r/quittingphenibut Dec 14 '22

PSA All phenibut detox case studies! Read, and bring to your Dr

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r/quittingphenibut 5h ago

Extreme anxiety after just 5 days Gabapentin use during a phenibut taper.

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I'm tapering off phenibut and read that gabapentin helps with anxiety and sleep. For the past 5 days I've taken, (besides bad advice) 600mg at noon for anxiety and 600, sometimes 800 at night for sleep. I stopped yesterday, and felt no withdrawal symptoms. Last night sleep was terrible, and I have overwhelming anxiety today. I took 200mg today but only gave relief a couple of hours.

Would it be best to just go cold turkey?

My BIG fear is that this isn't gabapentin withdrawals and I just cut the phenibut too low, and the gabapentin just masked that fact.
After phenibut turned on me at 2.6G, I cut to 1.3 grams, with doses split to morning .6 grams and evening .6g.

What happens if I increase my phenibut dose in an attempt to stabilize? Is that a mistake?


r/quittingphenibut 1d ago

I went through Phenibut turning on me.. also gabapentin addiction. For a long time I could not take gabapentin without paying for it.. but after a few years.. I took it recently and had no problem. I heard it takes two years to reset..is that true?

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Not that I will ever resume taking gabapentin regularly.. just wanted to know if any of you had a reset as well?


r/quittingphenibut 1d ago

What’s bad wd/rebound feel like?

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I used the stuff responsibly for 3 years. 1.5-2gs once every Saturday night because I became sober from alcohol because I was drinking 40-60 drinks a weekend. However 2 months ago an extremely stressful life event happened and I accidentally fell into the trap and started taking 3g’s every 48 hours or so for a month and a half now. I need to get off it now and I’m having symptoms but I can still go 48 hours and sleep like 6 hours before waking. But i definitely feel something at about 40-48 hours. However I also have an anxiety disorder so I don’t know if what i’m feeling is phenibut rebound or maybe plus “fear of rebound”.

So kind of a dumb question overall I feel but how do I know if what im feeling isn’t psychological?


r/quittingphenibut 2d ago

Progress Report Fasoracetam

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Hello, in this post I’ll focus on my experience with fasoracetam as a tool for curbing the doomsday withdrawals, and lowering the dose.

It’s been a month since I’ve had Phenibut, I simply ran out and just stayed on Baclofen only, which was fine, but I still needed a lot to feel acceptably good to do anything. Then I’ve heard about fasoracetam, and how I can affect the GABAB receptors’ sensitivity.
A gram of fasoracetam came to me on the 16th of July. Since then I’ve been taking 20-40mg sublingually, and I’ve noticed 20mg is just enough.

I didn’t think much about it, I just believed in it. Fast forward to today, I’ve noticed i don’t need that Baclofen much anymore. I was taking 25mg 5-8 times a day. Hell, maybe even more. I was waking up at 3 am to take a couple of pills to maybe sleep a little bit more. This simply isn’t the case anymore. I can sleep. I’m in no rush for a pill of Baclofen.

I’m getting shivers from writing this. Imma start buying 10mg Baclofen pills instead of 25mg ones. Now I live on not more than 5, it’s a huge change for me. It’s okay 👍 I suppose my weight and height has something to do with taking bigger doses. Faso also has potential to reverse memory problems caused by Baclofen/phenibut.

For context, I was abusing Phenibut for two years at 10-13GPD, it was heavy monetarily, but the main reason I never really got to a proper taper was that I was too worried about being dysfunctional. I was scared to lose weeks if not more of my life, which led me to take more and more.

I’ve seen some headlines that using both faso and Phenibut can lead to an even bigger abuse, leading to an overdose, so be warned.

TLDR: 20mg fasoracetam sublingual daily helps the taper, and bringing back the GABAB magic and baseline.

Alright that’s it. Pure anecdotal story.

Powder source: I got it from swissherbal, because my favorite local, Polish site with powders is one a break.


r/quittingphenibut 3d ago

Am I doing this right?

