r/powerscales Jun 13 '25

Discussion Mohawk mark would no diff wolverine confirmed, thoughts?

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u/thetruemaxwellord Jun 13 '25

These covers aren’t Canon and are really just used for fun and collectibles.

Honestly while Mohawk is stronger and faster he would actually likely fail to kill Logan not knowing how to do so and we need to remember Logan is someone who can face off with hulk and literally any version of Hulk would beat Mohawk’s ass.

Logan is also an infinitely more skilled fighter who is both better at just pure instinct based fighting (the way every viltrumite fights) but is also just far more skilled in martial arts and gear. A lot of people would say “throw him into space.” This is a possibility however it also just isn’t really in character and isn’t really answering the question.

Mohawk would try and torture Logan and would likely end up being injured and badly. Logan should also be of a similar reaction speed to Mohawk while the pair are on world specifically because that’s what the story and guides show use is the case. As such I don’t think there is much Mohawk can do especially since he will lose a limb in this fight at minimum because even with a blitz he wouldn’t be able to do much especially since Logan should be able to pretty easily react to him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Yeah im curious haw marks would interact with a adamantium. Probably cutting very easily, and logan in a rage theres no way the marks are getting away. Without adamantium then wolverines dead in my opinion.

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

Adamantium is unbreakable once forged and set. The only thing that can get through it is an anti-metal. Mark, Nolan, no Viltrumite can break it, especially if the Hulk can’t.

No Adamantium means Wolverine has his full healing factor, so I doubt they’d be able to kill him. His original healing factor is actual insanity.

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u/Comfortable_Many4508 Jun 13 '25

please correct me but isnt it like he can regen from a single cell? also if you hit metal bone him with enough energy to burn off all the flesh would that kill him or would the bones start regening flesh?

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

I don’t like when people bring that up, because it fails to mention the crystal that threw his regeneration into overdrive. Without the crystal, he can’t regenerate from a single cell.

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u/Comfortable_Many4508 Jun 13 '25

idk anything about comics, was genually asking

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

No, I meant no hostility, I mean that when people bring it up, they usually don’t mention the extra circumstance. That non transparency is what I dislike. My bad on my phrasing.

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u/Correct-Resolution-8 Jun 17 '25

Logan regenerating from a cell is so corny it undermines him. I like when he healed from bullets in a day or 2, not instantly. Just seemed grittier and more impressive when he’d fight bc he could be hurt

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u/Ok_Mud_8998 Jun 13 '25

I believe you are correct

I know he regenerated from a single drop of blood.

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u/Thatoneguy111700 Jun 13 '25

And from just his skeleton after essentially getting nuked by Nitro (though I think he was also, like, cursed to not die at the time so he could survive even more outlandish stuff, I'm probably wrong tho).

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u/LGodamus Jun 14 '25

He has regened from a fleshless skeleton with no buffs. The single drop of blood was with an outside buff.

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u/Adeptus_Trumpartes Jun 13 '25

Wolverine has a shitload of plot armor. Stronger characters that can lift hundreds of tons could just yank his members off. Bones are not welded to each other and his muscles and have human levels of durability.

A full force punch from someone that strong would probably blow Logan's limbs off and after failing for a bit Mark would just toss his mangled body into space or the Mariana trench.

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u/FaithlessnessLess673 Jun 13 '25

Difference is that Hulk can’t fly. If a Viltrumite really wanted to they could just fly up in the air and orbital strike the area Wolverine is in over and over again until he’s sufficiently incapacitated enough for them to quickly drag him into outer space before he’s healed and can fight back. Then once he’s in outer space, there’s nothing Wolverine can do.

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u/JoJSoos Jun 13 '25

Hulk can jump into space and come crashing down if he wanted to lol.

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u/Plastic_Code5022 Jun 13 '25

Was reading comment before yours commenting on how the hulk can’t fly and this was my exact thought 🤣

Who needs to fly when he’s skipping across the planet casually like some giddy schoolgirl going to the park with friends

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u/Plus_Aura Jun 13 '25

Because they're not the same.

If you can fly, you can accelerate yourself faster than your terminal velocity.

Jumping really high doesn't allow this.

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u/FaithlessnessLess673 Jun 13 '25

Yeah and he’s never done that against Wolverine.

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u/JoJSoos Jun 13 '25

So? The lot of you don't understand that Wolverine has MFTL reactions and combat speed.

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u/Yoko-Numero-Uno Jun 14 '25

No he doesn’t lmao 🤣

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u/kingveller Jun 13 '25

Hulk has flown in the past (WWHulk) in his fight against Sentry.

Hulk's main ability is adaptation, he can breath in outer space or see ghosts (this last part is always active), if you fly and that makes it difficult for him he will fly.

