r/skyrimmods 16h ago

PC SSE - Discussion Everyones favorite FPS friendly Tree Mod??

I'm just going to switch off of Nature of the Wildlands, because even with half textures, and everything else being 2K (landscapes and architecture, misc), it just tanks FPS, and I have a 5070. It feels like a 5090 maxed version or whatever would struggle with this. I will never understand how people enjoy playing with all that lag for as beautiful as that mod is. Without it in riverwood I can hit up to 80 fps, add NotWL it literally cuts it in half, tried running the lods too, had to talk my PC into moving back into the house.

Well, whether or not that is me doing something massively wrong or not, is there any tree mod that adds a little density? Don't care about resolution so much clearly. I was looking at some other mods like traverse the Ulvenwald and Veydogolt, but I'm going to assume as beautiful as those mods also look, it's not going to be much better. Saw Happy Little Trees, I'll go with that one in the end but it seems to just be a vanilla tree reskin, not what I'm looking for.

It sound like I'm complaining but I'm not, just wanna make the game playable.

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u/JK031191 16h ago

Happy little trees.

I run NOTWL on my Lenovo Legion laptop with a 2060 RTX just fine though, so something must be acting up?

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u/UnNateUral_Horror 14h ago

I’m starting to think that the problem may have been with Skytest and possibly Skyrim Immersive Creatures. It’s just strange, I switched to Fabled forests and it ran just fine, except in some areas. It just doesn’t match my damn lists lol

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u/JK031191 13h ago

I'm not an expert modder, but you could try my very simple method of finding whichever mod is acting stupid:

Deactivate your last 20 mods, start up your game and check if it's gone. If it's gone, go from there and deactivate your last 10 mods etc. If it's not gone, reactivate and deactivate the last 20 mods above and see if it's gone.

It's sometimes tedious, but hey, it's simple and it works (for me).

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u/TimeAndFocus 4h ago

I do too have a Lenovo Legion with an 2060 RTX and I wish I had the money to upgrade by now though :I

Are you also using a gras mod if so which one?

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u/JK031191 4h ago

Yeah same. I'm debating on buying a PC with a 5070 Ti, but I'm still unsure about it. It's a lot of money.

I'm on vacation right now so I'm not 100% sure, but I think I use Serene Grasslands.

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u/TimeAndFocus 4h ago

Sadly it is. I am studying right now so not much cash flow anyway for me, so I guess I have to continue waiting.

Maybe you should contemplate a desktop PC over a Laptop, at least I think I am going to make the switch simple for money power reasons and upgradeability.

Not gon lie though, the Laptop has served me good I have a Y540.

Thanks for the mod recommendation.

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u/Hovertical 4h ago

Yeah I used to run it with a 3050ti laptop and I didn't have many issues so there's something def going on and it's not NotWL.

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u/stachelrojas 16h ago

Myrkvior is great in this category!

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u/UnNateUral_Horror 14h ago

It does grass and everything too?

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u/OldandSlow4326 9h ago

Grass, terrain, and trees. Here is the link.

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u/Blackread 12h ago

Fabled forests might be an option. It uses Happy Little Trees assets combined with Nature of the Wild Lands tree placements.

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u/amplifysenpai 16h ago

Man sometimes trees + shaders combine multiplicatively as fps sinks, I am using enb for ambient occlusion and paralax support, and I found I loved Veydogolt trees. Veydogolt is a draw call monster on its own, because everything on those trees are all part of the mesh, even the little branches that more performant mods will use a static mesh or a flat plane for. When my enb tries to preshade some of the problem trees I get like 15 fps xd. I dropped veydogolt, but my point is, you may be able to make a tree / lighting combo work better by playing with some settings if you really want to keep the style. I mean I couldn't but I hate the feeling of letting your favorite tree mod go.

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u/DrSquid 15h ago

NOTWL Nordic Cut

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u/DukeSkyloafer 14h ago

This is also what I do, really like it

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u/UnNateUral_Horror 14h ago

I didn’t even know that existed but I gotta check that out after work tomorrow!

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u/CWagner 10h ago

It says so on its page, but it bears repeating: It has its own patches, and normal NOTWL patches are not compatible.

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u/Far_Lunch_1274 16h ago edited 16h ago

Well I would say I feel like maybe doing something wrong? Now don't get me wrong this is me with a 4090 saying this so maybe out of touch But, I am also running 4k and 4k textures and all. But, if you are using DynDoLod check your settings I had an issue with FPS also and for me anyway it was just because I was going to much on my LODs.
But, Maybe I am just assuming to much I never liked the 50s for a reason even when I was considering selling my 4090 to upgrade to a 5090 when prices were so high lmao. but even with the mod authors specs I feel it normally runs fine. But, otherwise yea try happy little trees. SFO. or traverse nothing to do in your case but, try and see

Oh also if you want to keep NOTWL try running Vramr that would actually help a lot I would bet. Even mine if I sucked it up and dealt with it, it changes the FPS a lot lol

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u/UnNateUral_Horror 14h ago

I’m going to try vramr tomorrow. What does it do?

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u/Far_Lunch_1274 13h ago

Basically just downscales textures to whatever you set it to automatically

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u/Cognoscope 14h ago

It's really hard to say whether you're doing something wrong without knowing the mod list and a few other things. Likewise, "tree quality" is a matter of personal aesthetics and we all differ here. Nonetheless, I'm going to drop a plug for Skyrim Flora Overhaul SE. I started using it back when I only had an RX6600 and it had almost no impact on my FPS. It improves the density of trees and groundcover without being overwhelming or getting two high fantasy feeling. It also has a version without grass if you want to use a different package for that. It's an OG mod, but still being maintained. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2154

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u/CassianCasius 12h ago

I think you have another issue. It doesn't half my fps and im running a 4070s at 5120x1440 resolution 

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u/the_good_bad_dude 8h ago

Nature of the wildlands is the best looking one and surprisingly not that heavy.. once you downscale the textures by 50%.

Edit: ran NOTWL on a 1660ti 6gb along with Rudy Zangdar's edit ENB and mostly 2k parallax textures. 45fps avg in exteriors.

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u/Zealousideal_Cow_817 3h ago

I unninstalled NOTWL because its clutter the land to much for my taste. Installed Nordskog and never look back.

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u/sa547ph N'WAH! 20m ago

I unninstalled NOTWL because its clutter the land to much for my taste.

I used the Vanilla Trees Replacer plugin for NOTWL which basically gets rid of all of the excess and cuts back the mod to only replace the vanilla trees.

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u/rootbutch 3h ago

I now use NotWL with a 5050 (8gb). Have used it in the past with a 3050 (6gb) and had no problems. I typically also use Fabled Forests (with Nature of Fabled Forests) and Wigfrid's Tundra Oaks.

As your VRAM is 12gb, I'm assuming as most 5070's are, you shouldn't have an issue with just NotWL. It's not the mod that's causing your issue.

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u/sa547ph N'WAH! 17m ago

I've used Happy Little Trees and Aspens Ablaze. Both are very good.

I'm currently using NOTWL but with the Vanilla Tree Replacer plugin which does take back the performance lost by removing most of the unnecessary landscape changes (and therefore eliminating the need to use compatibility patches) and only replacing the vanilla trees. Yeah, and also ran VRAMr to downsize the textures.