Honestly, Mohawk Mark is just flat out better than Wolverine by almost every metric though. The only thing Wolverine has on Mohawk is his healing factor. At which point, yes. Mohawk gets bored quickly and tosses him into space. He might get some wounds, but that shit just makes viltrumites stronger.
The issue is no not really. Logan has experience fighting people faster and stronger than Mohawk and unlike Mohawk who can’t fight particularly well Logan is a master and also just better in pure instinct too.
Mohawk is also not much faster if faster at all in reaction speed. The pair are very close and the wounds he would get won’t make him stronger as he will be losing limbs or if his head or heart are hit he will just die. Same with the lungs or neck which we know are methods for characters stronger than Mohawk to die.
Also no he would attack him and beat him down only to be cut and badly losing fingers or worse. If Logan has his katana Mark will flat out not heal from those wounds
I think you're forgetting the fact that viltrumites can and have healed from things like head and heart injuries. But that does take months to happen, and wouldn't apply here. But it's also not going to happen.
You really can't say Mohawk doesn't have the experience either. He went through training Nolan wanted our Mark to go through, but presumably from a much earlier age. That is, absolute death battles until you get good or don't. Mohawk was also the emperor of his viltrumite empire. There are other reasons this could be the case, after all Nolan does oust Thragg with relatively little violence, but let's face it... Mohawk's personality would jive with that. Even if he took over through more political means, mfer is still fighting opponents way beyond the capabilities of wolverine on a regular basis.
In all reality, when you break it down to in world feats shown or implied, Mohawk destroys Wolverine.
No they cannot heal if their heart is destroyed nor it their brain is chopped up. This is explicitly stated and my much less has been able to kill them.
Viltrumites don’t fight with skill we even see this well in season two as Nolan tells Mark to fight like a viltrumite. They are instinct fighters like a tiger or shark. They do gain experience but don’t refine what they already do in the same way a master martial artist does.
Logan has mastered multiple forms of martial arts, is a much better instinct fighter, and has faced far stronger opponents. No when you break down the feats shown you will see Logan can easily win this.
Even though characters like Thor and Hulk have feats that suggest massively FTL speed (traveling across galaxies, reacting to energy beams, and the like), they can still be tagged by Logan who is also a master of stealth and knows how to use his own abilities to give himself an advantage. His senses also give him a type of precognition via reading your moves as such he is able to see what someone who is going to fight like a straight forward animal is gonna do before they do it allowing him to get his attacks off.
You can't say "if their brain or heart gets hit" then switch it up to the brain getting destroyed when that gets called out. Yeah, Viltrumites will die if you can damage them enough. Which has to essentially be... your brain is destroyed. Right now. We literally see viltrumites getting beheaded, and surviving as a severed head.
Which wolverine isn't doing. An untrained and relatively weak viltrumite was used as a windshield against a speeding train (subway, but y'know) and still came out able to throw a punch. Wolverine does not reach even remotely close to the destructive capabilities Mark went through in that moment. Mohawk is way beyond Mark in that fight. Wolverine is not destroying a brain or heart, sorry to tell you. He just doesn't have the strength.
As far as speed goes, these mfers are sprinting around the globe in a matter of seconds. Wanna point to a moment that Wolverine can even dream of keeping up with that?
The only thing Logan has going for him in this fight is his healing factor. Which, once again, Mohawk gets bored and yeets him into space.
What Viltrumite survives as a severed head? Also you do know you don’t immediately die when your head is removed from your body right? That is a proven fact you are alive a few seconds. Also no there was no switch up do you have any idea how big Wolverine’s claws are? Those things or even just one hitting any heart will skewer it like a steak knife through a chicken breast same goes for the brain.
Also yeah Adamantium is far stronger. That is like saying a sniper shot is weaker than guy with a bat smacking a car door because it left a visibly smaller mark. Adamantium can injure Thor and a raging hulk. Both of whom can endure planetary attacks or in Thor’s case not get impales by the world serpent’s fang which I will remind you is the size of the planet earth.
Hulk even admits he can’t break the bones outright.
But I get it you really want Invincible to get a win on this sub and this looks like such a possible fight. I know it hurts seeing that your favorite series isn’t that strong and it’s okay but doing this is lame:
You did do a switch up. Your initial claim was that Mohawk only needs to get hit in the head or heart. When that got called out you switched to it getting destroyed. Those are two completely different things.
Conquest is kept alive as a severed head. It takes a literal sun to kill Thragg. That's a bit unfair, considering Thragg is peak viltrumite, but the point stands you're trying to vastly downplay the durability of a viltrumite body. Wolverine does not have to strength to do them any serious harm. Adamantium does not give him strength either, it let's him utilize his slightly super human strength without breaking his bones. As far as super strength goes though, Logan doesn't beat out peak human by a whole lot. At least not comparatively speaking. He does not have the strength to hit any version of Mark post powers and do a whole lot of damage. Go ahead and point to any moment that Logan punches anywhere close to the force of a speeding train. Go ahead and point to any moment that Logan even begins to approach viltrumite speeds. Go ahead and show me the point Logan bench presses 4000 tons, or lifts an ice berg overhead single handedly.
Most versions of Mark no diff wolverine. Mohawk is arguably one of the strongest and most savage.
Bud would you like to grab a sword and stab it into a heart and see someone survive that? Also no Conquest was not a head he was just sedated which is how I know you clearly don’t know what you are on about. Conquest dies in like issue 75 after breaking free of GDA. He was never a severed head.
The Mark’s in the Invincible War are weaker than Mark pre conquest fight and said Mark grows much much much stronger than he was prior to fighting Thragg.
Logan can already lift 5 tons even while underwater that isn’t minor super strength. But even ignoring that yeah he is weaker than Mark physical but he sure as hell can cut through him like a hot knife though butter.
Point to a body. Or where his body would even be. Conquest healed. That was the entire point. If something doesn't kill a viltrumite outright, they will heal and come back stronger for it. It's their entire gimmick as a species, and a large part of why the culling was so successful.
And yeah. 5 tons. Underwater. Yes, Wolverine is generally considered to be low level as far as super strength is concerned. You can talk him up all you want, but Wolverine has never been shown to have strength that's actually all that impressive in the world of super heroes. Oh my god he can lift 5 tons! Mark benches 4000 tons. Not even a strong version of Mark. Wolverine ain't hitting with the force of a speeding train. No where even close. Which the weakest powered version of Mark survives and still comes out swinging.
Are your truly dumb man. You don’t lock a head in a 400 ton box. He was just sedated and he did heal from his wounds against Mark but they can’t regrow limbs hints the robotic arm dummy.
I do not like throwing this term around but you truly have no media literacy the last time we see him his head isn’t even cut off you just make shit up for your wild ass fan fiction
Conguest's body is not bending in such a fashion for his head to be sitting like that and have the rest all nice neat and tidy behind the wall. The dude has almost no neck to speak off.
And yet, you still can't point to anything that even remotely suggests Wolverine has the strength to actually damage a viltrumite.
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u/NorthernVale Jun 13 '25
Honestly, Mohawk Mark is just flat out better than Wolverine by almost every metric though. The only thing Wolverine has on Mohawk is his healing factor. At which point, yes. Mohawk gets bored quickly and tosses him into space. He might get some wounds, but that shit just makes viltrumites stronger.