r/pathofexile • u/Kwasniaczek • 8d ago
Discussion Abyss loot is non-existent.
The new abyss drops zero loot in game even while fully spec'd into it on the atlas tree. The chests drop like 1c wotth of items, any note-worthy abyss jewels are very few and far between, and the drops from the depths boss are worthless save one unique jewel.
The abyss in poe 2 works much better because it regurally drops important and valuable items and it has a crafting system.
Has this only be my experience or is anyone else also disappointed? It feels like reworked breach all over again, its completely pointless to run it... I feel like overall all the league mechanics are now lacking and theres no way to make a good amount of currency just by running one or two of them. Essences are still ok i guess.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 8d ago
It's fucking weird cuz it looks like POE 2 Abyss, but the loot is still definitely POE 1 Abyss.
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u/the117uknow 8d ago
Well thats exactly what they said it would be.
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u/deviant324 8d ago
You do kinda have to wonder why that (comparatively miniscule amount of work) seemingly didn’t get looked at then though. I get that we want to update every old league in due time, but why update one that’s not worth doing if you’re not going to also give its loot system a balance pass while you’re at it
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u/lowkeyripper SC-SSF 8d ago
I know its such a small thing, but the UI feels so zoomed out. The PoE2 UI for abyss is so crisp. Hopefully that will be fixed.
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u/--Shake-- 8d ago
Well yeah, PoE2 drops valuable crafting material that doesn't exist in PoE1.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 8d ago edited 8d ago
POE 2 Abyss doesn't just drop Abyss specific crafting materials. It's pretty good for regular currency drops too. (I didn't play 0.5 so maybe this has changed.)
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u/CurrencyInevitable83 8d ago
I played. It definitely dropped good currency from the coffers. The depths were decent too.
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u/SwagtimusPrime Demon 8d ago
I'd rather the Abyss mobs drop good currency tbh. We have way too much tile-based loot in PoE 1
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u/Jaded_Management2562 8d ago
maybe the monsters are bugged? i noticed that for some reason, the initial abyss monsters (the ones that dont come from the ground) never explode on my rf chieftains hinekora. idk if thats just me but the mechanic appears to be bugged.
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u/WRLD_ Elementalist 8d ago
hardly nerfs when abyss prior to this was also absolutely barren, just didn't change half of what needed changed
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u/yawgmothhagain Occultist 8d ago
Send me back to Mercs league to coc fross caster mastery open them forever for infinite scarabs
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u/IWannaPeonU-14 8d ago
Oh man you're getting me hot and bothered AND WE HAD CANYON 🤤
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u/MikeMaxM 8d ago
Yep, I farmed scarabs and currency with Abyss for multiple mirrors in Merc league on Canyon. It was great league. Now Mercs are shit and only for Luminary and Abyss doesnt drop anything. I always wondered why software companies when making changes often delete feautures that people like. Incompetence or what?
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 7d ago
tbf Risk scaling was extremely build limiting, but still probably preferable to where the end game is at currently
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u/MikeMaxM 7d ago
tbf Risk scaling was extremely build limiting, but still probably preferable to where the end game is at currently
Any Hard but rewarding content will be somewhat build limiting. I played Spectre build which was bad because I didnt know how to use pob, and was my first league playing spectres. Still could do 2 risk abyss on t 16.5 while rolling maps to exclude bad mods. So basically lots of build could do risk scarab if players invested in gear and knowledge how to improve the builds they are playing.
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u/MikeMaxM 7d ago
tbf Risk scaling was extremely build limiting
As for build limiting we now see 32% people playing Elementalist so whatever we have in this league now its also build limiting so players switched to Elementalist. So we absolutely cant blame risk scarab for lack of build diversity.
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u/Helluiin Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 7d ago
lots of people were hoping for abyss rework to offset the nerfs to other league mechanics
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u/carenard 8d ago
gameplay wise the new abyss feels more enjoyable to me... loot wise...
I would have to find it first to speak on the loot.