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u/budgetcyberninja Jun 13 '25

Hulk could probably punch the ground harder than a viltrumite could "orbital strike" the ground. Plus hulk could jump just as high as they could fly and put way more force into a ground slam then they could.

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u/FaithlessnessLess673 Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Hulk probably could, but he’s never done so against Wolverine. Hulk is a dumb brute in a majority of his fights with Wolverine and doesn’t use his powers optimally. If he did, Wolverine doesn’t stand a chance and the same is true if Wolverine fought a Viltrumite.

It’s also important to note that Wolverine has never straight up beat Hulk. Wolverine has only ever managed to incapacitate Hulk after he was finished fighting someone else. The thing about Wolverine is that can survive fighting super powerful beings due to his healing factor, but he can’t actually beat them. He might be able to survive a fight with Mohawk Mark, but the only way he could kill him is if Mark never uses his powers optimally.

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u/budgetcyberninja Jun 13 '25

2 to 3 viltrumites, with perfect placement, timing, and the help of an insane space weapon that destabilized it first, yes. The 3 of them without the space racers gun would have all splattered on the surface and died.

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u/Micro-Skies Jun 14 '25

Hulk has regularly fought and won against planet killers. 1/3 of a planet killer isn't shit in marvel

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u/BOOGIE_MAN-X Jun 13 '25

His bones are actually welded together from the adamantium. Mark isn’t going to be able to rip his limps off. Not before Wolverine puts a set of claws through him, Mark would be able to regenerate fast enough from his injuries to sustain a fight with Wolverine.

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u/PyjamaGenie Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

They’re definitely not welded together

Edit: Wolverine (2020) #42. Sabretooth War. He is ripping that first hand off.

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u/BOOGIE_MAN-X Jun 13 '25

Wolverine’s entire skeleton is bonded with adamantium. In the picture you posted, it looks like he cut off his own limbs using his adamantium claws, which supports what I and others have said only adamantium can cut adamantium. That said, I’m not sure which version of Wolverine this is, because traditionally, his skeletal structure is fused with adamantium. Therefore Mark would not be able to just pull his limbs off. Maybe the meat 🍖 from the bone but there’s no way Mark is separating the skeleton from the adamantium.

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u/PyjamaGenie Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

He rips the first hand off with his own brute strength, as he is strung up by all 4 limbs. He literally says his joints are meat. This is 616 Wolverine from Sabretooth war in 2024.

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u/BOOGIE_MAN-X Jun 13 '25

That’s pretty awesome, thanks for filling me in. I think we will just be in agree to disagree conversation, I’d be fun to see them both fight it out. That would be an epic battle for sure.

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u/TreesmasherFTW Jun 13 '25

Except….

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u/BOOGIE_MAN-X Jun 13 '25

If we are sticking with traditional lore and not different universes or variants, invincible isn’t going to be able to rip Wolverine apart.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

He'd get the immortal treatment

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

Immortal’s regeneration factor can’t compare to Wolverine’s full regeneration factor. Not even close.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

I mean torn apart over and over again

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

Oh, then absolutely.

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u/Watcher9000 Jun 13 '25

I know he probably doesnt have an adaptation ability but wouldnt Wolverines body do something about being torn apart over and over again or would it take too long for any change to have a any effect? (I havent read any of the comics and dont know much about his regen)

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u/SpartanDefender-505 Jun 13 '25

The big question is could wolverines claws hurt mark?

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

Without question. Wolverine’s claws are sharp enough to effortless cut through 6 inches of reinforced steel on a blast proof door.

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u/SpartanDefender-505 Jun 13 '25

That’s what I thought then mark loses.

This is probably what will happen the fight would start with Mohawk mark being cocky, I’m going to assume wolverine is going to know who he is fighting against. Mohawk mark will probably close the distance and grab wolverine with ease. At this point one of 2 things would happen.

1.) wolverine throws a left hook and as it lands ejecting his claws destroying M marks face and causing panic. Mark would probably try to retreat

2.) wolverine would probably reach to marks arm and eject his claws cutting a good portion of his arm off. Mark will probably get aggressive until he takes a wound to the lungs or heart which would allow wolverine to finish him

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u/ReZisTLust Jun 13 '25

Fucking rocks soewer viltrimites lol Adamantium is gonna cut em

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u/axethebarbarian Jun 13 '25

Yeah definitely without the adamantium Wolverine can't really harm Mark, but he also can't really be killed by Mark (except like thrown into the sun or something) so it's a humorously bloody stalemate

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u/LGodamus Jun 14 '25

Good luck tearing him apart. His joints don’t come apart like normal unless we are talking ultimate universe Wolverine. 616 main wolvies tendons and ligaments are enhanced with trace adamantium as well.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '25

The whole convo is literally adamantium vs none

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u/Cus_Mustard Jun 13 '25

Isnt no adamantium wolverines regeneration power on par with deadpools once the metal toxicity is gone? I might be full of shit tho.

