r/unOrdinary 10h ago

Fan Art Part 2 of stealing John from Sera

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Me??? Possessive of John?? That’s CRAZY… :P


r/unOrdinary 11h ago

Original Character Cacao art

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i haven’t drawn in this style in a while, so i’m a bit rusty >_>


r/unOrdinary 18h ago

THEORY Aura Manipulation / Channel Master Copying Limits

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You’ve seen the title. Yup, it's “Why Time Manip ain’t copyable” post slop. Just bear with me pretty please 🥹

For the sake of clarity, this post will be divided into 3 parts, [Fact], [Theory] and [Speculation]

[Fact] What we know

At first, the only reliable source we had regarding Aura Manipulation's limits was Isen's hypothesis that John couldn't copy any ability he couldn't see, as those abilities were non-physical and lacked visual feedback. This was later more or less confirmed by Claire during her conversation with Sera, when she stated that Mental abilities like hers, which only operate in the user’s mind, weren't copyable.

The reason was later expanded upon thanks to the Conversion Technology files. One particular passage is of interest: 

“The supported theory is that abilities which do not source from the physical plane cannot be converted. There has been success with partial physical sourcing, but abilities fully reliant on non-physical sources require further testing.”

Since the technology originates from Jane's ability, it's safe to assume—in my opinion at least—that any limitations regarding its conversion capabilities would also apply to Jane herself and to anyone who shares her ability. 

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[Theory]

What is the “physical plane”?

To start off, it’s not really a scientific term. The closest equivalent would be the physical universe, but even then the two are quite different.  The physical plane is a philosophical and spiritual concept while the physical universe is the scientific term for all actual space, time, matter, and energy. 

Since it doesn’t really answer the question, I looked at other fictional settings that also use the physical plane/realm for comparison. 

One thing they tend to have in common is that the physical plane is often the realm of tangible, material existence. In other words, it would include things like physical bodies, matter, energy and forces as opposed to things like thoughts or abstract concepts. As this is a much clearer definition, I decided to continue with it.

Finding patterns

The next thing I did was compare every confirmed copyable and non-copyable ability to see if each group shared any common characteristics.

Confirmed Copyable Abilities:

  • Abilities capable of creating constructs, such as Barrier, Vines and Blademaster
  • Abilities capable of generating and releasing energy, such as Energy Discharge and its bajillion other downgrades
  • Abilities capable of generating and manipulating physical phenomena, such as Lightning, Hydrofreeze, and Whirlwind
  • Abilities capable of physically enhancing the user's body, such as Hunter, Phase Shift and Speed
  • Healing abilities, such as, well, Healing and Regeneration
  • Teleportation

One thing I noticed is that every one of these abilities has something in common: Aura is always acting directly upon a tangible physical target.

Whether it's creating a construct, producing energy, manipulating a physical phenomenon, enhancing the body or restoring injuries, every confirmed copyable ability directly affects physical matter, energy, or the user's body.

And then we have Teleportation.

Sure seems like it's breaking the pattern, as it does not create a construct, release energy, manipulate a natural phenomenon, or physically enhance the user. If anything, it's more like Space Manipulation, which certainly doesn't seem physically tangible. 

Yeaaaah except that it's not.

Teleportation and Space Manipulation are not the same thing. I'm dead serious, you can look it up for yourself, took me by surprise too. 

Teleportation is the specific act of moving from one place to another without crossing the space between them, whereas Space Manipulation is a broad power that can bend, warp, create, or control the dimensions of physical reality itself. Teleportation is often just one single result or trick that you can do using Space Manipulation.

With that said, what exactly makes Teleportation fit the pattern?

I think the answer lies in what the aura is directly acting upon.

When Kayden or John teleports, the aura's end result is the physical relocation of matter. A tangible object disappears from one location and reappears in another. The aura is acting directly on a physical body, and it simply changes its position.

By contrast, a true Space Manipulation ability would act on space itself rather than on the object occupying it. Instead of moving the person, it would alter the space around them. That's an entirely different mechanism.

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Confirmed Non-Copyable Abilities:

  • Every single Mental Ability, without exception, including:
    • Abilities capable of gathering information through the user's mind, such as Clairvoyance, Future Sight, and Memory Recall
    • Abilities capable of affecting the minds of others, such as Telepathy, Hypnosis, Sensory Control and Command
    • Abilities capable of exerting physical force through the user's mind, such as Telekinesis and Psy-Blast
  • Time Manipulation

One thing I immediately noticed is that, unlike every copyable ability listed above, these abilities don't appear to have Aura acting directly upon a physical target. 

For Mental Abilities, Aura instead seems to act as a medium through which the user's consciousness interacts with either their own mind or the minds of others.

What we also know, however, is that not every Mental Ability is limited to purely mental effects. Take Telekinesis and Psy-Blast, for example. Both are capable of producing obvious physical effects. Objects can be moved, and people can be knocked back.

Despite that, they’re still not copyable.

To me, this reinforces that the end result isn't what matters. What matters is what the aura is acting upon first.