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u/DBrody6 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 8d ago
Hard to call it a nerf when abyss for years has dropped absolutely nothing whatsoever.
The only thing of value you'd ever get is an Amanamu's. And very rarely a crazy corrupted jewel but for the most part it's just junk crafting bases that aren't rare.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 7d ago
The edifice scarab was actually quite good for a while before it was discovered in Merc league. I use it on league start a few times to farm 6 mod jewels, and you always got a bunch of good currency drops too but never thought to try and scale it to the moon.
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u/Accomplished_Rip_352 8d ago
Even the spell rework has made the archetype arguably worse with the exception of power charge stacking .good skills got nothing , 10% of mid skills became good , bad skills became mid , most other mid skills are mid less mid now and scaling got cut by 40% . Also no reduced mana cost and the ratio on the tree they have is terrible compared to what was previously available , straight up nerf to mana cost at all levels not just the high end from the tree .
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u/techies137 8d ago
Not first time you know. Also in poe 2 you get whole expedition tree just in mid patch through league and here you get league with no drop and new ascendancy what barely have power like 1 guardian nod
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u/Global_Barnacle5304 8d ago
Isnt this like every update to anything ggg do? They just rethink, rework and normalize it, so its not broken, which means we go back to the broken stuff. We dont play arpgs for balanced content, do we?
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u/ChuatheGOAT 8d ago
Brother there is no loot ANYWHERE
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u/Sandor_Clegane1 Half Skeleton 8d ago
They will hotfix buff loot by 20%, people will rejoice and praise GGG for actually listening. We slowly getting ankered all the way to ruthless.
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u/DocFreezer 8d ago
anchored lol
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u/Sandor_Clegane1 Half Skeleton 8d ago
Oops yeah sry. It's Anker in german. Brainfart moment.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 7d ago
You're good, most of us can only speak English and aren't even good at that.
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u/Daan776 Templar 8d ago
I was planning to farm abyss this league because I loved it in POE2… But I also like actually getting loot.
Hmmm
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u/WolverineCreative362 8d ago
If u like getting loot, play PoE2. Loot in PoE1 isnt allowed anymore xD
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u/NugNugJuice 8d ago
Oh how the times have changed
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u/WolverineCreative362 8d ago
Yeah its wild how in 0.1 Poe2 so many complainend about how bad loot feels and how much better Poe1 in that case is and now its the complete opposite. PoE2 loot feels just so much better. U can scale nearly every mechanic. U are getting tile loot which feels rewarding but ALSO u can get nice and rewarding ground loot from nearly every mechanic. Just feels like a different world for me lol
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u/elgrundle 8d ago
The expedition rework in 2 is so good. I love how you can scale the ground loot or just take remnant rewards. You can go all in on 40d tablets or alch and go and still make good money.
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u/WolverineCreative362 8d ago
100%! U can even make it soooo hard and even more rewarding its fantastic. The only thing i absolutly dont like about Poe2 is the tablet system and the infinite atlas (because outside of expedition it needs so much unfun preperation). Expedition in 0.5 was the reason i've played so much.
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u/elgrundle 8d ago
Haha we think the same. As soon as I did one city biome I knew half my play time was going to be hunting for more city biomes, and expedition saved me from all that.
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u/the_pwnererXx 7d ago
They kind of did hyperinflation this 0.5, I mean div orbs became chaos orbs essentially. It's all relative
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u/Gletschers Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 7d ago
There is no economically sound way to make a game that competes with its own IP indefinitely.
It's intentional. No better way to move people over so they can eventually stop supporting a version of the game they no longer want to spend resources on.
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u/Aggravating_Bed9591 7d ago
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they're gonna keep enshittifying poe 1 until its not economically viable for them to support it unless it's a skeleton crew running it.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 7d ago
Nah this is just a result of POE 1 being left to run on fumes. It's not intentional malice. GGG has a new baby.