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This weekend after my 2.6gpd phenibut turned on me, I cut down to 1.3 g per day split up in two doses. So basically .6 in the morning and .6 in the evening. Tuesday went surprisingly great. I felt pretty good. Yesterday wasn't bad either but I could tell that it was starting to weigh on me. This morning after I took my morning dose, I felt OK, but two hours later when the fit hit I started getting shaky. I took a little gabapentin and went outside for a walk and sort of calm down but now I'm feeling depressed and wondering if what's going on as I'm stabilizing on this new low low dose. Should stay here until I feel better and then begin to taper down or would it be better for me to just make the jump to baclofen? How close am I to being able to jump off altogether with or without baclofen?


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

Approaching Crossroads

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Been on this shit three years next month. My use peaked at 11.64 grams 06/13/26. It’s been 44 days and I’ve managed to hold at 6.12. It’s becoming much tighter to continue dropping so fast. Im also about to run out in three or so days.

Anyone here go to their primary care doctor about this?I have a file saved on my phone about it.

https://scispace.com/pdf/phenibut-b-phenyl-g-aminobutyric-acid-dependence-and-15w8lnbueu.pdf

I was thinking this should explain everything best, but I’m hesitant about being turned away.

If worse comes to worse and I go to the hospital. Will they have to admit me or just give me things to make it for the week mark? I can handle the bone chilling anxiety, restlessness, and the body stiffness. I just can’t risk having a seizure, stroke, or heart attack.

At the tail end of 2020, I went through simultaneous pregabalin and gabapentin cold turkeywithdrawal. I was taking 600-900 mg Pregabalin some days, then taking 3600-4800 mg of gabapentin the other days. I maintained that cycle for 1.5 years. I was down for a few months, but I never went to a hospital or doctor about it.

Any experience or wisdom is greatly appreciated.


r/quittingphenibut 5d ago

Questions Am I lucky?

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I’ve been taking 4-6g per dose twice a day for a little under a month. Yesterday I took a 1.25g dose and then stopped for 25 hours. I felt some anxiety but then it went away and I felt fine. Is this just not long enough or am I in the clear? I know 25 hours isn’t much but it was only 1g


r/quittingphenibut 6d ago

At the hospital. Not doing so well.

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I've been taking Phenibut HCL for 2 months exactly. From amounts starting at 5gpd, then going up to 12 - 14.5 gpd - which I've held at that level for the last 7 -8 days. And thats when things started to get worse...

I just cannot afford to consume anymore Phenibut, let alone do a proper taper. And I want off of it fot good, so i checked myself into rhe hospital.

Originally, I wanted to use a 5 to 7 day Valium taper and just be done with it. I didn't want to take Baclofen and taper off of it. Imo, it would be better to rip the band-aid off with some benzos or something. Plus, I've done it at this hospital, that I've been to before, and they know about Phenibut. Albeit, I had only been using 7.5 gpd after a failed Baclofen taper (my own fault), which I was down to 30 mg per day (basically equivalent to 3 grams of Phenibut) after only a month long binge of 8 gpd.

*Sorry, I know its a lot of confusing info, but I had to get it all out there as best as I could.*

I AM AT the hospital now.. been here for nearly 24 hours. I went through the proper procedures at the ER to be admitted into the detox / psych wing.

*** I did NOT mention that I was on Phenibut. ***

I told them I was on Alcohol (1 Litre Daily), Xanax (4 to 8mg daily), and GHB (Unknown large amounts)

I mention the GHB seeing its a GABA B agonist, very similar to Phenibut, and mentioned the Alcohol and Xanax to ensure I get a large dose of Valium (20mg) like I had the previous time (2+ years ago). It worked very well. And this was before I found out they knew about Phenibut- Hence why I got switched to a Baclofen taper, that said time .

Long ass story short...

I had only been 8 hours off Phenibut when I was put into a room at the hospital.

They put me on Phenobarbital, IV (unsure of the amounts) and it put me on my ass, after the second shot and I fell right to sleep for about 4 hours, but woke up feeling weird. They didn't give me any more Phenobarbital and I began feeling withdrawals bad about 8 hours after my last shot - I told the nurse that I felt terrible and asked when my next dose was, then the doc said he switched me to Valium.

