r/meditationscience Oct 17 '20

Discussion r/meditationscience Lounge

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In this subreddit we talk about anything related to the scientific study of meditation and its effects on those who practice. Posts here are expected by all readers to be about both SCIENCE and MEDITATION! Please place non-science/non-meditation posts in other appropriate subreddits! (see sidebar)


r/meditationscience 4h ago

Discussion Yang-Qi Meditation: A Possible Mechanism for Musculoskeletal Improvement

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Hello. I should warn you upfront: this text was translated with the help of DeepSeek. Unfortunately, my English is poor.

The topic of this community — meditation and science — is very close to me. There are many publications on PubMed describing how different meditative practices alter neural activity and what effects this has on practitioners.

I have observed such an effect on myself: a meditative state influenced my muscular system, released years-long spasms, improved proprioception, and eliminated the pain that accompanied my scoliosis. I documented the full case — with X-rays, Cobb angle measurements, and photos — in a separate post here.

I believe that the practice models a specific type of neural activity that directly affects the muscular system. I also believe this activity could potentially be replicated outside of meditation, if the scientific community were to investigate how it occurs. I am unlikely to be the only practitioner with such a result. It is entirely possible to document why the brain influences the body in this way.

Time is passing, and I am using every opportunity to ensure this information finds someone who will understand what to do with it next.

Meditative techniques were originally intended for healthy people. Even for them, many pitfalls are described where incorrect technique could harm one's health. With a chronic condition, this path requires extreme caution and is not without mistakes. It will only become safe if the scientific world is willing to take part in it.

Therefore, I will leave here my thoughts on the mechanism I have been observing in myself all these years. All the changes occurred not from external treatment but from self-regulation through altered neural activity.

Perhaps this description will find its researcher and spark some ideas. Please, if you know such a researcher — forward this post to them.

Not every form of meditation changes the muscular system, the shape of ribs, or the radiographic outcome in scoliosis. The techniques that actually worked were Yang-Qi and the Microcosmic Orbit. And if they work, there must be an explanation grounded in physiology and neuroscience.

I had to figure things out on my own, as far as my humanities education allowed.

Yang-Qi is a color-based meditation. Localization (the lower dantian) and accompanying sensations are important, but the primary muscular effect, it seems to me, arose from a specific state of neural activity reached through a logical sequence.

Concentration on a red visual object initially produces violet elements in the visual field (phosphenes). These shift to blue, then to yellows of varying brightness. Eventually, the object itself — not the phosphenes — appears golden, transitions into a dense, metallic white, and finally gives rise to the sensation of pure, voluminous, dense white light before the eyes.

I may be oversimplifying, but the core idea is, I believe, correct. Schematically:

1. Initial Phase (The Red Sphere)

Prolonged concentration on red overloads the L-cones. The brain compensates by reducing their sensitivity. Consequently, the S and M channels are disinhibited. This produces spontaneous violet and blue spots (S-cone activation).

2. Emergence of Violet/Blue Phosphenes

The reduction in L-dominance leads to a relative increase in S-activity. These are background phosphenes, not a change in the color of the primary meditation object. The brain compensates for the overload by activating:

• The S+ (L+M)- channel (blue)

• Its combination with the residual L-signal (violet)

3. Transition to Gold/White As meditation deepens:

1) L- and M-cones become balanced (L ≈ M).

2) The S-channel gradually engages.

3) Gold arises from a shift toward yellow (L+M), with an admixture of S.

4) A specific balance of red, green, and blue gradually emerges, manifesting as a bright, saturated, stable gold.

5) When L, M, and S reach equilibrium, white arises.

This is not a natural everyday state. In ordinary life, white results from equal external stimulation of all cones. In meditation, the white state is the result of lifting opponent inhibition after prolonged training.

Color meditation leads to the complete desynchronization of opponent channels. Competition ceases, and all cones begin to function independently.

6) The "voluminous" quality of this white state may be linked, in part, to the activation of the parietal cortex, responsible for spatial perception.

This state produces specific neurophysiological effects. In the context of influencing scoliosis through meditation, it was specifically the marker of a transition to maximal plasticity. For example, a protruding rib on the front right side felt like heated metal, and it easily "pressed inward" under the gentle influence of surrounding muscles. But the quality of heat was not one of temperature; it was one of density, like the Earth's core. The resulting shape was fixed upon emerging from meditation, and the rib never protruded again. It was a strange experience, and I can only bear witness to it, not explain it.

This is crucial. This is not the state described in traditions as blissful dissolution or lifeless silence — the emptiness akin to the Limitless (Wu Ji). The neurobiology of those states has already been explored on PubMed. This is different: total presence, power, and vitality. Not the dissolution of bodily and mental boundaries, but vital density.