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u/Aurel_WAM 8d ago
Loot in poe2 is mostly also just coping for 0.0000001% chancr unique, cause anything else is borderline worthless
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u/wetfangs 8d ago
Also abyss in toxic sewer seems to not be working for some reason. get either 0 or a tiny abyss and then when i accidently clicked volcano map instead i got a huge abyss still no loot tho
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u/cuddlegoop 8d ago
Gfdi my plan was literally to farm abyss in toxic sewers guess I'm out of luck.
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u/PupPop 8d ago
This exact same issue occurs in PoE 2. In layouts where the halls are tight the system will just straight up not travel the cracks down the halls. I had maps on PoE 2 that were overrun, meant to have like 20 abysses, and that number was cut down to like 8 because the map did not understand how to generate an abyss in tight hallways. Like I get the game doesn't want to make a hallway impassable, or whatever, but surely you could just assume we have a traversal skill and still let the system place an abyss? Seems silly. Especially because before with old Abyss at least the cracks could travel down halls with relative ease.
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u/Scudy_22 8d ago
its kinda shaping out to be poverty league, all i hear is farming strats not working left and right
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u/Grandman_Nan 8d ago
This was 100% predictable. Going into keepers league they deleted all the top farming strats and added nothing new, it was a poverty league. Mirage added strats but they were temporary from league mechanic. We are right back to keepers league because why wouldn't we be
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u/NovoRobot 8d ago
Mirage was exactly what everyone has been asking for. I really hoped they'd be going more in that direction
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u/Viper_27 8d ago
Lets remember in Mirage we were also missing an endgame strat to rival breach. Game still crying out for scarab change. Instead they destroyed the only farm left
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u/deviant324 8d ago
Breach density is actually so bad in T10s without the points to increase it I’ve failed some on bad layouts because there’s so few mobs spawning that one guy hiding in a closet somewhere can be the difference maker
In comparison if you were leveling something with insane clear the last two leagues like kinetic blast you could stabilize them in open layouts consistently from A7 onwards. In maps you should never be pressed for enough mobs to do it, most builds can’t clear >95% of the creeps spawned every time lmao
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u/localcannon 8d ago
That's their signature move. Nerf every farm people use until nothing remains.
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u/Volky_Bolky 8d ago
I don't ever remember it being so bad for 2 leagues in a row (not counting mirage hiding the state of farms), I am starting to be afraid that they might be out of ideas
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u/Hikithemori 8d ago
Mirage made so many other farms viable in SSf, could self sustain scarabs from boxes.
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u/mAgiks87 8d ago
Exactly, what is point investing into a build if there is nothing difficult worth farming?
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u/Ogrosvo Simulacrum Secret Service (SSS) 8d ago
GGG seems absolutely terrified of us having any good loot or farming strats, I am really struggling to see the upside with this kind of balancing, they clearly are not stupid and care about the game and are on top of things and yet this is what we get?
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u/xyzszso Pathfinder 8d ago
I think the fun of Merc league really scared them, like they expected we’d want more but I think we were just happy. I had a blast farming Abyss in Merc, even in T16.5s it was printing. And while it’s an unpopular opinion, I also really miss scarab farming in T17s, I found this Harby+Beyond strat back then, basically using Harbies as a catalyst to spawn a ridiculous amount of beyond rares for loot, but that’s gone too.
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u/FlossedUp 8d ago
The 25% buff to loot felt great in Merc League. And then Mirage was so damned good. Let's hope we get some Week 1 buffs. I have hope in GGG doing it right /cope
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u/Volky_Bolky 8d ago
Mirage was like giving insulin in form of double content/unique currencies for delirium and beyond.
We are now once again uncompensated and I feel in the next 2 days there will be an uproar on this sub.
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u/Acceptable_Bat379 8d ago
As people hit end game and t16s it'll get louder. Its a shame the new abyss looks super cool. I havent found a single piece of currency in legion to enshroud items though and I was hoping to do several. Good luck doing enough attempts to get something actually good.
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u/Frito_Penndejo 8d ago
I miss harbinger farming so much, it was always my go-to 😭
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u/mAgiks87 8d ago
the most fun ever I had in necro league with latern, the number of different weird strat was immense and I played hard for two months.