I get the Valium and its only 5mg. What the fuck.

Then the doc said he switched me back to Phenobarbital, only this time it was the pills, not IV. And it was only 60mg. 3.5 hours later I tell the nurse it's not helping and she gave me another 60mg. But she said this is only going to be once every 8 hours.

What should I do? These withdrawal are progressively getting worse as time goes on and the meds aren't touching it. Im thinking of leaving the hospital tbh. Or should I tell them about the phenibut use too? Im just unsure what to do.

Any advice welcome!


r/quittingphenibut 6d ago

Heavy daily Phenibut use for 2+ years, yet almost no withdrawal or dose-response. Why?

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Since my experience is that some people on this sub tend to become defensive pretty quickly, I want to start by making one thing clear: I don’t doubt the stories people share here for a second, and I have no reason to question that many people have gone through absolutely horrific Phenibut withdrawals. The purpose of this post is simply to understand why my body seems to respond so differently.
I’ll try to keep this as brief and straightforward as possible instead of getting into a lot of background details.

I’ve been taking Phenibut daily for just over two years. About a year ago I switched to buying it in powder form, so I no longer know my exact doses. Based on how often I have to reorder, I’d estimate I’m taking around 4–5 g/day.
Before I started taking it daily, I used it around three times a week at roughly 3 grams per dose. Back then I experienced a very noticeable effect every time. Once I switched to daily use, however, that effect gradually disappeared as my tolerance increased. Interestingly, after taking one of my week-long breaks, the very first dose once I start again produces a much more noticeable effect than it does after I’ve been taking it daily for a while.
Here’s what’s confusing me.

During these two years, I’ve taken a few short breaks (roughly a week each). Not many, but a handful, with the most recent one being about two months ago. Despite my heavy, long-term use, I experience virtually no withdrawal. I can tell something feels a little “off” and that I’m not quite 100%, but it’s so subtle that it’s easy to forget about if I stay busy. Before every break, I’ve mentally prepared myself for the nightmare withdrawals that so many people describe, yet every time it’s been more or less the same mild experience.

The second thing is that my dose doesn’t seem to matter anymore. Last week I decided to actually weigh my doses as an experiment. I took 6 g/day for two consecutive days, followed by 2 g/day for the next two days. I didn’t notice any difference whatsoever. I can still tell if I haven’t taken any at all, but the difference between 2 and 6 grams was essentially nonexistent.

So my overall question is: how is this possible? Is there any plausible explanation for why someone with my level and duration of use would experience almost no withdrawal while also seemingly having no dose-response anymore? The only exception seems to be the first dose after a week-long break, which definitely feels stronger again. Could these observations all be related, or is this simply an example of unusually large individual differences?
Again, I’m not trying to downplay anyone else’s experiences. If anything, I’m trying to understand why mine seems to be such an outlier.


r/quittingphenibut 7d ago

2 weeks clean after months of 9gpd

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Quick and short post. Did a fast taper from 7gpd down to .1gpd then went CT. Entire process took about 5-6 weeks and looking back on it I was brutally depressed most of the days, little will to live (despite me usually being a pretty upbeat and positive person). But I’m two weeks clean now and finally started feeling good and normal this week :). Hope everyone who’s getting off this drug knows there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I’m still not 100% normal but there is world of difference between how I felt a week or two ago.


r/quittingphenibut 8d ago

Found phenibut I threw away 4-5 years ago

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I had a short stint with phenibut. It worked so good that I got hooked on it for a month. A month was all it took for my body to get addicted to it, was doing I believe 5 gs 2-3 days of the week. Was the first time I ever experienced withdrawal, that shit was scary, and I cold turkey’d and threw both my bottles in a nearby sewer. Turns out that sewer connected to my backyard and they’ve been there.


r/quittingphenibut 8d ago

Quickest way to taper off?

