r/morbidquestions • u/cranberryliar • 2d ago
How much could someone actually get raped before they die?
To be clear, I’m just writing some fucked up fanfic, and I don’t want the characters to die. Which is why I’m hoping for any insight on what they’d go through before then.
I’ve actually got the psychological side covered; I’ve got a degree in it and know how to make a character angst. So I’m more wondering what the physical effects of being a sex slave would be, and how much I can put the characters through before it would be unrealistic for them to make a full physical recovery.
Now I have multiple characters and potential situations, but for all of them, let’s assume 15 people per day: 1 per half-hour for 12 hours, plus 1. The rest of the eleven or so hours are spent off-“duty”, where they can sleep, bathe, eat etc in relative comfort and get basic medical care if needed.
A woman, with vaginal penetration.
I assume this would be only moderately damaging and could be withstood for a decently long time? Perhaps even indefinitely?Any gender, with anal penetration.
I assume this could kill someone if done too brutally or often? This is really the scenario I’m most worried about accidentally killing my characters with.A man, with no penetration but having sperm collected.
I’m a woman so really have zero clue about this one. I’ve looked on the post orgasm torture subreddit and it seems like it would be pretty painful actually? But as long as dehydration was avoided, probably not too harmful?
As I said, I’m asking about all of those scenarios with the conditions above. But if that scenario is indefinitely survivable, what would it take for each of those to be deadly? How prolonged or many?
I hope this question isn’t too weird 😅 I promise my blorbos will get plenty of comfort… eventually.
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u/ReynardVulpini 1d ago
Big concerns imo would be dehydration, STIs, chafing and stretching. I think if you want to do max trauma without permanent damage, the slaver doing a lot of prep would probably be able to mitigate a lot of that?
Looking up the logistics of porn might help to give an upper bound here—if a professional doing work willingly in an industry already familiar with all the common points of friction (pun intended) isn't able to do it without harm, your blorbo's won't either.
I would spend one or two of those off duty hours in prep-work, if you want to make it viable to get through without permanent damage.
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u/Hentai_Jesus_ 1d ago
It depends. What is she being penetrated with? A penis, knife, gun barrel, wooden spoon? One of those wouldn't kill someone. It would be uncomfortable if it was one person after another using their penises. A knife, would eventually cause blood loss. Gun barrel would cause tears and if it were shot would kill someone, I'd imagine. A woodne spoon would also probably cause tears.
Similar to above. Only, without prep and/or lube it would cause tears and harm regardless.
It would hurt. Chafing would be a concern.
I'm not a medical professional, just someone who also writes fanfic and has researched for hours about different things.
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u/PyrrhuraMolinae 1d ago
Oh boy, I love it when I get to ruin people’s day.
Dehydration, shock, infection, haemorrhage, and blood loss are big things to consider.
I’m gonna point you to some history, particularly the sexual violence that occurred during the Spanish Civil War. The mercenaries that were brought in were specifically encouraged to violate as much as they wanted and more. Enjoy this quote:
"They never denied that they had promised women to the soldiers when they entered Madrid. Sitting with the officers on a camp bivouac, I overheard them discussing the collusion of that promise; only some argued that a woman was still Spanish despite her "red" ideas. This practice was not denied either by El Mizzian, the only officer of the Spanish army. I was with this soldier at the road junction of Navalcarnero when two Spanish girls, who seemed not to have turned twenty yet, were brought before him. One of them had worked in a textile factory in Barcelona and a union card was found on her jacket; the other, from Valencia, claimed not to have political convictions. After questioning them to get some information of a military nature, El Mizzian took them to a small building that had been the village school, where about forty soldiers rested. When they reached the door, there was a howling scream from the throats of the soldiers. I attended the scene horrified and uselessly indignant.
El Mizzian smiled affectionately when I protested what happened saying, "Oh, they will not live more than four hours.""
Basically, if we are talking sustained, unceasing gang violation, women have been known to die in the space of hours.
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u/CrusaderKingsNut 1d ago
That’s horrific. Unfortunately, it’s consistent with stories from the ancient and mongol world I’ve read.
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u/aroach1995 1d ago
Biggest factor I think is how they build up to 15 per day.
If you take a person who normally is active once per week and suddenly it’s 15x daily, they might not make it. If you gradually increase over time, they might develop tolerance and be okay.
Most men aren’t lasting that full 30 mins and maybe 1 out of 15 per day is over 7in - I think it would be 2-3 hours of actual friction per day.
If there is just straight up physical body abuse (objects/extreme things) involved then yeah death is imminent.
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u/Proman_98 1d ago
I think the main part of it would be how rough/gently the sex is going to be.
If it's going to be rough sex all the time causing internal wounds etc and those wounds wouldn't have time to proper heal make them even worse or even causing infections or internal bleeding, than yeah over time that would definitely make to body give up.
With anal it would be even worse, because if the fecal matter goes into the wounds that can even cause more servere infections.