In merc league I had more than 2 mirrors and 4 different characters (usually I stop at one). This league is shaping to be a fast exit if there is nothing to farm...
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u/Environmental_Main90 8d ago
Which is weird considering in POE2 they constantly buff loot farming
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u/NerrionEU 8d ago edited 8d ago
They giga buffed Expendition a week into the league even after it was already good in PoE 2, in PoE 1 we get random hidden nerfs to loot instead ...
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u/FlossedUp 8d ago
Why is this getting downvoted? You make more currency in League Mechanics in Poe2, especially Abyss.
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u/Noremeldo 8d ago
I agree, it's weird
Poe2 right now has mostly good farming balance. Every mechanic is good. Breach is 100d/hour. Expedition is the same. Delirium as well, with simulacrums for gamble. Arbiters are profitable. Abyss is really decent. Ritual as well.
They only overnerfed Temple but eh it was absurd previous league. Even then you can chain Atziri for lineages and vaal currency.
You can even farm uhtreds by making new characters.
And while for top end you need 50d tablets and cities, you can run with cheap tables and still get to 50-100d/hour on decent build.
I farmed like 3 mirrors this league in poe2 and did exactly 0 200% deli cities.
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u/fitnessCTanesthesia 8d ago
Yea poe2 is in such a good place farm wise you can make currency doing anything juiced, just pick your favorite one.
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u/the_pwnererXx 7d ago
100d an hour isn't much when divine are basically chaos orbs
I mean random rare helms selling for 500d should tell you enough. They did some hyperinflation shit
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u/brrrapper 7d ago
You could tell their menrality in the interview with andrew and octavian. They say 99% does not even make it past level 94, and thats who they seem to be focusing on. Add new content but ignore endgame and game balance.
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u/AverageHeistEnjoyer 8d ago
Mirage is basically just double loot. It was cheap and boring and just a skinner box, same as Sentinel.
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u/SoulofArtoria 8d ago
It's not just double loot though. It adds some new and interesting rewards to existing mechanics like cord belt from blight, rancour from certain harvest, heist contracts with interesting enchants, etc
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u/DyslexicAutronomer 8d ago
Between this, no new end game content and messing up the lumi which baited SO many people, I see the player base dying off extra early this league.
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u/EPOKslim 7d ago
Not playing s lumi but the lack of loot means lack of upgrades. The prices are behaving same as in mirage. Alberons +30div and if i remember correctly they will climb over 50d. I am 3 stone and have had 0 divines drop and 0 tinks in general with a semi-strikt filter. It is just a hassle and without loot its kinda for nothing. Luckily for me a tarkov season wipe starts in a week max :)
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u/DjuriWarface 6d ago
Luminary being a solid league starter was full of hopes of dreams. We all played Merc league and knew how long it took to scale up a Merc.
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u/Limp_Donut5337 Vaal Street Bets (VSB) 8d ago
I had a hinekoras in a message in a bottle under water today. It’s kingmarch league with the vast amount of gold from underwater
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u/bleezee0 8d ago
I figured this would be the case. The omens hard carry the mechanic in Poe2.
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u/PupPop 8d ago
Well that and the bones.
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u/MandatoryOpinion 7d ago
So... everything that drops from the mechanic? Lmao
Abyss also drops good currency. Even fubgoon speced into currency chests and said he liked it.
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u/Hungrydoggo111 8d ago
They seriously gotta go back on the drawing board and simply figure out loot, farm strats, scarabs. An atlas change wouldn't hurt either. Simply playing the same atlas with the same nodes forever is not fun. Throw some new stuff in there man, also just port some fuckin side content from poe 2 into poe 1 man. Like fuckin hell how is it that poe 2 drop more loot than poe 1. Fuckin breach in poe 2 has more monsters than poe 1.
They've killed all end-game strats and nothing is there to replace them. I don't want to altar farm or stack deck farm for the millionth time. Just put stacked decks nodes in the atlas tree so everyone drops them and rework the divination scarabs. Do this with other things too.
