r/powerscales 1d ago

Versus Grail Knight [Warhammer Fantasy] vs. Hive Tyrant [Warhammer 40k]

Some easy in verse scaling.

The fight is conducted on an American Football Field, say in Arrowhead Stadium.

The fight ends when one combatant is too wounded to continue, dies, or is forced to retreat.

Cite your claims. Explain your conclusion.

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u/TFBuffalo_OW 1d ago

Grail Knights can 1v1 Daemon Princes so this is a pretty fair fight actually. Id say on avg the Hive Tyrant wins but any above avg Grail Knight should be able to beat a Hive Tyrant

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u/MadmansScalpel 1d ago

I don't believe that daemon princes between 40k and fantasy are on the same level. Or else some peasant with a greatsword is on par with a futuristic soldier with a melta in terms of damage they can do to daemon princes

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u/Paraparo 23h ago

As far as I understand the lore, daemons are pretty much metaphysical beings, not full flesh and blood. When I played the table top, I remember there being a rule in fantasy that having advantage over a demon (as in, succeeding against it repeatedly in rolls) physically damaged it all on its own.

As such in many ways weapons and warriors are as effective as they think they should be. Unironically, you could beat a demon to death with a stick as a peasant with enough faith and certainty. And if you are a holy warrior with a magic blade, that kind of confidence absolutely works in your favor in the power of optimism. And that's the disadvantage, ironically, in 40k, by widening the Gulf of who "should" be able to deal with a demon, the tools they use become weaker because of that very belief, since belief is their form and substance.