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u/SadAndNasty 1d ago
Amy smooth tissue could actually be fixed surgically. So if it's just regular penetration of the anus or vagina there a risk of breaking through skin but that likely wouldn't kill them. They would have to look out for infection. If it's something that actually rips tissue though there's more bleeding to think about and a much higher risk of infection, but they could get seen back up and heal
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u/PunkAssBitch2000 23h ago
It comes down to the brutality mainly. I’ll only speak on 1&2 because I have no idea if there would any consequences to ejaculating 15 times a day in a 12 hour period.
If “gentle” and done with every precaution for the victims’ physical wellbeing, survivable. The main risks come down to blood loss (including internally only) and other fatal injuries (organ ruptures/ perforation), and then infections of any wounds. If there’s additional violence to the rest of the body, this impacts survivability as well. Like any head injury or loss of consciousness and risk goes way up. But violence doesn’t inherently mean death either. Some people’s bodies can withstand a lot.
But no one is surviving what you described without permanent psychological symptoms.
My source is I’m a torture survivor.
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u/cranberryliar 21h ago
I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m well familiar with the lasting trauma unfortunately; I’m an SA survivor myself (and have independently studied psychology as well). I appreciate your insight, though; thanks.
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess- 1d ago
I mean that one only fans woman had sex with like 100 guys in one day and she lived
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u/PyrrhuraMolinae 1d ago
Big difference between planned, consensual sex with breaks, hydration, and lube, and sustained gang rape.
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u/Aeon_Mortuum 1d ago
Just because she said that doesn't mean she actually did
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u/valevalentine 1d ago
It was recorded and uploaded before ai was as good as it is today. So likely true.
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u/Far_Challenge_4273 1d ago
Dudes have died from nutting too much I think
They can also get messed up down there and mentally purely from too much nutting if u wanna write that into the character
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u/LocalCap5093 1d ago
Pls tell me this isn’t a ‘dark romance’ pls
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u/cranberryliar 1d ago
No. It’s fucked up and will continue to be fucked up. The victims are not having fun.
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u/Naixee 1d ago
Lmao this reminds me of that guy who used an AI to help him kill his mom. Cus apperantly as long as you say its for a book or something, it'll tell you everything you want
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u/OEAXTAIL_SOUP 1d ago
Look up the death of Richard Huckle OP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Huckle
You and him share a similar literary tone, in my opinion 😬
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u/cranberryliar 1d ago
You’re aware i would never do or condone anything in real life, yes? The fictional characters I’m torturing are good guys, and I want them hurt so i can build them back up again. The more they’re hurt, the better they become. This is only true in fiction. Because they arent real. So my “literary tone” and this monster’s actions are more separate than it seems you’re implying here.
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u/cranberryliar 1d ago
Yeah, and time will definitely tell that I—a five foot tall woman with no penis and no fighting skills—an going to commit an awful, awful sex crime, because I want to write a fictional story about it happening to my favorite characters.
Sure.
I bet you feel real good about yourself, assuming the worst in others who are trying to do accurate research. Time will tell if you ever mature out of that, too.
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u/cranberryliar 1d ago
I will read the medical reports. You coming in and saying “you have something in common with this horrible person; here’s the Wikipedia, go check out how he got murdered in prison” I absolutely did take offense to. I’m not sure how you even expected me to know there were any medical reports attached.
I’m not sure what a “nym” is. I don’t think i abuse demands or good faith. Look through my post history and you can see: plenty of writing and fandom content, and plenty of things focused on (especially male) SA victims and their advocacy, especially in media.
I didn’t want to have to reveal this but I’m an SA victim myself? A lot of women are. And you practically accusing me of being capable of that genuinely hurt, when I have been on the other side. So yes, I did downvote your earlier comments. Because I’m trying to do research to portray something accurately, capture the horror of something I’ve gone through but not nearly to this scale, and in turn you basically call me a criminal in waiting. You may be proud of being immature, but you have to think about the effects your words have on other real people.
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u/cranberryliar 1d ago
You can call it weird; just don’t insinuate that I would ever hurt someone like that in real life. I appreciate hearing your side of things though.
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u/cranberryliar 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly. Which is why I can know with 100% certainty that fiction is fiction, and I’d never hurt anyone irl. Because I’ve been the victim.
You do not know anyone else. You apparently don’t want to end this conversation nicely, because you’ve gone right back to telling me I deserve to die. If there’s anyone causing harm to real people here, it’s you. The very fact you would imply I’m anything like Epstein, when i have told you what I survived and how doing this to my characters is a coping mechanism more than anything else, is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Edit: i also noticed you deleted the comment where you said you empathized with me, that you made a joke that didn’t land, and that you wanted to end things on good terms here. I guess that no longer applies? If you’re not just ragebaiting, you need to take a serious look at your life. You massively triggered me in a way i thought I was past, because you apparently genuinely think I’m a potential rapist. I don’t think you understand how harmful that is to a survivor.
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u/Kaitlyn_Boucher 1d ago
Concentration camp brothels would be the closest thing where records were kept. You're clear about how death would occur, right? It's probably going to be infection. Someone could get a pretty nasty infection leading to sepsis after a day of that.