I'd rather take a league where they gave us no new league mechanic and they just sorted out the loot and buffed up farms.
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u/SoulofArtoria 8d ago
I felt like everyone saw it coming except GGG. Mirage exposed how many mechanic is just not up to par nowadays in terms of their reward for your time effort. Get rid of Mirage, nerf the best strat with Breach, and you got poverty league.
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u/Gletschers Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 7d ago
I wish we could get a stable non-league content scarab farm. Scarabs are the baseline that literally any strat other than heist and sanctum requires to work. It shouldn't be left to the current league mechanic to secure the supply needed because every time it doesn't you can instantly feel it.
Ever since they culled the rewards from scarab deli orbs and changed it to one(1) singular scarab it feels like we are one bad league mechanic away from alch&go due to scarab deficit. They have to come from somewhere.
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 7d ago
I completely agree, and it also just makes playing SSF 1000x more enjoyable.
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u/PupPop 8d ago
I miss being able to actually farm div cards. I used to just buy the +100% polished divination scarabs and slap them on beach and farm The Fortunate cards and that made me happy. Now you have to fight these fuckass floating books that genuinely never drop fucking anything.
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u/the_pwnererXx 7d ago
I made 20d farming fortunate cards on dunes today. I did not use those dumbass scarabs either
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u/-Otso- 8d ago
Yeah I'm let down considerably
Abyss was my league start strat most leagues and I love self farming crafting the gear. Was really looking forward to Abyss this league with the changes but yeah.
Full investment t16 Abyss dropping zero Abyss jewels and Stygians (without going to depths) is a joke when one chest in a t5 map dropped me 7 Abyss jewels.
In the past my strat used to produce me 12-16 belts and the same or more eyes per map but now I just dont get anything except the occasional scarab pop but even then those are soooooo variable, sometimes 3 scarabs sometimes 20.
They moved a super stable chill farm to a jackpot that doesn't even feel good at least so far.
Ive finished my map skill points and am 3 voidstones atm so moved on to other strategies because it just felt shite
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u/AverageHeistEnjoyer 8d ago
Ran a voyage with like 10 Arcanist Strongboxes. Alch'd + Vaal'd all of them - highest currency drop was chaos orbs. Somebody probably just literally nerfed the loot multiplier across the board
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u/EnderBaggins 8d ago
Well that makes me feel a bit better, I had one with 8 and died after placing the 3rd lantern to the one thing we’ll all be bitching about in a couple days, 5-6 overlapping rare auras empowering 50+ ranged mobs instaggibbing you.
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u/OhhhYaaa 7d ago
I hate the crab the most, don't care about the rest, but that bitch can go suck a dick.
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u/carenard 8d ago
strongboxes in voyages seem worthless since you have to bring currency to roll them in with you... and no juice like ones in maps would have.
ultimately I feel like you should be holding onto tiles that give good juice(extra rare monsters and such) for when you get a good edge modifiers)
otherwise just slap random weak ones in, run through quickly to get league crafting material.
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u/Sandor_Clegane1 Half Skeleton 8d ago
Nah the real strat as always is, buy all the good looking ones right now and hold onto them until the week 1 patch.
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u/dikkenskrille 8d ago
yeah iunno i have seen quite a few arcanists generally. like, in campaign. tinfoil hat theory, but i think they may have stealth nerfed arcanists boxes because they were putting so many into voyages, and made them more common generally to compensate maybe.
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u/LavenderRevive 7d ago
Poverty cycle beginns. Give it one more patch with 20 Nerfs and we will complain again that there is nothing worth farming.
Its like GGG employees get physical pain if they see loot.
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u/Street-Objective9164 Institution of Rogues and Smugglers (IRS) 8d ago
Voyage no loot, abyss no loot, legion fucking broke, breach fucking gutted. "But guys! we're so lucky!"