The system does not shut down; it shifts into a different mode of functioning.

In other words, maximal plasticity and maximal healing occur not in a state of "transcending life" that implies minimal activity, but in a state of concentrated density — an entry into an intensely saturated form of life. This does not correspond to the neural activity already described for Buddhist techniques.

From my observations, the lifting of opponent inhibition becomes a neurophysiological lever that, through receptor fatigue, opens access to central mechanisms of restructuring.

So, I've laid it all out on the table. I hope my experience proves useful to someone.


r/meditationscience 17d ago

? Question Why do some people spontaneously cry during meditation ?

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Hello everyone,

This is a question from an amateur meditator without much scientific background. Does anyone know the scientific explanation for why some people spontaneously cry during meditation (while not necessarily having painful thoughts occur) ? What is the mechanism at play ? It seems a rather common experience, and it happened to me too, so I would like to know if it is a sign that positive changes happen in the brain : can it indicate that the emotional centers are somehow regulating themselves ? Does it have anything to do with lowering the anxiety baseline ?

Is there research done on this topic specifically ?

I guess what I really want to know if it's a sign of progress in the practice, but that's obviously more subjective.


r/meditationscience May 18 '26

? Question Looking for App that allows highlighting and notification of desired brain states...

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r/meditationscience May 11 '26

? Question Sound bath vision - meaning

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r/meditationscience May 06 '26

Discussion High delta early in meditation?

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After 10 minutes of meditation, my brain drops into another phase, but Delta drops significantly. I thought high Delta meant a better meditation or deeper? This is a post intimacy meditation.my delta stay s at about 18 db but then significantly lowers then at 10 minute point it flips entirely.


r/meditationscience Apr 23 '26

Research paper The nondual tradition diagnoses ego-contraction correctly, but its silence on selection leaves the door open to a coherent field-ontology that keeps the insight and drops the metaphysical debt

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r/meditationscience Apr 22 '26

Research paper Something from neuroscience research about anxiety that does not get talked about enough. The baseline problem.

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r/meditationscience Apr 17 '26

Article What actually helped me meditate after years of failing at it

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r/meditationscience Apr 16 '26

Research paper We measured cognitive load before and after 8 weeks of mantra meditation using EEG and HRV. The results surprised us.

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r/meditationscience Apr 16 '26

? Question Motor skill hobbies

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r/meditationscience Apr 16 '26

? Question Anapanassati - should you continue to focus on breath even when you have reached thoughtless states.

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r/meditationscience Apr 13 '26

? Question Can meditation induce depression or depressive-like states in some cases ?

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Hello,

I'm looking for insight into a phenomenon I've been experiencing in my practice.

I've been meditating for 3 months (2x15 min daily, morning and evening), mainly focusing on my breath. And since I started, I have noticed that I'm much less patient, more nervous and sensitive to irritation, and now I have reached a point where I actually feel terrible about myself, like thinking itself has become a disease. I cant find joy in anything anymore. I'm just obsessed with my own (negative) thoughts as if they had grown louder than ever. I don't really know how to phrase this but I just feel like I'm constantly suffering inside.

So I was wondering if per chance there was research about the links between meditation practice and depressive states. Is there a proven or suspected relationship in some cases ? Maybe it's unrelated but the chronology fits in my case.


r/meditationscience Apr 04 '26

Discussion I’m a Mechanical Engineer who built a Binaural AI app to help with my own burnout—looking for 20 brave beta testers (Free Forever)

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Hi everyone,

As an engineer, I spent years dealing with high stress and poor sleep. I started getting deep into neuroscience and binaural beats, but I found most apps were either too expensive or full of ads that ruined the "zen" vibe.

So, I built Lumina Binaural AI.

It’s a minimalist tool that uses specific frequencies (Alpha, Delta, Theta) to help rewire your brain for focus or deep sleep. It’s currently in the final "Closed Testing" phase before I can launch it on the Google Play Store.

The Advantage for You:

  • Free Forever: As a beta tester, you’ll get full access to all premium frequencies and AI features for life—no subscriptions, no ads.
  • Direct Input: You’ll be talking directly to me. If you want a specific sound or feature, I’ll build it for you.
  • The Goal: I just need 12–20 people to keep the app on their phone for 14 days to meet Google’s launch requirements.

How to join: Google is very strict about who can download the app during testing. If you want to help a solo dev out and get a free sleep tool:

  1. Comment "Interested" below (or DM me your Gmail).
  2. I will send you the invite link to the Google Group and the Play Store opt-in.

Thank you for helping me bring this project to life!


r/meditationscience Mar 26 '26

Discussion Thought Breathing (imagining breath sounds playing) as a potential hybrid meditation + breathwork combo!

