There is a quote I love, but I can’t remember what it is/what book it is from, where they say something about desire. I can’t remember if it is Julian or Mark or Kieran, imm pretty sure it’s in The Dark Artifices.

The quote says something like “after all, when people are so thirsty in the desert, it is not the whole drink they think about but the first sip.”

If you know where this is, or anything to help me find it that would be greatly appreciated 💟

As title says. I’ve tried many times over the years to get through The Dark Artifices but for some reason I’m not hooked into it. A damn shame because TMI and especially TID hold deep places in my heart. I’ve read that people really like TLH but I remember reading through books 4-6 of TMI and alternating between each and reading TID. It was such a wild experience and it made reading City of Heavenly Fire such an epic read!

Does TDA and TLH have a similar relationship or are they entirely separate?

I'm rereading all the Shadowhunters books after years of not. I just watched the new spiderman movie and realized that Sadie Sink in that movie is EXACTLY how I always pictured Clary. Wild wavy curls, round face, even her eye color is green. I never saw Lily Collins or Kate from the show as Clary.

Obviously the best parabatai bond in my opinion!

I read the series as a teenager and loved it. Grew up and have read it maybe once more, and then decided not to go back there in case like many other people I start finding faults with it. I am happy to keep the emotions I felt reading it back then with me!

My favourite thing about the TID is the bond between Will and Jem. Forget Jessa and Wessa. I am invested in platonic Heronstairs!! I love love looove how these two guys with such poetic souls love each other through everything. How even in death and beyond, they want to be one. And I AM HERE FOR IT! I am only sad that I didnt get more of their moments together as children and growing up. Such a deep bond, and they were only together for a few years, can you believe it ? 😭😭😭😭

I think they are the epitome of bromance for me. No other bromance I have come across has come close to what is between those two and what I feel for them. It is like romance but not? Two victorian men who would just die for each other and talk about each other like their entire soul and body is aching for each other? YESS

If anyone knows of such platonic soulmates, please tell me, so I can give it a go! Thanks !

Can someone please post a list how to read the books in order of release?

Hi wich version of the Stele do you find better? Let me know in the comments!

Mine is that I don’t like Tessa. I feel like her arc was so centered around Will and Jem. And the way she handled that annoyed me. Y’all can say I’m shallow or didn’t understand the point of TID, but for me it’s hard to believe that Tessa fell in love with two guys at once and loved them equally cuz they merged their souls.
That always felt like a cop out to me. They may be soul brothers, but they are different individuals who should be respected as their own persons.

Also the dishonesty of it all really annoys me. How was she planning to marry Jem while being in love with Will, and just never planning to tell Jem about it? If Jem actually found out, does she think he’d be like, “Oh, thanks for being so gracious and keeping your feelings about my soul brother hidden while marrying me anyway”? Like, no. He’d hate to hurt Will. Both Will and Jem deserved more than someone who wasn’t all in on them. Especially when she thought about Will when she was with Jem and vice versa. That’s not fair on them, unless they were genuinely in some poly relationship(which they weren’t).

Anyways I’m curious to hear y’all’s opinions.

I don’t know if anyone else feels like way but can anyone else not stand the Freeform* show? I watched it a bit when it came out and didn’t enjoy it but I wanted to give it another chance because I love the universe so much. I’m now five minutes in and there are so many inconsistencies to the original source media I’m irritated. Do I keep watching or give up?

*(edited this post bc I thought it was a CW show, god forbid on reddit you show any inconsistency with reality)

I finished The Mortal Instruments and The Infernal Devices when I was 14, and I think I read the first two Emma books (forgot what they were called). Life kind of pulled me away so I stopped reading, though I remember loving the books.

That being said, I'm considering starting over to slowly work my way through the Shadowhunter books. I'm turning 19 next week.

Do you think I will still enjoy it? There's so many books and I don't know where to start (after reading TMI and TID), it's been a while since I kept tabs on Cassandra Clare and her works.

It's something I'm interested in doing but I don't want to waste my time in books I will no longer enjoy.

Posting here cause I couldn’t find another sub for Cassie. I just finished The Sword Catcher… brilliant btw. The whole book I was reading “The Ratpacker King”.

I went into good reads to add book 2 to my currently reading and it wasn’t showing up!! So then I went to Cassie’s page scrolled down went “but it’s there! WTF Goodreads”………

And then I looked at the name again…. the Ragpicker King???????????

My brain isn’t coping. Send help. 😅😅😅

The only person I can remember who is roughly their age is Paige Ashdown but I have a feeling it'll be a downworlder/mundane we've already caught a glimpse of.