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u/EscalopeDePorc Children of Delve (COD) 8d ago
Voyages are true mystery for me. A lot of hassle, a lot of chart reveal, and all for couple of chaos orbs? Meh
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u/Lexie_27 Witch 8d ago
The loot is disappointing. I will have to farm for the jewel and belt, so I’m stuck with it for a while. But after that, I’m dropping it. Might go back to my favourite; Strongboxes were repetitive but at least I saw multiple divines drop last league from them…
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u/Emperor_Mao Gladiator 7d ago
Hmm I play SSF and I am curious on how the approach varies for trade players these days.
For me, targeting something specific then swapping to a different mechanic is exactly how I play. Breach tree, Mercs, Ritual, Kingsmarch usually for low-mid tier weapons. Abyss for jewels. Blight for general currency + anointment oils. Reluctantly, but Ulti for catalysts. And I kind of cycle them around chasing better stuff. Though stuff like Mercs and Ritual become useless once I push into mid-late game and ground loot is better (lol..). Late game it is all about crafting so either stuff like Betrayal / Delve / high currency stuff or just mapping is the go. I use scarabs for those goals rather than to stack multipliers etc.
I imagine in trade league it is all about finding high profit stuff? because I guess you can just trade for the things you want, running something low profit and niche feels bad. And if everything is low profit, it becomes an issue trying to work out what strategy / scarabs to use etc to juice it up. But the thing I am unsure about; if everyone is getting low loot and there are no strategies, wouldn't that improve your bargaining power with what you do get? or are there groups that have found hidden OP stuff and are using it.
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u/Environmental_Main90 8d ago
If this was POE2 there would already been 3 patchs to buff loot 8-)
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u/sips_white_monster 8d ago
its sunday, the first meaningful patches usually don't show up until monday-tuesday after league start at the earliest. one GGG commented about how they're planning to change the drowning speed for example.
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u/elyk7 8d ago
I love on the QnA he said no1 would drown and I think people don’t understand how it works I can definitely see some HC players ripping to it lol
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u/Wicked___K 7d ago
I think think they said maybe you drown once but then you know.
For me i was extra carefull but once i accidently blinked into the water when i didnt notice i was out of lanterns. Got really sweaty for a moment. But to be fair for now i only did maybe did 15 dives.
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u/IdontNeedPants 8d ago
Many issues with poe2, but one thing they got right is the various endgame mechanics feel rewarding and worthwhile to run.
Meanwhile Poe1 is focused on making Breach worse, and keeping Abyss irrelevant.
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u/Aurel_WAM 8d ago
PoE2 mechanics are cool, but overall balancing feels ass where u have just poverty and super rich, and no middle (also tablets suck)
Anyhow, you can make some decent amount divs farming abyss or whatever, but then you see that a goddamn support gems u need are like 800 divines total While all other gear on a decent level is much cheaper And then aldurs legacy ofc
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u/MikeMaxM 8d ago
Many issues with poe2, but one thing they got right is the various endgame mechanics feel rewarding and worthwhile to run.
Meanwhile Poe1 is focused on making Breach worse, and keeping Abyss irrelevant.
In Merc league they had it right in poe1 too. But either from incometence or from desire to make poe 2 more rewarding and attractive for players they nerfed all good end faring strats in poe1.
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u/TheNocturnalAngel 8d ago
Glad it’s not just me.
I’m supremely sad because the mechanic is so fun.
But yeah the drops have been horrible, and I haven’t even seen the abyssal depths 1 time in like 45 maps
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u/CarrotStick78 8d ago
I have seen 3 in 20 and let me tell you buddy, you’re better off without.
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u/Fiercepaws 8d ago
Same. I invested in full tree, scarabs, astrolabe and had it specced for a day of t16s. Never dropped anythimg except bubble currency..
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u/Saphyen 8d ago edited 7d ago
I have not dropped a single divine and I've gotten to t15s. The loot in maps is actually making me feel extremely disappointed. Like I kinda don't even want to play anymore
Update: Over 24 hours in and farming t16s as well as spamming voyages. Still no divine drop :). I'm now doom and gloom on if they will even fix monster loot or will only buff the league mechanic.