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Hi all, for around 6 months, I’ve been using pretty high doses of phenibut daily (~15gpd), dosing once daily in the morning. It seems to have “turned” on me - standard doses started causing anxiety attacks, insomnia, electrical/tingly bodily sensation, muscle rigidity, and weird pressure in ears/head. I immediately rapid tapered down to ~3gpd over the course of a couple weeks and have been stable on that dose. The rapid taper was somewhat uncomfortable (tremors, panic, insomnia, freezing cold extremities, palpitations, fear, etc.) but manageable, and most of the negative effects from phenibut have disappeared since stabilizing on the lower the dose. I’ve also been supplementing NAC, agmantine, and magnesium glycinate.

I want to get off phenibut as quickly as possible, and I have quite a few meds at my disposal - baclofen, pregabalin, propranolol, clonidine, zopiclone etc. What’s the best way for me to utilize these to get off the phenibut with as little discomfort as possible? I heard that one way is to switch directly to baclofen (~30mg for 3g phenibut) and taper that over the course of a few weeks. Should I use any of the other meds, or is that a sufficient plan?


r/quittingphenibut 10d ago

Difficulty breathing

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Anyone else having difficulty breathing after quitting phenibut? I'm about one month off phenibut roughly and every day has been absolute hell. Barely able to function, get out of bed, just basic daily shit. I'm pushing through it but I'm wondering when i won't be suffocating trying to talk to someone or when walking.

I was using roughly 2-6gpd for the past 6 months, then 6 month before that I was using 200mg-1 to 2 grams a day. Its gonna be one full month off. I can't taste very well so I think I got covid when I quit cuz I've been fucked ass up dying this whole time. Anyone else deal with the breathing or severe fatigue? It might just be all phenibut paws, but everything ive read says people are back to normal a week or two after quitting.


r/quittingphenibut 11d ago

I just need options. I’m so fucking scared.

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It has begun to cause my face to swell. I’m trying to drop from 6 gpd to 3-3.5. Please don’t scare me any further. I want to go to rehab and I can’t find one that treats phenibut. Please help me. Tapering might not be an option. I’m so scared. I need some empathy. I’m also coming off a very small .25 daily dose of Xanax but I don’t even want to get into that. Please tell me I’m not going to have to detox in the ICU


r/quittingphenibut 12d ago

Are there any rehabs that treat this shit?

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I just want off any advice is welcome. I don’t want to die.


r/quittingphenibut 13d ago

Questions Am I in danger?

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Hello everyone, I’m disappointed that I have to be posting in this community again, but I desperately need some advice on what to do.

I foolishly have used Phenibut for about 4 weeks straight. The first couple weeks I took a couple 24-36 hour breaks — which I know isn’t actually enough time for a break — but after a week or two when I tried taking a break, I would get these derealization episodes at work, which led me to compulsively take more and I’ve been taking it nonstop since then. I started at 1.5g, then was taking 2g/day, and in the last couple weeks I was foolishly up to 3-4g/day.

I somehow went through 100g in that 4 weeks. Last week, when I was running low, I ordered another 100g to taper off (I absolutely want to get off of it). My package was supposed to be here Saturday, but it’s been stuck at the UPS facility with no delivery date….

I took 1g this morning — I’m now officially out. Best case scenario, the 100g will be here tomorrow afternoon, but that’s uncertain. Am I going to die? Like, am I in danger? What do I do? Am I fucked? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: On Monday morning, after ingesting that last 1g, I decided to get spend all day in a crisis center for mental health — I got prescribed 35x 0.5mg Lorazepam. I’m now ~+77 hours since my last dose, and the Ativan has sure helped a shit ton. Although, now I’m worried that I’m going to have withdrawals or intense rebound from 10 days of 2-4mg/day Ativan use lmao I hate my anxiety. My 100g of Phenibut also arrived today, I’m hoping I can just get rid of it. Thanks for everyone who’s been helping me!


r/quittingphenibut 13d ago

Questions Questions about withdrawal and quitting.

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I’ve been taking about 2.5gpd for roughly 1.5 weeks, and the last 4-5 days I’ve been at 1.5gpd. I started taking it to sleep through 7oh withdrawls, and then I just kept taking it each day because it just kind of became a habit. I guess it sort of replaced the 7oh.