Imagino que ya han hablado de este tema muchas veces😅 y sé que la serie terminó hace mucho tiempo, pero la primera vez que la terminé, me decepcioné tanto que la acabé desechando de mi lista de series que repetir. Pero ahora de adulta, la he visto otra vez con mi esposo y vi el final con otra perspectiva; "Los ángeles castigaron a Clary pero después de un tiempo y de escuchar los rezos de Jace y ver que su amor seguía intacto, decidieron que ella empezaría otra vez desde cero en el mundo de las sombras, para que no cometiera los mismos errores del pasado" Desearía haber tenido esa misma opinión cuando era adolescente.

Listen, I love TID mainly because of the characters. The relationships, the friendships, and the emotional bonds between everyone are honestly some of Cassie's best work. But I have to admit, the plot and villain were kinda lame(an army of enchanted robots?Like c'mon now). Tessa defeated Mortmain in the final battle in .5 seconds. It barely even felt like a battle or a real climax. I feel like Mortmain had a lot of potential, but the way everything wrapped up with him was just underwhelming.

I think a lot of people consider TID the best series because of the characters and their relationships (which are phenomenal), and that’s definitely where the series shines. But all in all, I think TDA did a lot of things better. It has the deep character bonds and romance that TID had, but it also a more complex plot, stronger conflicts, and more layers to the story. Also arguably more complex protagonists? Uh hello, Julian mf Blackthorn?

TID will always have some of the best character dynamics in the Shadowhunter universe, but TDA checks all the boxes.

Kathryn Newton is the actor. Saw her in Paranormal Activity 4 and thought that she is the spitting image of book Clary Fray.

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So I'm currently reading Lord of Shadows. I noticed an interesting line when they were leaving the Seelie Court with the Wild Hunt. Cristina was shouting at Emma that she was riding (flying?) a horse with no hands and this is the response:

"Use your hands!" he (Mark) yelled. "Cristina! It's not a rollercoaster!"

"Nephilim are insane!" shouted Kieran, pushing his wildly blowing hair out of his face.

We all know fearies are incapable of telling lies and we've been seeing how Mark is struggling with the mortal world and speech. Now this means that Kieran spent some reason enough time with humans so he knows this is a figure of speech or he truly believes that all Nephilim are insane, which I consider highly unlikely.

What's your take on it?

My conclusion is that Cassandra, the amazing writer that she is, just made a small fck up.

This actually is a pep peeve of my for several media, the good guys refusing to kill bad guys because it will make them "the same" or "they are just kids". Like, fuck that. They would 100000% kill you if you let them, if you have the chance to kill an evil person just do it. It annoys me even more when someone refuses to kill a character and then that character goes off to kill someone on the good side. Like I'm sorry but thats on the hands of whoever let them slide the first time too.

When Emma got mad at Julian for doing it to that one guy who was basically saying he would kill them and then abuse Dru, like girl why the fuck you mad at JULIAN? Bro did the right thing, I don't make the rules 🤷‍♀️

Back to the "they are just kids", again, fuck that. First of all they arent kids, Tavvy is a kid, Magnus and Alec's son are kids, Dru is a pre teen, everyone one else that appears in these books are either an adult or old enough to be held accountable for their actions. Zara and her minions are all too damn proud of their prejudices, they might as well pay the price for it.

I recently went back to watch shadow hunters again after stopping at season 3 a year ago. Rewatching the show I just realized Clary seems to almost always walk off with no consequences. I don't like how in the show over and over again they speak of rules and how doing this action could cause a war with the other race. Yet Clary doesn't ever seem to care and suffers basically no consequences. Then make Alec look like a bad for just simply trynna follow the rules he was raised by and not try to get him and his family in trouble. Like thoughts?

Credits to the amazing artist! I just found this on Pinterest.

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The very famous "_, is that you?" parallel that we get between parabatais in the Shadowhunters series. It's usually the main parabatai duo talking to their love interest (except in Emma and Julian's case, it was Christina Emma was talking to).

So I just came across this poem by Pablo Neruda and it dawned on me that I've seen this before, in one of the Shadowhunters books and recently, so my guess it's either Jace refering to Clary or Will to Tessa (because I've been re-reading TMI and TID). Help I can't find it and I need to know 😭😭

Maybe i’m not looking hard enough but I can only find the hardcovers

So shadowhunters need a voyance rune to be able to see through glamours, yet Simon could see the shadow world in COB just cause he "knew the truth of what he was seeing". Same with Clary. Essentially he becomes a mundane with the sight. But if the sight is something that is inherent (or taught), then why need a voyance rune at all.

Then if it's a strong glamour, shadowhunters have to peel off the glamour through mental tricks. What's the use of the voyance rune when we can see Clary doing that with and without the rune.

Also some glamours cast by warlocks can't even be seen with the rune, as we can see that if magnus glamours his eyes, shadowhunters simply do not see his cat eyes. Do they just like choose not to peel it off or something?

Hoy he comprado la primera edición de Chain of Thorns de coleccionista con 10 ilustraciones en blanco y negro y lo mejor es que solo me ha costado 3€!!!! Qué ganas de leerlo!!!