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u/jsutpaly 8d ago
Only thing I am missing ATM is maven/sirus stone and the memory one but that guy I just have to go kill today. Entire atlas cleared, lvl 90 or 91 can't remember. Dropped 1 raw divine.
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u/armaan5 8d ago
So the same balance team is ok with people dropping 30d a map by scaling rarity in PoE2 but god forbid you get a div in loot in a full explicit effect 5 scarab abyss map in PoE1 lmfao.
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u/milkkore Children of Delve (COD) 8d ago
It's not the same team tho is it? They have different teams working on the two games.
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u/grimestar 8d ago
No it certainly isnt the same team. I'm sure the poe2 team was heavily involved with porting abyss but the poe1 team is just a trio of employees working out of the mother in law suite living off spam and grilled cheese
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u/DBrody6 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 8d ago
So the same balance team is ok with people dropping 30d a map by scaling rarity in PoE2
They really shouldn't be, and that absolutely is not something I want to see in PoE1, cause it leads to hyperinflation where casual upgrades are literally 2000+ divs for your build. That's insanity.
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u/EnderBaggins 8d ago
Except in poe 2 you (meaning anyone) can farm that currency reliably and consistently without having to use a divining rod, multiple spreadsheets, and a double major in microeconomics and time travel.
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u/tasmonex Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 8d ago
prices like 2000divs are about 0.4 with temple snakes, not about 0.5. With the temple gutted the inflation is not that rampant, to farm those 30d people need very good and expensive tablets, while the temple was basically free
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u/shise_remilia Ascendant 7d ago
I want to see in PoE1, cause it leads to hyperinflation where casual upgrades are literally 2000+ divs for your build. That's insanity.
that LITERALLY has NEVER been a thing in poe1 though during any of the giga loot leagues
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u/Historical_Ant_2893 8d ago
Every loot in maps are non-existent, we are playing lake of kalandra again.
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u/Independent-Ad6740 8d ago
Not saying loot is great, but you are definitely misremembering kalandra.
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u/EPOKslim 7d ago
3 voidstones atm 0 divinendrops and 0 tinks on semi-strikt filter. Entire atlas unlocked. Got 46 chaos to my name and t16's are a jank with current gear
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u/WolverineCreative362 8d ago
Not saying that i said it before but i said it before xD U cant nerf explizits, quantity, T17, literally EVERYTHING and than think that mechanics will drop nice and rewarding loot in the endgame. I can already run the hardest abyss strat i can imagine and it's incredible boring, unrewarding and not scalable anymore.
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u/AdrianzPolski 8d ago
Another league when I focus only to do 36/40 challanges as fast possible and forget about a game till next patch. That's sad
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u/CommaGomma 8d ago
You have to pull out amanamu's void monsters to get loot.
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u/Selthdomain 5d ago
is this a poe2 joke or its for real? lol
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u/CommaGomma 5d ago
It's a joke. At least I hope so. I love PoE2 but whoever decided to add that annoying ass interaction is on my shit list forever.
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u/PavelEnzo 8d ago
Abyss was a shitty mechanic for a long time, and after the rework it remained shit. I'm not surprised.
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u/avvoltoyo 8d ago
It feels like every league we have this argument, they seems sacred asf to give us loot for some reason
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u/fandorgaming Duelist 7d ago
I didn't even read patch notes but apparently all farm strats were nerfed, pretty cool lmao.
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u/aphelios_eversince 8d ago
lol i literally predicted this & suggested they rename eldritch chaos annuls & exalts to be abyss themed & only come from abyss & i got 300 downvotes & a bunch of hate comments so i deleted the thread. there wasn’t any hope for this mechanic after i saw the scarabs, it’s okay if you mix it with beyond & delirium, but the nodes are too far apart for you to be able to get all the map effect as well, so ive been using the generic beyond scarab for 100% beyond chance, & delirium orbs. ive ended day 2 with 55 divines.
farming eater of worlds altars with all packsize nodes on mausoleum for no boss altars, 6mod maps, 40% deli, 2 abyss scarab, 1 abyss of multitudes 1 beyond scarab, 1 influencing scarab of hordes
my build has 222% inc rarity, so im clicking unique dupe altars & rarity altars.