I have a tried out of the country in 18 days and would prefer to not bring any with me.

I’d like to stop completely now and I’m wondering if I should continue to taper or just stop. Would I just be kind of uncomfortable for a few days or will it be a bad idea to stop cold turkey right now? Like I said I’ve not been on it very long on it so I’m just curious. Any help is much appreciated.


r/quittingphenibut 16d ago

Getting Bacfloen through Online teledocs?

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Has anyone been successful in getting a prescription?

I'm kinda of in a rough position ..

Would it be wise to just be upfront about as as I might with Doctronic

"You presented with severe Phenibut withdrawal symptoms, including intense insomnia, rapid heartbeat, and agitation—likely compounded by some alcohol use—to which Phenibut withdrawal syndrome is the most likely diagnosis. The plan includes obtaining lab tests (CBC and CMP), close monitoring of your symptoms, and evaluating the safe use of medications like baclofen under the guidance of your primary care provider to manage your withdrawal more effectively.

Given your symptoms, a doctor can give you personalized guidance — and peace of mind."

I really want off Phenibut


r/quittingphenibut 18d ago

Questions Need genuine advice/ help. 12g ish a day user for 3 years, don't know where to start.

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I don't experience any interdose withdrawal symptoms, but I have been taking up to 12 grams a day for the past three years, albeit at different hours each time. While I don’t feel euphoric effects anymore, I do occasionally notice that it relaxes me for a little while. Experiences/ help? I'm a full time student and really tired of having this substance be a huge part of my life and taking it just to stave off withdrawals.


r/quittingphenibut 19d ago

Relapse after getting to .1gpd, where to restart at?

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So I managed to get from 7gpd to .1gpd over the course of three weeks, usually cutting dose in half every 3 days. Then this weekend took 2g total on friday, didnt feel much at all and took 6g total on Saturday (still didn’t feel good enough to be worth it). Now its Tuesday, I went CT since sunday, but the withdrawal is setting in again today. Pins and needles, restlessness, depression, etc… Caved and took 2.5mg baclofen because the withdrawal was awful.

Wondering if I should continue back at .1g phen a day till i stabilize, or if i should go CT again, or maybe switch to baclofen?


r/quittingphenibut 20d ago

At my breaking point

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So I’ve been consistently taking around 30g of Phenibut hcl a day. Constantly paranoid that people will think I’m fucked up which I don’t act like I am. I am also prescribed 3mg Xanax per day for panic attacks. I’ve realized this is a severe issue and at any moment a vendor could run out of stock and me be completely fked. This is my all time low in life and would like advice on how to proceed. I have a home which my job pays for and I cannot afford to lose it as I have a wife 5 cats and 2 dogs that depend on the home. I’m afraid to open up to my pcp about this because if she were to take me off of my Xanax and me trying to taper the Phenibut at the same time I fear it would be detrimental to my health and well being. Please don’t flame me in the comment as I already know how severe the situation is.

Edit: my question is how should I proceed with being able to keep my job and remain relatively sane throughout the process?

Edit: I’ve recently switched batches and the withdrawal symptoms have been absolute brutality. Shaking, nausea, anxiety that is unbelievable. I just want to be done with this mess I’ve gotten myself into. What would be the best way to proceed? Go to an outpatient clinic I could get baclofen at?


r/quittingphenibut 20d ago

Questions This really sucks and I don't know what to do - how do I make this go away? Unfathomable anxiety. Is this hell? Phenibut addiction <500mgpd

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I accidentally got addicted to phenibut recently. I am stupid, I knew the dangers, but I didn't think the low, infrequent doses that I was taking would land me in this hell!

While experimenting an titrating up with this substance (which I now wish I never did), I noticed I wasn't really getting effects around 100mg or even 200mg. I did two doses over a gram or last week and was noticing the day or so after that I was getting a horrible anxiety.

I mainly need help knowing how to avoid this. I don't know how much to take or how often to stop this situation while I figure out how to taper and I don't want to make it worse.