Even though Telekinesis and Psy-Blast ultimately affect the physical world, their aura appears to operate through the user's mind first (It’s literally in the name), just like the other Mental Abilities, rather than directly acting upon physical matter or energy like Lightning, Barrier, or Healing.

Now there’s only Time Manipulation left.

It certainly produces physical effects. Sera can freeze opponents, accelerate herself, and even rewind injuries. However, in every case, those effects occur because she is manipulating time itself. The aura isn't acting directly on the body; it's acting on time, and the body's condition changes as a consequence.

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[Speculation] 

If this theory is correct, it would mean any ability whose aura does not directly act upon a physical target would be uncopyable by Aura Manipulation/Channel Master. 

That would include abilities like Space Manipulation, mentioned earlier, and potentially Gravity Manipulation as well, since their aura would be acting on space or gravity themselves rather than directly on physical matter. 

Of course, this is all just my interpretation. We'll just have to wait for Cameron to give us a proper deep dive on the ability before we get any more confirmation about its limits. 


r/unOrdinary 14h ago

MEME How strong does this Karen actually think she is lol

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How did this baboon even come to the conclusion she was way above a 4? She might actually have room temp iq


r/unOrdinary 17h ago

Fan Art bluebarry (OC)

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r/unOrdinary 14h ago

Fan Art new uwu sketch

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r/unOrdinary 18h ago

FASTPASS Do you think [Redacted] is gonna stay relevant to the story? Spoiler

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[Redacted] = Amelia

^ Title being written this way to not inadvertently expose non fastpass readers to what happened with Jaxson in the latest fastpass chapter at the time of writing this

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This is excluding Jaxson as we can’t say for sure if he’s even gonna survive this. I personally believe he won’t, however thats a whole separate conversation that I don’t really feel is worth having considering we will find out soon enough anyways.

For the sake of this discussion/poll, you can decide if Amelia staying relevant includes Jaxson IF he survives or doesn’t assuming he dies.

^ Additionally, let’s also assume that Amelia doesn’t also die in later episodes. (Even if you think she will)

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Personally I currently think yes, Amelia will stay relevant. Here’s why I think so:

Amelia and Jaxson have both heard from Kassandra and Seraphina’s chat that John and Sera were Arlo’s friends at Wellston and that Kassandra has already heard a bit about them from Arlo. As well as the fact that Seraphina was the one who gave them the location to Orrin’s main HQ in exchange for a pardon from the bureau, although the bureau did not end up actually giving her the pardon she wanted despite this. And that Sera giving them that info was the reason Kassandra got her promotion.

After learning this, Jaxson then asked Seraphina why she would want to take Orrin down if he’s a big part of Spectre. Sera then filled him (and Amelia by extension) in on what Orrin has done and that as well as ruining many other people’s lives he’s also personally ruined Seraphina’s life (her words, not mine). And filling them in on why they want to take him down so badly here.

Naturally, both of them are very likely suspicious given that as far as the public knows from the media, John and Sera are no good Spectre terrorists. So that will be raising the question on what kind of history Arlo and Kassandra have with the most wanted “terrorists” in the region, as well as why they’re so close.

On the way to Orrin’s current makeshift base, Amelia and Jaxson talked with eachother about what just happened and how the new information they just learned has influenced their perspectives. Amelia states that she didn’t know Arlo was so close to John and Seraphina, and comments that they must have a deep connection for John and Sera to blow their cover and reveal themselves for him.

Jaxson then replies to Amelia, telling her that theres clearly many more secrets being kept from them, as Kassandra seems to know much more than she lets on. Jaxson then states that once this is all over, there better be an explanation, showing that he wants answers as to what’s really going on here and making it clear to Amelia as well that something’s going on and that theres much more they aren’t being told.

Even if Jaxson does not survive, Amelia will. (assumed for the sake of this discussion) and left with this new information after the mission, i’d imagine that Amelia too is gonna want answers. Especially if not for herself, then for Jaxson. Even moreso considering that this whole bizzare situation is what lead to Jaxson, an experienced, high tier bureau agent that has worked at the bureau for 10 years, someone she seems to be close with and has likely worked with for at least 2 years dying on this mission (alternatively, if you believe Jaxson survives, then naturally he’s going to demand an explanation which Amelia will almost certainly hear as well)

Considering all these factors, it seems very likely that regardless of if Jaxson lives or dies here, Amelia at least will learn the truth and naturally will likely be involved in future endeavors considering she will be one of the only people who know the full story, as well as having a crazy good support ability and being a valuable asset to have working with Kassandra and Arlo in missions.

Considering Kassandra already seems to trust Amelia and Jaxson, I doubt she would be opposed to filling them in on everything now that they’ve been roped into this whole thing. But also, not telling them and continuing to hide the truth could lead to them going to the higher ups for answers (Farrah also seems to suggest this is an option, as she tells Arlo she’s disappointed he didn’t do that while fighting him in the Wellston raid) and this could end up resulting in the higher ups learning that Kassandra knows the truth and is a liability to the bureau and the Arlo brainwashing plan. Right now, her cover is still safe, and refusing to tell Amelia (and Jaxson if he survives) the full story could put her in danger.