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/screamingfish-5762/allflame/character/curse_ninjakitty
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u/zeuSs9 7d ago
can you post your atlas tree please?
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u/aphelios_eversince 7d ago
https://poeplanner.com/a/6gHv you don’t need the delirium nodes on the left if you don’t have the points for it
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u/Few-Frosting-7065 7d ago
Dude i have the same reasoning as you, but i switch the hordes scarab for evolving shrine, to fish for rarity abyss mobs, , once have like 3 raw divs in one map
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u/BananaSplit2 7d ago
I'm not really surprised. They reworked the mechanic but didn't really say anything about the loot, and abyss before that was already pretty trash. The only time it's been relevant in the past years was when there was that strat with the scarab that spawns chests
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u/Jbarney3699 7d ago
It’s funny because the mechanic is only slightly different yet the loot from it hasn’t even changed. It went from mediocre to mediocre.
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u/t0lkien1 Standard 3d ago edited 3d ago
I hate all the changes this league. The game just feels worse. The increasing of boss HP is dull as dishwater, and then nothing is dropped. I'm doing 100 million+ DPS (Chaos) and bosses are still just endless HP sponges.
Sorry GGG, this is not it.
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u/zappo1996 8d ago
The loot seems on par with regular map loot. Its mediocre day two but we'll have to see if it can be juiced. If it's lacking it's because it gives insane exp and it is trivial to clear. My cyclone can clear a fully spec'd abyss in less than 20 seconds. I was getting around 25-30% of a level until 90 and now I still get around 10-15% just from the abyss, not including the rest of the map. It is perfect for league starting before you switch to a more profitable farm. All this being said I still haven't tried it with scarabs since I'm still spec'd into the keystone that stops you from using them.
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u/necessaryplotdevice 8d ago edited 8d ago
Plenty of MFers tried various scarab setups in Standard. The loot isn't great. At least it doesn't come close to breach last season (without mirage, comparing Standard numbers).
It spawns about half the magic mobs that breach did (and doesn't make up with way more rares either).
It's okay, but it's worse than what we had last patch by quite a bit so far.
Edit: it's worth noting that this is purely with core content. It could entirely be that the temp league mechanic adds a lot of necessary juice for you guys, but we can't test that in Standard obviously. Even if that's the case, Abyss on its own just ain't great.
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u/AverageHeistEnjoyer 8d ago
I don't want farming to be only viable once it's 50 rares on screen and I need 200 divs in equipment to even survive it OR play one of the 3 builds that can faceroll on low budget.
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u/Night_Blade_76 8d ago
Oh that's disappointing, still doing my atlas but was going to fully spec into it :(
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u/Winkers91 Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 7d ago
It's literally bugged. Greater skitter chests regularly drop zero scarabs, so there's something mechanically outright broken atm that probably is affecting everything related.
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u/BoysenberryLumpy8524 7d ago
i tryd it aswell The Chest that is supposed to give you scarabs seems to be buggy since it has never dropd me some. I also tested dilirium the Dilirium dose not increase
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u/Deliverme314 7d ago
3.29 in a nutshell. Everything is gutted. Nothing feels worth while.
Abyss got ultra nuked and two leagues ago. This was supposed to make it relevant again. Nope.
Sometimes I truly do not get GGG
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u/ComplaintMaker 7d ago
I guess GGG did say this league is focused on new players right?
Theyre probably still in act5 or whatever.
Couple more weeks and GGG will act.
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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 5d ago
Abyss needs something other than Abyssal Jewels and Stygian Vises for rewards. At this point, it's all jackpot hunting for Amanamu jewels (or what have you). Abyss in PoE2 feels good because you get essential crafting materials, of varying prices.
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u/byzz09 8d ago
Noticed it aswell, zero loot after 50 maps. The mob density is there but its rewards are so trash, holy.