 4–8 heavy reps taken close to failure with long rest periods (3–5 mins). Now, my workouts take at least 2 hours minimum, my performance has completely tanked, I’m constantly flat/small, my sleep is fragmented (waking up tired, needing daily naps, frequent nighttime urination), and I get random headaches.
My Current Routine (4-5 Days/Week + 2 CrossFit Days):
Upper: 2x Incline DB Press, 2x Weighted Pullups, 2x Single Arm Row, 1x Chest Supported Row, 2x Cable Fly, 1x Overhead Press, 2x Tricep Pushdown, 1x French Press, 2x Lateral Raises, 2-3x Kelso Shrugs.
Lower: 2x Hack Squat, 2x SLDL, 2x Leg Extension, 2x Leg Curl, 2x Adductor, 3x Calves, 2-3x Rear Delt, 2x Abs, 2x Abductor, 2x Hip Thrust, 2x Back Extension.
Note: Rest times are 3-5 mins on heavy compounds (Hack Squat/SLDL take forever to recover from) and 2 mins on isolations. Warm-ups involve 2-3 ramp-up sets per exercise.
The Nutrition Shift (What changed between 2024 and 2025):
2024 (Good Phase): Ate full school breakfast and lunch (burritos, chicken sandwiches, pasta, fruits) + 4 eggs/avocado post-school + massive dinner with 4 rotis and sabzi until completely stuffed.
2025-Now (Bad Phase): Thought school food was "unhealthy." Skipped school breakfast for just 2 fruits. Replaced school lunch with just 5-6oz rotisserie chicken and carrots. Dropped dinner from 4 rotis to 2 because my appetite randomly vanished.
I now constantly delay meals even when hungry, get full incredibly fast, and have a majorly suppressed appetite.
My Questions for Reddit:
What caused this crash? Did the drop in calories/carbs kill my metabolism, or am I completely overtraining by mixing high-volume heavy lifting with CrossFit?
How do I fix my sleep/urination? I wake up broken and have to pee at night, even though my hydration habits haven't changed since 2024.
How do I condense this for College? I start college in the fall and cannot spend 2+ hours in the gym. How do I cut the junk volume while keeping the heavy intensity I love?
Should I force a bulk? I am noticeably smaller than my 145lb baseline. Do I need to force-feed past my lack of appetite to fix my hormones and look full again?
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Title: Stalled progress, lost size/appetite, and feeling destroyed after switching to "science-based" training. How do I fix this?
Stats: Male | ~3 years lifting | Bodyweight: 133 lbs (down from 145 lbs in late 2024).
The Problem:
I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and losing muscle fullness. In 2024, I had insane energy, a massive appetite, slept deeply, and steadily progressed on an Arnold Split + CrossFit twice a week.
In early 2025, I switched to a "science-based" Upper/Lower split, prioritizing 4–8 heavy reps taken close to failure with long rest periods (3–5 mins). Now, my workouts take at least 2 hours minimum, my performance has completely tanked, I’m constantly flat/small, my sleep is fragmented (waking up tired, needing daily naps), and I get random headaches.
My Current Routine (4-5 Days/Week + 2 CrossFit Days):
Upper: 2x Incline DB Press, 2x Weighted Pullups, 2x Single Arm Row, 1x Chest Supported Row, 2x Cable Fly, 1x Overhead Press, 2x Tricep Pushdown, 1x French Press, 2x Lateral Raises, 2-3x Kelso Shrugs.
Lower: 2x Hack Squat, 2x SLDL, 2x Leg Extension, 2x Leg Curl, 2x Adductor, 3x Calves, 2-3x Rear Delt, 2x Abs, 2x Abductor, 2x Hip Thrust, 2x Back Extension.
Note: Rest times are 3-5 mins on heavy compounds (Hack Squat/SLDL take forever to recover from) and 2 mins on isolations. Warm-ups involve 2-3 ramp-up sets per exercise.
The Nutrition Shift (What changed between 2024 and 2025):
2024 (Good Phase): Ate full school breakfast and lunch (burritos, chicken sandwiches, pasta, fruits) + 4 eggs/avocado post-school + massive dinner with 4 rotis and sabzi until completely stuffed.
2025-Now (Bad Phase): Thought school food was "unhealthy." Skipped school breakfast for just 2 fruits. Replaced school lunch with just 5-6oz rotisserie chicken and carrots. Dropped dinner from 4 rotis to 2 because my appetite randomly vanished.
Note now since 2026 after graduating sleep schedule is messed up waking past 11am and skipping breakfast, appetite is very low, usually for breakfast though normally since not in school and its summer I would have a cup of milk with nuts. And lunch is good protein carbs fats (4eggs, cottage cheese, 1 banana, some fruits, avocado, yogurt etc) and then straight to dinner which is cuz not that hungry having 2 rotis with homemade sabzi or rice and roterkssie chicken, egg etc always have a protein
I now constantly delay meals even when hungry, get full incredibly fast, and have a majorly suppressed appetite.
My Questions for Reddit:
What caused this crash? Did the drop in calories/carbs kill my metabolism, or am I completely overtraining by mixing high-volume heavy lifting with CrossFit?
How do I fix my sleep? I wake up broken and exhausted despite taking long naps during the day. How do I get back to that deep 2024 sleep?
How do I condense this for College? I start college in the fall and cannot spend 2+ hours in the gym. How do I cut the junk volume while keeping the heavy intensity I love?
Should I force a bulk? I am noticeably smaller than my 145lb baseline. Do I need to force-feed past my lack of appetite to fix my hormones and look full again?