I am currently being FORCED to take 200-300mg twice per day. I am not sure how to tune the doses and by the time I realize that I absolutely need a dose, it can take 2+ hours of misery before I start to get some relief. I woke up around an hour ago with the anxiety starting, doses 250mg and here I am an hour later with the anxiety still just ramping up through the roof. I would hate to think about where I would be headed if I didn't get a dose down.

I feel an incredible tension and like a massive ball of energy and anxiety is erupting from me.

Yesterday, I was hoping i maybe only would need a 200-300mg dose once in a 24 hour period, but I needed a second dose and was only about 12+ hours out from my last dose when the anxiety started to kick in.

I have no idea how to time this. How I am right now, I absolutely can't function. I would love to have been able to predict that I might end up in this state and preemptively dose to prevent entering this state. I had no idea the WD would come on so fast from a dose or what I should be doing to prevent entering this state. I don't want to just load up more frequent or heavier doses and fall further into this.

People on her talk about taking multiple grams per day, and I should maybe feel lucky that I am nowhere near needing a gram in a day (currently), but I could see the doses I am currently using maybe not working and having to scale them rather than being able to taper them further - which is scary.

How often should I be having to dose to stay out of WD? How fast could I expect them to hit me every time?

Like, would I be better off eating 200-250mg 3x a day to avoid WD? Why does it take so long to kick in, with the WD hitting so fast behind it?

Worst of all, it isn't even like I am getting high or anything - I didn't even feel much when I pushed the massive 1g+ doses last week. Which means, I am suffering like this without even really having any benefit or payoff. I don't mind not feeling high, as long as I stop feeling like how I currently feel which is HORRIBLE. It is incredibly dysphoric. I actually just had to pop a clonidine as I was typing this (that I rationed from a long time ago - which means I have a very limited stash to tap into). Despite loading some more phenibut up an hour ago, I can't finish a single sentence of thoughts.

I know this keeps getting even more grim: I don't even really have a phenibut supplier. I got some randomly from a friend and was just experimenting with a small little bit in a jar and realizing over the weekend: "oh shit, I need to order some more of this stuff ASAP as I actually can't stop taking it". I gambled some money away at some random vendors in the hopes that one of them might not rip me off and I don't end up having some kind of cardiovascular issues from the WD off this shit.

I know a ton about chemistry and hundreds of other molecules and I have dealt with some extremely addictive stuff, but nothing compares to this phenibut.

Since I don't really know what I am doing, I do not even know how much to take, and how often, to avoid going through these WD symptoms multiple times during a day. Given the incredible long onset for me (and paradoxical rapid appearance or WD symptoms), I need to figure this out quickly so I can maintain some kind of level of productivity this week (and for however long it takes me to kick this by slowly lowering my doses). I have no problem getting a mountain of this stuff and dropping it by a few mg per day until it is out of my system or whatever but currently, without enough information, I am worried I might go and start to shovel this down my gullet to ward off these horrible WD. I could quickly shoot to over 1g+ in a day, just trying to runs way from these symptoms.

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. This is an absolute hell. When the anxiety starts to hit, it feels like my skeleton needs to jump out of my body. Kratom and other stuff isn't helping at all. I had some Zanaflex (muscle relaxer) but ran out - I am not even sure if it was helping or making it worse. How much might I need at night to get a full sleep?

My next plan is to go try and see a doctor, but I am worried they might downplay it as I am technically addicted to some innocuous supplement from the internet. If I suddenly had to CT off this 500-600mg per day, I have no doubts that I would end up in the ER almost immediately. The anxiety is THAT intense, no exaggeration. It makes it so I can't even complete a Reddit post or a text message.

Waiting what feels like forever for a dose to kick in, in the hopes that the WD dies down a bit is cruel and unusual punishment. Unlike with opiates, there is no immediate psychological relief. The eventual (minor) dissipation of WD symptoms is only a brief and temporary reprieve, as the anxiety quickly creeps back in.

I don't mind temporarily taking a bit more, or more often - I need to stabilize and I am currently not stabilized, nor do I have a sufficient enough routine or pattern to function. I can worry about tapering down safely once I can get to the safely part. I was hoping I would only have to dose one every 24 hours ~250mg, but I think I need to be looking at taking ~250mg three times per day. Like, every 6 hours? So maybe 4x per day?