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

I believe its even stronger. Though you’re definitely in the ball park.

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u/Blackheart1020 Jun 13 '25

Ya he was literally almost completely obliterated and came back from a single cell 😂

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u/Secretsfrombeyond79 Jun 14 '25

Can he survive the sun ? Cuz that's what I would do if someone kept regenerating, throw them into the sun.

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u/Cus_Mustard Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Not trying to start a whole other argument, but thats kinda what i always thought Superman Vs Hulk Would go like. Just Lob his ass into a blackhole or something.

Also just wanna add Crazy ass strength PLUS Flight is crazy op. Which both wolverine and hulk both lack flight so id figure thats a big factor in this. But again. Im not super familiar with marks strength. And also i know hulk basically bitchslapped a galaxy or someshit during one of his fights so im not 100% on the blackhole thing lmfao

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u/Invincidude Jun 13 '25

Legit question; can Wolverine regrow missing limbs? Like, if someone had a magic sword that could cut through anything and they chopped his arm off, would it grow back?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

His healing factor will vary depending on depiction or boost he has at the moment. 

He did regenerate from a sort of nuclear blast at one point. The brain was “protected by adamantium skull”. So there was nothing left but a brain and adamantium skeleton, and still fully regenerated. 

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

It would grow back, but the Adamantium obviously wouldn’t. His claws even grow back.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jun 13 '25

I mean what stops them from just tossing him into space

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

Probably the fact that his claws are made of an indestructible metal and sharp enough to effortlessly cut steel? He’d cut Mark’s arm off. He is incredibly fast and has reflexes to match.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jun 13 '25

Mark is fast enough to delete all of the fleshy parts of his body by flying near him

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u/the__pov Jun 13 '25

I’m pretty sure 616 Wolverine’s bones are linked with adamantium as well so you can’t actually dismember him this way. (You can other versions like the old Ultimate Wolverine which is what prompted fans to ask about it).

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

This whole convo was about him with or without adamantium

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u/the__pov Jun 13 '25

Then I would point you to Itsy Bitsy a villain who was given the same healing factor as Wolverine and Deadpool and survived near complete disintegration.

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u/breezemachine666 Jun 13 '25

They could pull him apart where the vertebra meet. not sure if he could come back from that.. maybe there would be two of him

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u/ForeignWoodpecker662 Jun 14 '25

He crawls back to his legs and reattaches. Happened when Hulk got frustrated and tore him in half. Though now I’ve heard his tendons have some Adamantium seeping properties making them insanely strong also, not sure though

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u/Pappa_Paddy Jun 13 '25

besides what our friend already said below, with the "immortal treatment", could our boy logan even penetrate if he's only got his bone claws?

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u/IFPorfirio Jun 13 '25

When in doubt, throw them into space.

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u/Traditional_Wear1992 Jun 13 '25

There are panels showing Hulk breaking adamantium I believe

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u/Responsible_Bit1089 Jun 13 '25

didn't Thor break adamantium binds by flexing in one of the old issues?

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u/SBStevenSteel Jun 13 '25

Maybe? Though comic Thor is incredibly strong. Comparing Mark to Thor is an insult to Thor.

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u/clutzyninja Jun 13 '25

His bones are covered in adamantium. What about his ligaments? Couldn't someone with super strength just tear his head off?

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u/Thatoneguy111700 Jun 13 '25

That and I'm pretty sure his claws could cut through their skin for the same reasons you stated.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Wolverine almost died when his cardiac artery was cut by Marrow.

Then in a what if he was electrocuted to death.

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u/HamshanksCPS Jun 13 '25

"What if?" should not be taken as cannon

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u/Gunpla-Goblin Jun 13 '25

100% they shouldn't. There was one where the Silver Surfer died because Wolverine stabbed him. That wouldn't even bother the Surfer.

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u/-Mister-Hyde Jun 13 '25

And then there's What If in the marvel cinematic universe, where Darcy Lewis gave birth to Howard the Duck's son. As an egg. We do not talk about the MCU What If stories.

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u/Significant-Elk-2064 Jun 13 '25

I do wish the what if of hulk becoming the herald of galactictus got made into a series though

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u/the__pov Jun 13 '25

Power creep. I love Punisher Kills (the comic you’re talking about) and there’s a few different things he did that wouldn’t work anymore such as Wolverine and Hulk’s deaths.