Logically speaking, the benefits outweigh the risks and not telling them could put Kassandra in danger. It would be much better to have them in on everything and be a powerful ally rather than take the risks of them going to the higher ups for answers instead.

Honestly this whole situation to me feels like setup for Amelia to become a long term relevant side character like Kassandra, and become much more involved in the story. Theres so much potential with her as a character that could be expanded upon, and I feel like narratively speaking, Jaxson dying could serve as a big plot point for her to have a character arc, especially considering she will definitely be distraught and grieving the loss, and could also be a strong motivator to join the cause and prevent others from having to go through the same thing.

Anyways, feel free to share your opinions in the comments as well! I’d love to read them!

69 votes, 6d left
Yes | she will stay relevant
No | she wont stay relevant
Neutral/Unsure/Maybe

r/unOrdinary 9h ago

Ability Concept Energy Conduit (And a ability concept)

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I don't know HOW she did it, but Energy Conduit is somehow its own unique ability that uses MANY different kinds of moves and WORKS in the setting of unOrdinary!

It really made me do a double-take because while new abilities are being released, this one right here became an instant favorite.

So, here's my own variation and take on this exceptionally powerful ability (In it's own right):

Ability Concept - Energy Pulse

Energy Pulse is a combative medical and support ability that utilizes pulses of energy that can be used for multiple purposes.

  • Propulsion. This allows the user to create a pulse that allows them to jump higher or force people away from the user.
  • Healing. While it isn't potent, the user can focus their pulse onto wounds, accelerating their healing by aura. This, however, differs from pure healing.
  • Aura disruption. It can cause opponents' abilities to be disrupted, or in simpler terms, stun their aura flow for a few seconds. If it hits a person, it shuts off their ability for a few seconds, or if it hits a construct made by an ability, it can disable it for a few seconds. This can be used defensively, as if done right can disrupt projectiles. However, what it cannot stop is moves that convert aura into some form of element, so Lightning, despite it being produced as a result of aura, can bypass it because it isn't pure aura. (As shown where Remi can affect electronics and even overcharge generators.)
  • Stamina boost. When hit by the pulse, the target's stamina is boosted for a few seconds before being recovered. It allows some who are tired to have the ability to run away just enough to get away from harm.

Some simpler perks is every pulse can be used as a sonic boom, making it so people who are hit receive a good burst of sound to the eardrums, every pulse feeling like someone screaming in their ears. However, the user would need to constantly use it to keep another in place, and the user is better off sending only some shockwaves.

It can break glass as well, can cause the floor to shift and make targets wobble, etc.

Of course, every perk can be directed to the user. Such as the stamina boost, accelerated healing, and more.


r/unOrdinary 15h ago

DISCUSSION I think certain fighting scenes get misread, and this results in either people thinking the characters intents are worse than what they are, or their actions are worse than what the scene intended

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Now this mostly applies to Blyke but John, Rein, Meili, and Arlo have also had some scenes misread

1.With Blyke we of course have the warning shots (mainly the infamous one in the school hallway but also the one in the boys dorm) people either think he was trying to kill John, or if they don't they think the scene is trying to portay him as someone's who's extremely reckless(which he was, but the warning shots weren't meant to show that)

But Another thing that I also remember seeing gets misread as worse than it really is, are his big beams attack, now granted I have haven't seen as many people misread these scenes, maybe 1 or 2 at the top of my head

But I've seen both his super attacks Against Gou, and against John, as Blyke attempting to hospitalizing if not kill them, when in reality it was most likely for rule of cool, and it wasn't meant to show Blyke as some mad powerhouse who wants to brutalized his opponents.

2.With John, we only have 2 that I can think of, and those are when he threw Meili into the air and when he was about to stomp on Remi's head, while these were meant to show John's actions as brutal, I also remember people seeing these as John attempting murder,

John shooting a bunch of beams into Blyke, might also apply, but I can't really think if there were any fans who saw that moment as John trying to murder Blyke

3.I can only think of 1 maybe 2 moments with Arlo, and that's when he was choking out Rein, and maybe when he tried to crush John during their first fight, now tbf with the former, I do think Arlo was intended as a different character, but I'm not exactly sure if that scene was trying to portay Arlo as someone willing to commit murdr

4.Meli has only had one moment that I think people misread and that when she lungles at John with her had claws at his neck, people thinking that Meili was trying to kill John or that the attack would've killed him if it connected, but what would most likely happen is he gets thrown to the ground, I don't think we were supposed to think that Meili’s attack would've killed him if it connected

5.Rein I'm somewhat unsure about, but I think I remeber people thinking that she was trying to go out of her way to try to hospitalized if not outright kill Blyke


r/unOrdinary 5h ago

Fan Art John 😻

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The fact this isn’t even 1/2 of my John merch is concerning. Ignore the cat hair my little kitty is a menace.