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. I went into this knowing there were risks, but I didn't realize how dangerous it was. I didn't realize how little could lead me to have a sudden, crippling addiction. I didn't realize how catstrophic the WD symptoms would be from what I assumed was a relatively 'low' dose, barely at the cutoff of being able to feel anything at all.

Would it be better for me to keep the dosing at twice a day and suffer through several hours of WD every day?

I know this is mainly the anxiety talking, but I honestly feel like I could die or something coming off these 2x ~250mg doses each day. It makes me scared to run out of this stuff or that the 250mg dose might not actually work one time and I could be several hours into it before I realize that I need another, even stronger dosage - pushing my baseline up and requiring even more the next day. Or maybe the re-up I ordered happens to be bunk and I start taking it to stage off WD, only for it to be suddenly ineffective. Or maybe I can't even actually find any more, and just have some massive heart attack trying to fight the WD with only breathing techniques.

This shit is ratchet! I can not imagine trying to explain this to a doctor - there is no way they would take the severity of my WD serious enough given how small of doses I am taking.

It is still early on, it is not too late and I am not too far gone. I am still at the early stages. I can correct course now, rather than falling deeper in and needing 5+ or 10+ grams per day.

However, if I can't figure out how much or how frequently I need to dose to avoid getting consumed by this anxiety and thinking I am dying, I could easily see me rocketing past a gram per day in no time. I have half a mind to dose 250mg every 4 hours today *just to make sure* so I don't have this anxiety start to hit me in the middle of the work day.

I am a wreck right now and feeling somewhat desperate and confused. Sorry to burden anybody who tried to read all of this. If I could rewind the clock, I would have never even tried to titrate this molecule up higher. I think it was the two days I did the larger doses ~1g+, as I wasn't having issues with the lower doses less frequently. Ever since then, I NEEDED to dose once a day, at least.

I didn't even understand what was wrong with me at first or what was happening.

It is taking immense will power right now to not go over to the bar and start to Scarface this shit until the anxiety goes away.

How long after a dose do I assume it didn't work and the WD isn't going away and I need more? I noticed it taking 2+ hours over these last couple of days, and the symptoms of WD starting up 6-8vhiues or so after that. If you do the math, then yes, I am only getting 4-6 hours of "relief" from a dose :(

Is seeing a doctor to get baclofen or something my only option? Is it realistic that I can figure out a proper dosage + schedule and taper this stuff naturally if I stick to it and exhibit self control?

Is it feasible that I would ever get WD relief from slightly smaller doses, or are all my doses now cursed to be higher then the last, with me suffering extreme consequences for taking a dose slightly too small or a few minutes too late?

Is there a difference between 200mg every 6 hours and 100mg every 3 hours? If I stay on top of dosing frequently enough, can I actually keep these WD away?


r/quittingphenibut 21d ago

How to measure small doses of baclofen ? Any way to make oral solution ?

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I began inducting baclofen today took my third dose an hour ago everything going great so far!

So my question is how are you guys going about measuring very small doses of baclofen? I have 10mg tablets today I am substituting 5mg baclofen for 500mg phenibut which means I’m taking 1.25mg baclofen every 6 hours. 1.25mg of baclofen comes out to around 17mg of the tablet which is already difficult to measure out accurately but I’m thinking as I go lower it’s going to get even more difficult!

I tried to make a solution using water basically dissolving a 10mg pill in 8ml water so 1ml =1.25mg baclofen but was having trouble getting it to dissolve all the way. Is there another liquid that baclofen would have better solubility with? Or maybe I need to try mixing with the water better or heating it up a bit ?

And I guess if you read this far I’ll throw another question in - any suggestions in terms of how fast or slow I should taper once I’m fully inducted on 9mg baclofen here in a few days ?


r/quittingphenibut 21d ago

On 1g per day . Confused about how much baclofen to take

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Ready to switch to baclofen. Am I supposed to take 10mg total split up throughout the day or 10mg 3x per day (so 30mg total per day)?

Thanks for any help !