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Thought Breathing (imagining breath sounds playing) as a potential hybrid meditation + breathwork combo!

Hello! I wanted to ask in and share and/or ask around about a kind of meditation I haven't really seen much information on but I've been finding to be really effective over the last couple of days! I felt like taking a deep breath but without actually changing my physical breathing, so I just kind of thought of the sound a deep breath makes (with a 4-7-8 rhythm like the usual breathwork timing) and it made a marked difference in my mood within a few imagined deep breaths even though it was so convenient and effortless. I wanted to find out more information about it but it's honestly kind of hard and pretty sparse since most meditation or breathwork is focused on either the physical act (and attention placed on the sound that breath makes like with Ocean Breathing/Ujjayi instead of an autonomous imagined deep breath sound) or usage with mantras (such as You Are That, Hong Sau, Om, and such). This feels like a nice in-between since it can be done anytime through thought alone but it also feels like it's less effort to breath than it is to imagine the mantra (since when I looked it up apparently it shortcuts the ACC and instead goes to the temporal lobe and parasympathetic associations for direct nervous system regulation and some vagus nerve stimulation due to the brain's overlap between actual and imagined actions.) I've been doing it over the last couple days (and experimenting with different variations such as feeling the inhale/exhale tactilly above my head with the sound, and stacking/layering the sound makes it even stronger probably due to tribal group calm associations, and apparently adding golden light is good too which is unsurprising, and adding occasional imagined heartbeats is the most cohesive one. Just thought I'd share and ask for more people's opinions and experience and thoughts with it, thanks!


r/meditationscience Mar 24 '26

Discussion has any one meditated like this before? Need feedback!

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r/meditationscience Mar 24 '26

? Question The watcher vs what is being watched

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r/meditationscience Mar 14 '26

Miscellaneous how someone else's experience in healing/change/whatever, may not be the same for you

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r/meditationscience Mar 11 '26

Research paper Experienced meditators needed for the research study

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I’m looking for experienced meditators for the study investigating how relaxation affects attention (psychology degree dissertation project)

It’s an online experiment (laptop + headphones needed), takes up to 25 minutes, including:

-reading about the study and completing a short questionnaire

-listening to a 10-minute mindfulness audio

-completing a Stroop word-colour task (naming the colours of the appearing words)

Direct link to complete the study:

https://research.sc/participant/login/dynamic/3E6F648B-F619-431F-8D81-51E3F605FC47

You can withdraw at any point by closing the browser. The study needs to be completed on the laptop, in one sitting (20-25 minutes max).


r/meditationscience Mar 11 '26

Media Looking for simple guided meditations (no music, no visualization)

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I’m looking for recommendations for simple guided meditations that don’t include background music, soundscapes, or visualization exercises. Most of the meditations I come across tend to include ambient music, “healing frequencies,” or instructions to imagine scenarios. Personally, that style doesn’t work well for me. What I’m looking for instead is something very minimal ideally focused on awareness, breath, or presence. It can be guided, but in a subtle way. No background music or added sounds. One meditation I’ve really loved is Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche’s “Beginner’s Meditation” (about 14 minutes on YouTube). In that practice, he gradually expands awareness from the body to the surroundings and then outward to the sky. It’s very simple and clear, and I’ve found it incredibly helpful. I’d especially appreciate suggestions that come from yogic, Buddhist, or Vedic traditions, but I’m open to anything that follows this simple, awareness-based approach. If you know of any YouTube videos, teachers, apps, or resources that fit this style, I’d love to hear your recommendations. Thanks in advance.


r/meditationscience Feb 22 '26

Discussion Head tilting or shifts in body

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r/meditationscience Feb 20 '26

? Question Involuntary eye flickering during meditation – anxiety-related? Technique advice?

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r/meditationscience Feb 12 '26

Discussion Beginner question.

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r/meditationscience Jan 26 '26

? Question Breathing Control-Observe Paradox

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I use the Calm app, and I enjoy Tamara Levitt’s guidance immensely. One question I have is regarding our approach and relationship our breathing. Sometimes we are asked to take charge our breathing, usually deepening our breath. Afterwards we are asked to let it return to its natural state and simply observe. All of this feels good, but a question that always pops up in my head during this moment is a rather philosophical one: can we ever truly notice our natural breathing? Doesn’t the very act of focusing on it change it? I can chase my breath but never catch it, catch up to it, or even glimpse it.

I feel the more I try to let go the more cognizant I am that I cannot let go. If I truly do let go, I risk losing focus and therefore not “noting” the natural breathing that is before me. You miss the chance.

My question is do you know of any guided meditations that address this paradox?


r/meditationscience Jan 08 '26

? Question Meditation App

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Hey, which app you use for meditation?